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I wonder if BaT will pursue their commission if it sold outside of the auction so soon after?

Like in real estate, there can be a "commission protection period" if you sell your house after the listing agent contract has expired.



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Today, the first official announcement of the S30.world 'The Masterpieces Collection' sales, to begin on 23rd October:

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S30.world - The Masterpieces program

The Masterpieces program

Garage 44 of Annville, Pennsylvania will be coordinating sales in the USA.

Wow, this is pretty cool and it's not April 1st. This should be a fun auction to watch. A note on the blue car that appears to be a pre 21000 car. The map light is hooded which is the same as my early car and also @Johnz1971 car that we discussed here.

1970 Wiring Diagram - Page 9 - Electrical - Classic Zcar Community

Buyer beware, anytime a seller claims it is a factory correct restoration it makes you wonder which factory! Looking at a lot of the details on the S30 cars they have in their museum they are far from factory correct, nice and shiny but Nissan never built them to this level. Also quite a few important details on the early cars are different to how they were built. I'm no expert but if I can spot the difference how can the so called experts involved advising S30 have missed them?

Looks like they're only selling one, to start. Wonder which. BaT has been having a run of RNM's lately.

https://s30.world/collection

https://s30.world/masterpieces

"...

A limited-run of factory-correct restorations of the iconic Datsun 240Z will become available, with the first one to be sold at auction in the United States on October 23rd 2025.

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The auction will take place on the renowned Bring-a-trailer site, and it represents a rare opportunity for collectors and enthusiasts to own a piece of automotive history. The auction date of October 23rd, 2025 ..."

50 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

Looking at a lot of the details on the S30 cars they have in their museum they are far from factory correct...

For example? Let's discuss it. Fire away. Maybe we can all learn something.

51 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

...nice and shiny but Nissan never built them to this level.

Aha! Too shiny! Perhaps they should have used (illegal) early 1970s Alkyd Enamel paint. You have a ready supply I presume?

53 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

Also quite a few important details on the early cars are different to how they were built.

No 'Cad' plating? Tut tut.

One thing that was required (I reckon) was a healthy dose of pragmatism. And it's one thing to know how a certain car is supposed to be, and another to make it so. There are plenty who don't know the former, so have no chance of achieving the latter. You will of course be sympathetic to this situation, having been there yourself... Right?

54 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

I'm no expert...

This has been noted previously. You're giving it a pretty good go though, so more power to you.

54 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

...but if I can spot the difference how can the so called experts involved advising S30 have missed them?

Who are the "so called experts" you are referring to, and exactly what role have they had in the restoration of the cars? Inquisitive minds would like to know.

Wow you make this too easy RAE! Which factory are they making it correct to, certainly not Nissan. Look at the underside of the white December 1970 240Z https://s30.world/collection/datsun-240z-hls30-15652-us nothing like that ever came out of the factory. Look under the front cowling over the windscreen wiper motors and ventilation, never seen that finish from the factory, it's usually gray undercoat beneath that panel. What happened to all the chipseal the factory applied under the car that was then covered with overspray when the final paint was applied. That's a factory correct restoration when you see that, not all this shiny stuff. So many other things that are wrong but I'll let you stew on the obvious that you seem to have missed. It may be a nice fully restored car but certainly not factory correct like you and your mate claims.

Here's a good one for you, tell me why this is incorrect. The brake from HLS30 00057 It will give you an idea of the attention to detail S30 go to to get a factory correct restoration!

Brake.jpg

31 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

So many other things that are wrong but I'll let you stew on the obvious that you seem to have missed.

How have I "missed" anything? I haven't made any claim about that car and I didn't build it. It was nothing - literally nothing - to do with me. You've gone off half-cocked.

32 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

It may be a nice fully restored car but certainly not factory correct like you and your mate claims.

As above, I have not made any claim about these cars. And who is this "mate" that you refer to? You seem to have made some assumptions that are more arse than umption.

I asked you who were the "so called experts" you were referring to, and answer was there none. So I'm not very hopeful, but there it is. I'm getting the feeling that you are confusing the messenger with the message. Again.

Did you also miss my mention that a healthy dose of pragmatism goes a long way when getting involved in the restoration and refurbishment of these cars? The mere fact that a car is 'restored' will naturally mean that it is no longer original or factory correct. Rivet counting and nitpicking from the Peanut Gallery is fine up to a point (I partake as much as anyone else) but taking it all the way to its logical conclusion we all end up dancing on the head of a pin. Even the record-setting green car on BaT had plenty of non-originality on show. How far do you want to take it? 1970 air in the tyres?

Perhaps it might be worth reminding ourselves that the term 'Factory Correct' is a fine intention, but a logical impossibility if taken literally. Personally I'd tend to take it as more of a statement of faithful but necessarily pragmatic target-setting. There will no doubt be plenty of shots at point-scoring on the BaT auction, which is par for the course and fair enough. And people who take sales patter a little too seriously might like to pop back to 1969 to remind themselves that these cars have had hyperbolic statements attached to them from Day One.

Personally, I'd say - with English understatement hopefully detected - that these cars are pretty good. But by all means, show me better.

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