Everything posted by Zed Head
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Weber 42 DCOE 8
Did you check the numbers? Just curious. You might fall in to the trap of thinking that the PO used all correct parts. @jitenshakun
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New owner
At the end of all of the discussion I don't think that anyone is going to pay more for a "Black Pearl". The car salesmen will use anything to promote a car. You might even find Jon Voight's pencil in the glove box.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Some of the transmissions we've seen on the site have been incredibly damaged inside. Often the owner didn't even know until they changed the fluid and found a collection of metal parts on the magnet. A failed transmission is almost unheard of. They die very very slowly.
- Electro-phile Follies, Vol.2
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ring gap posistion
And the two stroke cylinder had the tapered opening so you could get the rings in. CO built what is essentially a two stroke engine cylinder. Maybe the same for the four strokes.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Slip the slip yoke in to the end of the transmission and wiggle it around. You should also check the slip yoke surface for wear, it can get grooved if somebody let the seal wear out. I haven't seen a spec for play, I think it's kind of a gut feel thing. It will feel looser without the seal in place.
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Electro-phile Follies, Vol.2
It might well be that ensys doesn't realize the effect his writing style has. Plus he's still worked up over the inability to post images. But, still, a problem was solved.
- Electro-phile Follies, Vol.2
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"77 Z issues with KYB + VOGTLAND lowering springs
I was actually asking madkaw. But your info is good too. Do yours fit the perches? @Soedward11
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Just thought of this - don't lose the preload shim in the countershaft bore in the front cover. It might be stuck in there, hidden, but you'll need it and the odd sizes aren't available anymore.
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"77 Z issues with KYB + VOGTLAND lowering springs
Bummer. Who did you order them from?
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Here's a good read about doing transmission work. It also shows a sealed bearing used on a 71C transmission. Looks like it came from Nissan that way, the guy bought a brand new 240SX 5 speed. It's the front main shaft bearing though, which wouldn't see much fluid splash probably. He has some good tips for reassembling. Put the transmission in gear before reassembling otherwise you can get two gears engaged at one time as the shift rods are accidentally moved. This is where I learned about Hylomar Blue also. A non-setting sealant. http://zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/240SX5spd/transmission.htm
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New owner
If you can find an area of paint that has metallic black then it was a Black Pearl, apparently. Probably what we used to call "metal flake". Check the back of the gas filler door.
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Weber 42 DCOE 8
How about oil instead of fuel? A bad valve seal or oil scraper ring maybe. Are the DCOE's easy to swap? Swap it and see if the problem stays with the barrel.
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New owner
This site says that "Black Pearl" is paint, stripes, an extra mirror, and a louver. So, look for holes or witness marks where the mirror and louver was installed. https://classiccars.com/listings/view/910782/1978-datsun-280z-"black-pearl"-for-sale-in-beverly-massachusetts-01915 Here's a picture that seems to show the bottom brackets for the louver.
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New owner
Never mind, I'm wrong. I think that "Black Pearl" is an urban legend, isn't it? Or some sort of ad copy that got blown up in to a thing.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
p.s. if you can find the number on that bearing you might be able to look it up to see what, exactly, it is. I'm sure it's fine, but just curious. The number's probably engraved on the side of the outer race. Here's a link to browse the different types of bearings. There's a bunch for all kinds of different applications. Looks like Dave and Chas were right, best to have good lubricant flow through yours. It's not what I thought it was. https://www.vxb.com/Sealed-Ball-Bearing-s/198.htm?searching=Y&sort=13&cat=198&show=15&page=2 2nd edit - and just to fill out the bearing saga, a page showing a "rubber molded to a steel plate" seal https://www.grainger.com/product/35JC49?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkqvpqK_S6QIVUtbACh2EvQbAEAQYASABEgK_dPD_BwE&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIkqvpqK_S6QIVUtbACh2EvQbAEAQYASABEgK_dPD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!402184946084!!!g!439044420138!
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Yikes, that's a scary video. I'll bet you were sweating, maybe still are, wondering about pulling it out. But, it's just metal a seal instead of plastic. It looks like it might actually be more of a metal shield to keep crap out. I didn't se any grease, so pulling it will give more lubrication. Can you see the other side? The sealed bearings are sealed on both sides. As Dave said though, the retainer and races hold the bearings in place. The retainer, the metal piece with the bumps in it, is actually also a spacer, keeping the balls separate so that the inner race stays centered and the balls can't get torqued out. Without that piece the balls all end up on one side with a big gap on the other.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Underneath the plastic seal is a bearing just like these, from your video, with the retainer wrapped around the balls in the races. You can actually get those exact bearings in a sealed form if you wanted them. Some people use a sealed bearing for the countershaft bearing. Maybe it keeps it quieter. I'm not so sure it's a huge deal, really. There are holes in the adapter plate, at the bottom, I think that allow oil flow. The bearing is loaded with grease before they seal it. But if you peel the seal out you won't hurt anything.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Thanks Chas. Yes, I chose the wrong word. Lazy on my part. But, the SKF guide says that C3 clearance is greater than normal. So, loose. Who knows, maybe a rebuilder should drop the clearance back to normal, since the internal bearings seem to fail often. Maybe they're too loose. https://www.skf.com/cn/en/products/bearings-units-housings/principles/general-bearing-knowledge/bearing-basics/internal-clearance/index.html
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ring gap posistion
I'd guess that the fact they never specified front or back, only thrust direction, means that it doesn't matter. Looks like they're just saying "don't line your gaps up with the thrust direction, make sure top and bottom ring gaps are opposing, and put the spacer gap between the two." They used the same picture all the way through 1983, even with the turbo engine. p.s. I see that I confused the oil ring discussion with the overall ring gap discussion. Sorry about that. Still, it's looking like it doesn't matter much. Space the gaps out and expect them to move during usage. p.s. #2 - it would still be neat to see where the rings are in a high mileage engine. The dynamics might cause them all to end up in a similar position. A "resting" place after their walks.
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
Is there grease inside? Supposedly they are filled with super duper grease designed specifically for the bearing. The purpose is to keep them lubricated when they are used in areas that can't be reached for regular maintenance. The bearings are C3 tolerance which is loose, to allow crud to slip out, as I understand things. but, this reference says it's to allow expansion. Trivia... https://www.bearing-king.co.uk/article/why-are-your-bearings-c3 More stuff. I'm learning. https://www.skf.com/cn/en/products/bearings-units-housings/principles/general-bearing-knowledge/bearing-basics/internal-clearance/index.html
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5 Speed Transmission inspection and possible rebuild.
grannkyknot has also rebuilt a 5 speed. EuroDat posted some pictures in his thread. I opened up the 1982 FSM and found a similar issue where they don't show it in the diagram but do describe it in the reassembly text. It's an odd little chunk of folded stamped metal. You could probably make your own pretty easily. I don't think that there's much engineering in it.
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ring gap posistion
My thoroughness is letting my coffee get cold... https://fpsdistribution.com/articles/piston-ring-gaps-preventing-engine-damage/ " Aligning Ring Gaps Unless pegged, all piston rings slowly rotate round in their grooves while the engine is running. For this reason, it isn’t important to make sure the ring gaps are aligned – though you may find it easier for fitting if you stagger the ring gaps before you apply a ring clamp. However, no harm will be done if the gaps temporarily align in service.
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ring gap posistion
My point was about what happens, not what was designed to happen. Many two-stroke engine pistons have a peg in the groove and the ring ends are shaped to fit the peg. that's a design meant not to walk. http://m.2strokeengine.net/gordonjennings/twostroketunershandbook.php