Carl Beck

hummm.. Interesting point. The seller said: "I have a complete album of pictures taken during construction. Any specific questions you have, give me a call. 503-329-6600"... Perhaps a call would be in order... You could ask him about the parts used from the other cars... and/or the meaning of "construction"... I don't think the car "sold"... rather it went to its starting bid.. most likely put in by the seller {yes/no?}.. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi John: Does that transmission shift lever come up in the 70/71 or 72+ position in the transmission tunnel?? aaaand... how much delievered to your door? thanks, Carl B.

Hi Steve: The pictures don't show it - but - You Are Removing the engine and repainting the engine bay - RIGHT??? No sense in taking the whole car apart and not refinishing the engine bay... Right? FWIW, Carl B.

Really GREAT pictures Lowell!! Thanks for all your help at the Mitty and we'll see you at the ZCON.. regards, Carl B.

Hi Kats: I do not see a video at the links you Posted - is there another link that we have to hit to display a video? thanks, Carl B.

Hi Michael: Looks Great - but it should say 2010 BRE 270Z ;-) What software did you use to create it? Carl B.

Jim, my son Carl and I had "planned" to leave Clearwater around 8:00 PM Wednesday night. Thinking we would take our time, the drive to Road Atlanta would take 10 hours. That would put us at the track around 6:00 AM Thursday. Drop the Z and the Trailer off at the track and be checked into the hotel around 9:00 AM. That would give us time to rest from the trip, clean up and be back at the track around 3:00 PM. Ready to stage the car then go to the BRE Reunion Dinner at 6:00PM. We actually hooked up the trailer around 9:00 PM... About 7 miles from the house Carl ask me if I smelled something burning. I did. We pulled off the road to find the trailer brakes were staying on, and they were HOT... For some reason the trailer brake controller had gone haywire... Humm, I thought it felt like the trailer was a little harder to pull.... We returned home and opened the garage... Three hours of trouble shooting the electrical circuits left us without any cause, other than the digital brake controller simply had a melt down. We could wait until the morning when shops opened and have a new brake controller in stalled - but that would mean that we would miss the BRE Reunion Dinner.... Or we could leave my Silverado 2500HD at home and take my son's Silverado 1500 also equipped with a trailer brake controller. Big difference between the two when you hook an enclosed car hauler and car behind them..... Nonetheless the 1500 would do the job. So we hooked up the 1500 and we were off again... this time around 2:00PM. We had to switch trailer hitches between the two trucks, as I have a weight distributing / anti-sway hitch on my truck and trailer. By 3:00 AM we were swinging by Jim's house in Lutz, to pick him up... and one of the weight distributing bars broke a weld and dropped down... Bummer!! We could safely pull the trailer without the weight distributing hitch and anti-sway control.... but it sure makes driving a lot more work as the entire rig is far less stable at speed. What the heck... we were on our way. The 10 hour trip turned into a 12 hour trip, as by the time we were half way there - we were too tired to continue - so we pulled into a rest area and took a 2 hour nap. I'd rather get there late and alive.. than the alternative. By 3:00PM Thursday were arrived at the track, unloaded the Z and took it to the BRE Display area. There too things were slightly behind schedule.. so we waited to see where/how the car would be parked.... We were all somewhat tired, with now 18 hours of road dirt/sweat and somewhat less than clean cloths... The good news was that everyone else was in the same condition... so we all went to the BRE Reunion Dinner in what Ron termed "true racer style"... Friday and Saturday I tried to find a local machine shop or welding shop to get the weight distributing trailer hitch fixed before the return home and I was having no luck. While touring the Pits, I ran across a beautiful 240Z parked by an 18 wheeler that had a DATSUN roadster parked beside it. A great looking BRE Tribute Roadster no less. So I stopped to see who owned them. To my surprise... Steve Heimsoth, IZCC #14498 came to meet me. He owned the 72 240Z we were admiring... and one of his team mates owned the Datsun Roadster. More amazing, the 18 wheeler was equipped with full arc welding capabilities and Steve's friend Gary said he would be happy to repair / re-weld the trailer hitch!! At that point - I felt that perhaps some balance was being put back into our universe... a bit of good fortune to start off-setting the earlier bad luck. "Balance In All Things", a creed of Systems Engineering. On the way home.. I was thinking about the wonderful week-end we just enjoyed and looking back over the decades I was reminded that most of the good fortune I've experienced, can be attributed to the good people I have had the pleasure of knowing. Pictured below is Steve's Z and Bill's award wining BRE Tribute Roadster... picture from Steve.

As Ron said - it was a pleasure to meet everyone. Jim Frederick and my son Carl made the trip with me. That is a long story by itself...I'll only say that if it isn't one thing it's another... I am sorry that given the time devoted to displaying the BRE Baja Z, and the associated activities - - that I really didn't get a chance to spend more time with everyone. "Associated Activities" included finding someone to weld a broken weight distributing trailer hitch and trying to get the Z to run over 3,500 RPM at the track for the Parade Lap {it was running perfectly at home before the trip !!}... Nonetheless, it was great seeing Les again and getting to meet Ron and his father in person. I hope everyone enjoyed the weekend as much as we did. Ron's Z was amazing.. Jim was shy, but I forced him to get in the picture... I also had to tell him to get his hand up where we could see it. ;-) Note that it is NOW around her waist.... Carl B.

Hi Mark: My son is bringing me ;-) He came over and spent the day cleaning the car hauler up. For the most part I watched and ran for refreshments ;-) Ron - two down and two to go.... I think that Eagle-One has actually improved the Original Nevr-Dull a bit. Let's pray for dry weather...

Rich - before too long - it may well be.

Hi Mark: Bringing your son? see you there.. Carl B.

"Nationals"?? - - bring it to the Mitty next week!! 3 YEARS.....in a few months you'll be wondering what project you can start on next. You really do need a pure stock example in the same color to sit beside it.;-) Fantastic Job... enjoy the ride... Carl B.

$800.00??? The last NOS set that I saw on E-Bay went for something over $1,200.00. Did you buy the repro's, a NOS set, or a used set? FWIW, Carl B.

Ah...yes... I was taking about myself..At 65 years of age, believe me I've paid a lot for my education - and I've been parted with a lot of money!! The good thing is we all get to be fooled from time to time - but we usually recover and move forward a bit wiser for the experience. live and learn... FWIW, Carl B.

Once the high bidder sees the car - I doubt he'll take it. If he buys it sight unseen -and takes delivery of it sight unseen - he deserves what he gets. A Fool and His Money Are Soon Parted.

A repaint - of very low quality. Glass left in the car etc..{Maako Special} Dry rotted carpet,cracked dash with half dash cover,bad weather stripping/seals Plastic Rear Panel - for the tail lights - replaced with a sheet of dark gray cardboard. Chrome on the rear bumper is a mess. Entire under carriage coated with black undercoat Engine components all painted... very amateur and juvenile. Things that were originally Yellow Cad are now painted black, valve cover painted gray, fuel lines painted white....get the picture? Impossible to tell how or if rust damage was fixed. At this point the actual body looks pretty straight, but you would have to strip it bare metal to see. This "might" have been a good car at one point, but it looks like it fell into the hands of 14 year old, that had time to screw with it but no funds to do anything right. In short - a real crying shame...

Prospective buyer went to look at it - and walked away. I'm sure he was very disappointed... I looked at the car today. Had to ask twice if this was the car they have on e-bay. Classic example of why you NEVER buy a car without first physically inspecting it. FWIW, Carl B.

As i recall the distributor spins counter-clockwise. Just move the spark plug wires one hole clockwise... far easier than dropping the oil pump.

Thanks... updated the record...

The last time it was reported as 6/74.. Did you just look at it or are you going from memory? thanks, Carl B.

Hi Chris/Alan: I understand your perspectives and arguments to support them. I simply disagree. As we have now gotten pretty far afield of the original questions that started this thread - I'll stop now and go watch the Games in Canada... FWIW, Carl B.

Chris: The relevance comes from your earlier statement quoted above. "In this case, "factory" means Datsun not Nissan Ltd." The muddled thinking is that somehow Nissan Motor Co. in Japan is a different company than Nissan Motor Co. in USA. That is what seems to have lead you to state that Nissan Motor Co. located in the US - had the ability or authority to offer their own non-factory Datsun "warranties" I simply pointed out the fact that Nissan states that "Nissan Motor Co. Ltd / Nissan Motor Co. Japan and Nissan Motor Co. in U.S.A. are interchangeable - ie one and the same - and thus can be shorted to simply "Nissan". It was in fact Nissan that made the point quite clear that the entire Nissan Corporation stood behind the Limited Warranty - not as you stated "Datsun USA" An interesting point that could easily have been interjected without the incorrect "misnomer" diversion. The URL that I listed is clearly marked "Factory Authorized Accessories For The 1972 DATSUN 240-Z" and the subsection is clearly titled "Accessories For The DATSUN 240Z" - both of which were relevant to the original questions Tony ask. No attempt was made to make it "coincide" with any other data. It is there simply to share with anyone interested or with anyone that had not see the original brochures from 1972. No - I don't find it strange at all. In fact it was quite common practice for imported cars in the 60's and 70's. The economies of mass production of a specific model were applied commonly to export models in the 60's and 70's being imported into the U.S. Building one model, one way, with a specific set of "standard" equipment yielded the highest production numbers with the lowest unit cost. Common practice by VW in the 50's and 60's - followed by Nissan years later. Do you think that Nissan Shatai Koki produced the foot rest, the radio, the fog lights, the side strips, the vinyl roof cover etc etc.? They were all produced by different OEM's supplying Nissan in Japan. No different than an OEM suppler here in the US supplying Nissan. As I understood it from and earlier conversation with Kats and others - the accessories not standard on a specific model were installed as customer options - at the Nissan Dealer in Japan. In Japan or here in the US - the accessories were supplied by companies outside of Corporate Nissan {known as OEM's}. In Japan and here in the U.S. the accessories were installed by the Nissan/Datsun Dealers. Nothing strange about that - it was just common practice. FWIW, Carl B.

Hi DeMoore: Before the 1972 "Model Year" - the various State Laws covered how automobile titles would be issued and part of the information on the Title was Make, Model and Year. So a Datsun Dealer "could" request a title for a Series I car based on its Date of Manufacture, or based on what he believed the Model was in terms of Model Year. The bottom line is that we wound up having Series I cars Sold and Titled as 1969, 1970 and 1971 Models, because that single model meet all U.S. Safety and Emissions Standards for the three years. As well as the fact that many imported models made their model change over in Jan of the Model Year. By the 1972 Model Year - the U.S. Federal Safety and Emissions laws more or less took the designation of "Model Year" out of the hand of the Dealers and States. These regulations were implemented by a specified Date Of Manufacture, and they changed again for 1973, again for 1974 again for 1975... Where Nissan made the model change over from 1970 to the Late Model 1971 in Jan. of 1971, they pulled the model change over in a few months for 1972 Model Year into 09/71. Since that time - With the exception of the 1975 Model Year {when the F.I. engine had not been certified in time for sale in the US} - - Nissan has made their Model change overs during 09/xx. So your car is most likely a 1978 Model. I say "most likely" because there always seems to be some over-lap during the Model change-overs... FWIW, Carl B.

Oops.. yes - should be 01/71. thanks, Carl B.

Hi Ron: Yes - New In Box {aka NIB} is the "gold" for Collectors. As AMCO most likely sold a lot more Datsun Accessories over the years, the NIB Datsun Boxs would command higher prices today. I've always thought about finding every accessory in the Datsun Accessory Catalog and putting them on my White 72 just for display. I had a "Car Top Pop-up Tent" that went on the 240Z as well. Made the mistake of loaning to a friend - and never got it back.... It was pretty neat too.. FWIW, Carl B.