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    Cozye,

    I look forward to hearing what the final result is. I may end up using them after all.

    carl

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    update on the nu-chrome. They got my bumpers, the base estimate was low for the work needed to be done. Due to how bent up my bumpers are and the holes that need to be filed, along with the front bumper having a couple rust through spots, it's going to be $1000 total, after shipping, tax, labor, hazardous materials fee, etc.. That's quite a bit more than I was expecting.

    I called denver bumper. They quoted $500 as a base price, told me that shipping would be extra, and that did not include filling holes or straightening. They said that price was based on a pair of clean bumpers. They also said if there was rust through, they may not even be able to repair them.

    I went on and gave nuchrome approval. ETA is 8 weeks. They assured me it would be a very good job. We shall see.

    I'm very tempted to scrap the whole idea and search for clean bumpers, but given the fact that I can't paint my car until I get some bumpers (still need to drill the quarter panel hole and do final fit), I've opted to throw more money out the door to just get it over with and move on. I figure best case scenario I'd still have $600-700 in a set of high quality bumpers.

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    Hey, I just thought I would toss this in for thought. I bought a set stainless steel bumpers from Harrington Group, GB, about a year ago for the '70 Z. They are actually made in Viet Nam. I was wary, of course, but the guy in VN was easy to deal with via email. They made my rear bumper as one piece as I had half kiddingly suggested, no holes in the faces, lightweight, maybe 15 pounds together. They are not going to protect much, mostly aesthetic. I haven't begun putting the car together to inform on fit, but the finish is fantastic. It looked as if the tips of the rear wings were angled outward a little, but that wouldn't bother me as I intend to widen the rear fenders aft the wheels. They had never had that request, and I gave them the feedback which should prevent that in future. I had searched for nearly 20 years for clean, naked bumpers, so I jumped on it and paid $950, half for deposit, balance before shipping, shipping included, and I traced them from delivery to home in central Indiana, under two weeks from order date. Arrived well packaged and perfect. Their website is pretty cool, too, lots of products. Stainless steel. No holes. Custom requests. I'm pretty picky, and I am impressed. This is not a sales pitch, just a positive experience. Jim

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    update on the nu-chrome. They got my bumpers, the base estimate was low for the work needed to be done. Due to how bent up my bumpers are and the holes that need to be filed, along with the front bumper having a couple rust through spots, it's going to be $1000 total, after shipping, tax, labor, hazardous materials fee, etc.. That's quite a bit more than I was expecting.

    I called denver bumper. They quoted $500 as a base price, told me that shipping would be extra, and that did not include filling holes or straightening. They said that price was based on a pair of clean bumpers. They also said if there was rust through, they may not even be able to repair them.

    I went on and gave nuchrome approval. ETA is 8 weeks. They assured me it would be a very good job. We shall see.

    I'm very tempted to scrap the whole idea and search for clean bumpers, but given the fact that I can't paint my car until I get some bumpers (still need to drill the quarter panel hole and do final fit), I've opted to throw more money out the door to just get it over with and move on. I figure best case scenario I'd still have $600-700 in a set of high quality bumpers.

    thinking about heading back to the pick and pull, front bumper looked nice rear one had some faded crome not sure what shipping would be though, Are you looking for 280 or 240-260 bumpers?

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    thinking about heading back to the pick and pull, front bumper looked nice rear one had some faded crome not sure what shipping would be though, Are you looking for 280 or 240-260 bumpers?

    240 bumpers. Even good straight ones will still cost me a minimum of $600 to rechrome apparently. I reckon its just the cost of doing business..

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    Hey, I just thought I would toss this in for thought. I bought a set stainless steel bumpers from Harrington Group, GB, about a year ago for the '70 Z. They are actually made in Viet Nam. I was wary, of course, but the guy in VN was easy to deal with via email. They made my rear bumper as one piece as I had half kiddingly suggested, no holes in the faces, lightweight, maybe 15 pounds together. They are not going to protect much, mostly aesthetic. I haven't begun putting the car together to inform on fit, but the finish is fantastic. It looked as if the tips of the rear wings were angled outward a little, but that wouldn't bother me as I intend to widen the rear fenders aft the wheels. They had never had that request, and I gave them the feedback which should prevent that in future. I had searched for nearly 20 years for clean, naked bumpers, so I jumped on it and paid $950, half for deposit, balance before shipping, shipping included, and I traced them from delivery to home in central Indiana, under two weeks from order date. Arrived well packaged and perfect. Their website is pretty cool, too, lots of products. Stainless steel. No holes. Custom requests. I'm pretty picky, and I am impressed. This is not a sales pitch, just a positive experience. Jim

    Thanks for the info. I've actually emailed those guys. It's $1200 now for a set after shipping.

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    I would grab the bumpers anyway. Someone will certainly be looking for a pair in the future! I would use car removing the rubber as they can e fragile and might tear easily!

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    I bought a set stainless steel bumpers from Harrington Group, GB, about a year ago for the '70 Z. ....

    So, how does the color and shine compare with actual chrome? If they were sitting side by side would you be able to tell the difference?

    Also, did they sell you the uprights? I'm not sure I saw them on the auction page. Not sure the bumpers would match the uprights if they were chrome and the bumper was SS.

    John

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    I've changed my mind.

    After communicating with the sales guy from Harrington group, and the fact that they will make me a set of bumpers without the rubbers or holes, I'm going to go that route.

    I'll have a set of original 240z bumpers for sale as soon as they get back from nu-chrome.

    I figure by the time I sell my original bumpers, the cost will be roughly the same or slightly less to go with the new ones, and they are stainless.

    The communication from the harrington group has been excellent.

    http://www.groupharrington.com/en

    I'll post up pics when they arrive.

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    Due to how bent up my bumpers are and the holes that need to be filed, along with the front bumper having a couple rust through spots, it's going to be $1000 total, after shipping, tax, labor, hazardous materials fee, etc.. That's quite a bit more than I was expecting.

    Given the condition of the bumpers - how much do you think you can get out of them? For that matter, why would anyone buy them?

    Maybe you could start with a very good set of used bumpers that costs $500.00 or less, then have them re-chromed for $500.00.

    While I'm sure stainless bumpers can be very nice - they will turn your Classic into a Modified. Not a problem if you plan to drive it often and worry about rust problems, but stainless will never look the same as good chrome.

    Just me - but for the same money or slightly more I'd stick with chrome originals. If the stainless were half the price - maybe.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

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    Given the condition of the bumpers - how much do you think you can get out of them? For that matter, why would anyone buy them?

    Maybe you could start with a very good set of used bumpers that costs $500.00 or less, then have them re-chromed for $500.00.

    While I'm sure stainless bumpers can be very nice - they will turn your Classic into a Modified. Not a problem if you plan to drive it often and worry about rust problems, but stainless will never look the same as good chrome.

    Just me - but for the same money or slightly more I'd stick with chrome originals. If the stainless were half the price - maybe.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

    I'm not sure what I can get out of them. I've got $300 in them. I'm sure I can get something out of them, they are salvageable. From my discussions with two different chrome shops, the $500 price for chroming bumpers is a starting point, for a perfect set of bumpers. after shipping, materials fees, and any clean up work it will cost more.

    And as far as my classic, it's a 280, so putting 240 bumpers on is already a modification. If I was doing a 240 resto, I would stick with the originals for sure. It won't be a daily driver, but it will be a driver.

    Honestly, I was trying to do the whole thing for about $700-800 including chroming. That just isn't going to happen though. If I could find a perfect set of 240 bumpers with no holes for $700-800, I'd buy them. I don't think they are out there though. Been watching for 6 months.

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    just for reference, here are the pics of my original 240 bumpers so that everyone has a reference of my starting point.

    This is the rear, although I do have the optional top bar that goes with it as well but no pic. The top bar is in very good shape.

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    here are a couple pics of the front bumper. when I originally purchased it, the rubbers hid the rust so I thought they were in better shape. Interestingly enough, to patch each rust spot was only adding $40 to the price. (20 per spot)

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    just for reference, here are the pics of my original 240 bumpers so that everyone has a reference of my starting point.

    Thanks Cozye - that is very helpful.

    I have about 3 sets that I would like to send out for re-chrome, plus a couple other guys here in the Tampa Bay area have sets they want to have rechromed. So I'm very interested in this discussion thread.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

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    Thanks Cozye - that is very helpful.

    I have about 3 sets that I would like to send out for re-chrome, plus a couple other guys here in the Tampa Bay area have sets they want to have rechromed. So I'm very interested in this discussion thread.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

    No problem. for what it's worth, the nu-chrome guys I think would handle restoring bumpers very well. When I talked to Denver bumper, they indicated by phone that if there was any rust through, they wouldn't fix it. Once you factored in shipping etc.. I think they are both very close in price. The original price from nu-chrome to just restore my bumpers as they are was $850, however it went up once he found out I wanted all the holes filled. He did not want to come down on price much and indicated that he had to have that amount in order to do a quality job. They do have a lot of years experience specifically with restoration etc..

    I know a lot of guys really like the Denver bumper shop, and they seem to have a great reputation. I do think the Nu-chrome place will be a viable alternative though and worth giving a shot. Nu-chrome will send fedex to pick up your bumpers for free for evaluation and quote. It is going to cost me $35 to get them back since I opted out of the job. I was just at the point where new stainless started to make more sense for me. Not to mention I will be getting the new bumpers in half the time. The rechrome is 8-12 weeks.

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    Thanks - I guess if they have so much business that they are 8-12 weeks behind, they don't have much incentive to lower their price either.

    Anyway you look at it - OSHA and EPA have at least trippled the cost of running a plating business in the U.S. Wonder if anyone has used any shops in Mexico.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

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    Johhny'O...I would say the appearance of the SS to chrome favors the SS. The stainless is just as shiny, but has less of the obvious "coated" appearance that chrome has. My Z will be all black, chrome, polished aluminum and likely a charcoal gray leather with some nice wood pieces for console. I wanted just the thin line chrome look, so I was really thrilled with their sleekness when I saw these at last. As I mentioned, they will not be protection, but the original bumpers weren't much protection either. These, I think, are superior in depth of shine. SS will tarnish slightly, but that oxidation will polish, whereas rust eats through; scratches should buff out. I believe they also do the overriders, but I think they may not supply the rubbers. Don't know, as I was not interested in those. The bumpers are painted black on the backside. Of course, I can't speak of their longevity, since they reside still in my attic until a few other projects are off the list. I do still have an OE rear if anyone is interested, but it does need rechromed. I have no monetary expectations, if somebody here in central Indiana wants me to pull it out of my attic. Later, Jim

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    I have dealt with replated bumpers since the late 60's and I'm surprised that any plating shop would attempt to repair the rust holes in the pictured front bumper and plate. That bumper appears to have been plated before and the fractured plating held moisture and started a blister which created the enviroment for the steel to rust through. An original plated bumper will not exhibit that peeling type of failure.

    You really dont want to replate any part that has been replated once. I forget the exact terminolgy but after the second time in the tank changes occur to the molecular composition of the metal from the acids and the current. This in turn causes difficulties in the adhesion of the copper,nickle and chrome to the metal. I'm currently looking for a unplated front for a 260z for this very reason. There really isnt an inexpensive alternative for any plating of automotive parts.

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    I have dealt with replated bumpers since the late 60's and I'm surprised that any plating shop would attempt to repair the rust holes in the pictured front bumper and plate. That bumper appears to have been plated before and the fractured plating held moisture and started a blister which created the enviroment for the steel to rust through. An original plated bumper will not exhibit that peeling type of failure.

    You really dont want to replate any part that has been replated once. I forget the exact terminolgy but after the second time in the tank changes occur to the molecular composition of the metal from the acids and the current. This in turn causes difficulties in the adhesion of the copper,nickle and chrome to the metal. I'm currently looking for a unplated front for a 260z for this very reason. There really isnt an inexpensive alternative for any plating of automotive parts.

    They cut it out, weld in new, and grind it smooth again. Their website has a pretty good detail about how they restore bumpers. FWIW, the rust is there from the rubbers being glued on, the moisture got between the rubber and chrome right where the over rider was rubbing on the edge.

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    Received the call from Denver Bumper today. My complete rear bumper is done and will be hear on Tuesday. Total cost for 2 corners, center, 2 uprights and 4 bolts is $370 plus $40.00 for return shipping. It cost me $15.00 to ship to them so I will have a total of $425.00 into them plus the cost of new rubbber. I started off with very straight but pitted parts. The only rust was on the mounting bolts. I am curious to see how they handled that. I was told 2 weeks turn-around but it actually was 1 day shy of 3 weeks which I think is acceptable if the job is done right.

    Does anyone know if the rear over rider rubbers are still available? I have checked with most of the usual suspects and can't seem to find them.

    Pictures to follow.

    John

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    Try Randy at vintage rubber for the rear overrider rubber pieces...it isn't specifically listed on their site but it is worth a try.

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    Does anyone know if this Denver Bumper is still in business?  I tried the number I found Googling it but says its been disconnected. Don't know if I had the right place or not.

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    2 hours ago, z3beemer said:

    Does anyone know if this Denver Bumper is still in business?  I tried the number I found Googling it but says its been disconnected. Don't know if I had the right place or not.

    Unfortunately, the owner of Denver Bumper Works sold the land and the building to a pot company and the owner retired. The new owners of the property razed the building and built new grow houses. Here's a picture that I took soon after the building was razed in July of 2014.

    I really miss Denver Bumper. I don't think that there are any other chrome shops here in the Denver area. 

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    It's been 20+ years since I had my bumpers chromed, but the place is still in business and does much chrome work for the hot rod guys. They seem to know what car folks expect. You will want to run a die down the bumper mounting bolts to clean up the threads or you will have trouble tightening the nuts, ask me how I know.

    https://www.ogdenchrome.com/

    They did the bumpers, grill and all other chrome on my wife's truck too.

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