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This thread is about the internal SCUFF plate. This thread has nothing to do with the external KICK plate which has the DATSUN logo embossed.

In the recent thread by Astrohog http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=25416 there were some views traded but I moved this discussion here so as not to continue to hijack that thread.

My HS30 has a build date of 12/70. It came to me with aluminium scuff plates fitted. I am not the orginal owner.

Courtesy Nissan has emailed me confirming that the scuff plates they list http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...Code=76942-S30 are made of steel.

So this raises a few questions regarding my scuff plates that I am curious to expand further in an effort to find out where they came from. So if you can shed some light, I'd appreciate it. I'm not loosing sleep, just curious.

Either:

1. My car came with steel plates but has had them changed out to aluminium ones by the PO.

2. Did low VIN 240z's in either RH or LH drive guise come out with aluminium scuff plates from the factory?

3. Did 260z's or 280z's come out with aluminium plates?

I'll be ordering a set of the plates that Courtesy Nissan lists as MSA nor BD can match the price. Why their prices are so inflated is anyones guess. Maybe theirs are made out of aluminium:tapemouth ? That's why they are more expensive????? :tapemouth :tapemouth :tapemouth

So if you have a low VIN S30 of any variant, or have some ideas and can shed some light, please help a curious Kiwi out.

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Are you talking the black vinyl-clad piece that covers the door sill?

Yup, that's the scuff plate. Mine is just plain old polished aluminium and with the above posts confirming that early HLS30 models came in vinyl covered steel, it makes me think that mine are aftermarket or off a different car.

I've asked the same question on a HS30 forum and I'll update here accordingly.

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240ZnZ,

Thanks for your input and raising this interesting question! What caught my attention was your build date. My build date is 12/70 (HLS30 16896). Just curious, what is your vin# ? (Did I just Hijack your NEW non-hijack thread??)

hehe

Regards,

Astrohog

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240ZnZ,

Thanks for your input and raising this interesting question! What caught my attention was your build date. My build date is 12/70 (HLS30 16896). Just curious, what is your vin# ? (Did I just Hijack your NEW non-hijack thread??)

hehe

Regards,

Astrohog

You're welcome, I just didn't seem right to raid your thread. I have HS30-00352. You'll note that the L is missing meaning that it a right hand drive model. This just goes to show how few RHD models were released into the market when compared to LHD of the same build date.

MikeW,

I'll post a pic of it tonight if I can find them buried somewhere in the mess that goes with bare shell resto's (these cars sure have a lot of parts)

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You're welcome, I just didn't seem right to raid your thread. I have HS30-00352. You'll note that the L is missing meaning that it a right hand drive model. This just goes to show how few RHD models were released into the market when compared to LHD of the same build date.

MikeW,

So, did they manufacture the HS and HLS side-by-side in the same factory?

They sure seemed to crank 'em out (especially after 1970!!)

Astrohog

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For 2 simple turns on a steel sheet, It's too bad some one from here does'nt make a shitload of them and dip them in a plastic solution of some sort and sell them to any one who wants them on this site.

I figure that a complete encapsolation of black plastic would stop them from rusting any time soon. The adhesive used by Nissan is what caused the rust problems in the first place.

Unfortunately, My WIFE won't let me start on another project until the harness's, ZX plugs, switch services, and tail light upgrades have dwindled down to nothing. Not to mention the engine harness as well as dash and body harness's project that I've barely even started on.

Any one up for making these. Sorry, just me throwing ideas out there again. That's one of my major flaws, I think too much for my own damn good.:stupid:

Dave.

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What caught my attention was your build date. My build date is 12/70 (HLS30 16896). Just curious, what is your vin# ?
I have HS30-00352. You'll note that the L is missing meaning that it a right hand drive model. This just goes to show how few RHD models were released into the market when compared to LHD of the same build date.

Don't forget that the factory had made around 4500 RHD S30-series Z models other than the 'HS30' before the end of calendar year 1970. The '240Z' models were not the whole story............

But back to the thread subject:

Alan T - can you shed any light onto this?

Ha! You've got me scratching my head and my chin at the same time now.

When I was pulling my mid-1970 build 'Fairlady Z-L' apart, the scuff plates were nicely rusty - to the point where the vinyl covering was bubbling up and peeling off. I think they were the original fitment, and they were certainly steel.

I have a couple of pairs of new ones still in the packet ( I bought them several years ago in Japan ) but I can't for the life of me remember whether they are steel or alloy. I'll have a dig around in the garage and report back later. I do remember thinking that the new ones were nice and light in comparison to the rusty originals.

The RHD export model parts list shows that there was a supersession in May 1972:

*74932-E4100 PLATE - SCUFF ( up to 05-72 )

*74932-E4101 PLATE - SCUFF ( 06-72 on )

Japanese market parts list shows the former in use there too.

My LHD export parts list shows exactly the same numbers and dates - so I think all models got the same part during the same period of manufacture.

I see that there's just one part number for RH side and LH side until November 1973, when new individual numbers for RH and LH sides must mean that there was a detail change for the new models.

Alan T.

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In an effort to hopefully get us all on the same page here's a picture from my car. You will notice the aluminum "sill plate", which, in my case, says "Datsun". Courtesy calls this a kick plate. Inside of that is the "scuff plate" which Courtesy calls a "skuff plate". Mine is steel with a textured black vinyl glued to the top. The "scuff plate" has a hump on it which goes over the door weatherstrip. Normally there would be a thick piece of what I think is vinyl that goes under the "scuff plate" and is glued in place. This piece normally extends down to the floorboard. I obviously removed mine when I installed a full carpet kit. Finally, I included in the picture an original "scuff plate", upside down, which shows just how much it had rusted.

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Attached is a pic of the plates. The centre hole is offset to the left on both plates and the thickness is approximately the same as the sill kick plates.

The curve is formed via a series of four folds spaced at about every 10cm. The condition of them is "mangled", the camera flash makes them look far better than they are.

They could be off anything.

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