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$20,000 240z on Ebay..and rising


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Explain to me why you'd take a car with 15k miles and change the ignition and radiator so it wasn't stock. Are you planning to go add 30k miles? Why the need for a replacement distributor? When I saw this auction yesterday, something smelled fishy. I think I'll run the price up. :stupid:

Of course, I have been known to be cynical and sarcastic.

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Time out, before we go doing the smelly butt inspection on this vehicle:

Replacing the distributor on the early Z's was/ is a common "repair"/upgrade. Points are notorious for being hard to set properly (when was the last time you saw a dwell meter?) as well as for getting pitted, and changing the strength of the spark depending on how weak the spring on them is at higher rpm's.

The replacement of the radiator falls in line with trying to restore the vehicle after someone had added the overflow tank. The original radiator is only a two row, if I recall correctly, and also very difficult to obtain. Calling MSA (a recognized vendor of Datsun Z parts) may have led to someone on their staff or here pointing out that fact.

Given a choice between a very hard to find, inferior part over a superior part that is readily available....I know which way I would go. Now, if I were set on having a museum trailer queen......instead of a driveable car......I would opt for the original OEM item. However, the overflow tank points to the original radiator already having been worked/repaired/replaced.

Then again, as far as the asking price...it IS in New York. That alone says a LOT regarding the expectations of the seller and the rarity of the vehicle.

So before we denigrate it, and/or nit-pick it according to what WE would do if we could go back in time and buy it from the dealer, let's address the vehicle as it is now.

From the pictures it appears to be a very nice, well-maintained and desireable vehicle.

Hype about "lowest mileage", "only one", etc are just that HYPE.

2¢

Enrique

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I can't remember the owners name< i think Burt> but this car was bid on before all the way past either 23 or 26 k at one point and he decided he didn't want to sell. I agree about the lowest milage stuff but for everything else , I would prefer this to a factory restoration in some ways , I wouldn't be totally afraid to drive it. For the price I think 20k is a good almost a great deal. Alot depending on what you want to do with it and where you live again. Those of us who live in the salt states with putting it on the roads or by the ocean pay a dear price for older cars if they are local. But I still think it would be a 15k plus car anywhere.

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this car is not unknown and after it's third (mabye more) ebay auction; he just might let it go. all of what i read on the car in this auction is true. it was bought and cared for as stated and is certainly worth every penny the high bidder chooses to spend. i've spent enough time with this car and owner to remind me why we all invest in these cars. be it a skeletal parts car for $200.00 bucks or the unchallenged "lowest mileage 240z" for "$22,000.00 dollars."

dogburt is a very unique person and his love for the zcar is just a fullfilling as mine. i can't begin to "dog" anyone for the choices made modifying thier car even though i find it easy to be cynical about most cars including his, mine and the original design of " the most successfull line of sports cars ever produced ". bottom line for me is, if you've got the stank to buy more show cars than oj has aquittals then you can cut a hole in the roof and call it air conditioning.

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It's damn nice, but I'd rather pay $5000 - $6000 for a near perfect driver with a solid body and low mileage, then dump a couple thousand into a refresh, and drive the damn thing whenever I want and feel good about it. Oh wait, I already did that. :)

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Yea, this is Burt's car again. So how much do you wanna bet, CDavid? Will it actually sell? I see he has that "reserve not met" going again. I say lunch at Hooter's that it won't sell. If I loose, you have to say it's your birthday and dance on the table. If I win, I'll dance. I hope this car finds a good home.

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It's damn nice, but I'd rather pay $5000 - $6000 for a near perfect driver with a solid body and low mileage, then dump a couple thousand into a refresh, and drive the damn thing whenever I want and feel good about it. Oh wait, I already did that. :)

You have a good point.

However, that $5k to $6k estimate in the Rust Belt states would buy you a good fixer upper, but NOT a car in the condition that the pictures reflect.

Conversely, that same car in California, Arizona, New Mexico and other of the "arid" states would not fetch over 10-15k even with it's imputed rarity as to mileage and relatively modification free state.

Ed, 26th Z and various other members from the East part of the country can attest to how rare it is to find a Z without having serious rust for less than $5k. That same $5k vehicle in the East would likely be called a "parts car" in the West, and not sell for more than a grand. Now, take a car that would fetch $10k in the West and it will easily go to $15k or more in the East.

But this has been discussed just about every time a Z from the East gets sold on e-Bay. What those of us in the West would likely pass up, can be a gem of a find in the East. Conversely, if the East coast guys would pass up a given car then I'll almost guarantee that there isn't a West coast guy who would PAY for it.

I hope he gets the price he reserved for. It can only help ALL of our cars, whether in the U.S. or abroad.

Enrique

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Yea, this is Burt's car again. So how much do you wanna bet, CDavid? Will it actually sell? I see he has that "reserve not met" going again. I say lunch at Hooter's that it won't sell. If I loose, you have to say it's your birthday and dance on the table. If I win, I'll dance. I hope this car finds a good home.

LOL

Actually, if I might suggest:

If Chris loses, have CDavid choose which Hooter Honey dances, and if Chris loses then CDavid chooses.

Heck, if you can get a Hooter Honey up on the table......I'm in!!! And I won't mind who picks which Hooter Honey.

E

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this car deserves the best of homes. burt has provided a very worthy space amougnst his collection but if he is truley willing to give her up then i hope he gets 30k. if he gets his best bid from all the auctions and backs out then he should be banned from torturing us with his "need to validate the value" and from "basking in the bidding war of wannabe owners". if you see this burt, i will take you off my blocked email list so you may engage in a frothy debate.

if burt keeps it then let it go on tour.

as for you mr. wenzel, hooters called and the girls have nominated you for best dance atop a table. i could never follow one of your preformances and you know my most recent hooter meal would gladly be my last. hows about we go to ruth chris?

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Wow when you guys throw a party-dancing on tables, taking over steakhouses, When I was in highschool, A bunch of us in EYC got thrown out of shoneys once and all lined up to moon the manager! But wee never danced on tables...

Chris, do you realize Vicky is offering to fund the restoration of 27 if you will just get up and dance on a table-or would she expect more than that...

Will

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Hey Chris, I thought those were pictures of the party at Hooters Friday prior to the Saturday Z Fest this year??? Wonder how many of those guys thought "This is the guy that's going to be judging my Z car".

You're way to funny Chris. You look kinda like Dana Carvey in that one shot.

Vicky

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No, no Will the table dance was the best part of Z Fest!! It's become tradition whenever Chris shows up to any Z event. There must be a table present. Chris, he doesn't except cash, only Z parts. I'm gonna toss a couple OEM fenders at him during the next table dance. (of course I will not damage the fenders nor the dancer ROFL )

It's all in good fun!!

Vicky

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