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    the black spacer you are speaking of, is it the same as those that were on the early 74 260's? My old 260 had the small bumpers (early) and in front had a little "flap" that covered the tops of the bumpers in front. I thought those were 74 specific, no? I actually liked the look of them, I can only imagine they are scarce these days.

    The Motorsport Auto catalog lists different part numbers for the 73 240Z and Early 260Z bumper filler pieces (which is what you are asking about)

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    What would you say a 240Z with minimal rust, fairly straight body, and i would say probably 80-90% complete would go for? The VIN# seems very low from what you guys are saying it is HLS30-05578. Let me know! Thanks alot guys.

    Mike

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    1. Valuation of Z's can vary significantly depending on location

    2. Terms like "fairly straight body" leave a lot of "wiggle room" and what fits that difintion in your eyes will probably not fit that definition to me.

    3. If it's only 80 to 90% complete, it's a project car and it's value is (IMO) much less than a complete car of comparable condition, VIN, etc.

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    What would you say a 240Z with minimal rust, fairly straight body, and i would say probably 80-90% complete would go for? The VIN# seems very low from what you guys are saying it is HLS30-05578. Let me know! Thanks alot guys.

    Mike

    that's the ebay car from arizona which was initially listed as a 1972 car

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    Yea, it is the one on Ebay. I don't think it is worth me bidding then b/c I live in FL and it will cost close to $1000 to get it here. I was hoping maybe it would be worth around $1200-1400 so it would be a good buy, then restore it to complete stock. Looks like a good buy if I lived closer though.

    Mike

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    My valuation may not match anyone else's. I will always value something like that on the low side unless/until I can view it IN PERSON. Pictures and a flakey seller (this one IS) can be very deceptive.

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    I am having the same problem trying to decode my vin. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The vin is HS130220226. PLEASE HELP ME!

    Let's see. HS130 would indicate a 280ZX. 220226 quite possibly makes it one of the last 1980 models.

    While it isn't necessarily accurate, the Black Dragon catalog at least makes an attempt at breaking down the numbers:

    http://www.blackdragonauto.com/icatalog/z/0008.html

    What kind of information are you expecting to get out of the VIN?

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    This may not help for the early cars but might give people a good idea on how the VIN # works. Plus a little extra info for no good reason. I was playing with the scanner.

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    I'mused to new car vins that tell almost everything about the car. From color to interior to engine and so on. Mostly I am trying to figure out how to find out all of this info. The car I purchased is in good running order but needs a great deal of interior replacement. I have never worked on a car like this so I am trying to learn as I go. I have a good deal of experience with old American cars but none with cars like this. I appreciate any and all help.

    Thanks To All

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    You may find a "Model Identification Data Plate" on your ZX under the hood... that will provide some farther information related to what specific model it is and thus what was standard equipment etc.

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

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    I'mused to new car vins that tell almost everything about the car. From color to interior to engine and so on. Mostly I am trying to figure out how to find out all of this info.

    You can't. New car VINS have all of that information encoded in about 17 alphanumeric characters. The Datsun numbers are simple sequential serial numbers preceded by the model type. The only way you'd be able to get the information you seek would be if Nissan had maintained a database of VINs with all of the options stored there. I've never heard of such a thing.

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    Did the ZX's not have a color code sticker under the hood? If you knew the model type (GL or not) and the original color, you would be able to determine the interior color, as well as what was standard equipment (yes/no?)

    Carl B.

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    You need to get a parts book or CD to help you determine parts. Color should be fairly simple to determine since Nissan didn't offer say, 5 different whites back then as they do now. There's not many ZX owners that post here so information will be sketchy at best. I'm not trying to discourage you from coming and posting here, but maybe you should be looking for a ZX forum.

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    Did the ZX's not have a color code sticker under the hood? If you knew the model type (GL or not) and the original color, you would be able to determine the interior color, as well as what was standard equipment (yes/no?)

    Carl B.

    Yes it does have a color code sticker under the hood I believe it was a blue. The majority of the car is primered but there are still remnents of the blue on the car. I will have to look into the info plate under the hood. I must appologize I didn't realize there would be seperate sites for Z's and ZX's. If that is the case can anyone recomend a good ZX site?

    Thanks Van

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    Van, what color is your dash?

    If I remember correctly (and I probably don't), there where only three options-

    1. brown dash, tan interior, brownish carpet

    2. dark (navy) blue dash, blue interior

    3. red dash, red interior.

    I think things where different for the GL models, they had leather seats, and some other stuff, so I may be completely off base.

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    I know you guys in the US know alot about the s30 as it is labled over there,but who can tell me the build date of my C-GS31 fairlady Z.

    Ill post the chassis number tomorrow.cheers and beers.

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    Hello all,

    I recently got my father's 240Z. Its VIN is HLS30-15369.

    The mfg. plate on the driver's side door say's it was built 12/70.

    Paperwork shows that the car was ordered 7/11/70, and delivered 2/18/71.

    First question, what is this car? a 1970 or 1971?

    Also what other info can the VIN tell?

    (the car was parked in 1980 when my father lost his sight, and has 24,041 on the odo)

    There are signs of some rust starting to show on the rocker panels and obviously all the mechanicals and seals need a thorough going over.)

    Thanks!

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    Hello all,

    I recently got my father's 240Z. Its VIN is HLS30-15369.

    The mfg. plate on the driver's side door say's it was built 12/70.

    Paperwork shows that the car was ordered 7/11/70, and delivered 2/18/71.

    First question, what is this car? a 1970 or 1971?

    Also what other info can the VIN tell?

    (the car was parked in 1980 when my father lost his sight, and has 24,041 on the odo)

    There are signs of some rust starting to show on the rocker panels and obviously all the mechanicals and seals need a thorough going over.)

    Thanks!

    Welcome Jason, I see you made it over from Jalopnik! :classic: I may be wrong, but it appears your car may be a '71 model. The only thing the VIN really tells you is that it is a US 240Z, 15369th car produced. The door jab plate tells you when the car was produced, and there is a plate on the passenger side engine bay that tells you the engine number as well.

    I'll let others more knowledgeable chime in to confirm or deny if your car is a '71.

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    Yup, I made it over...

    So this appears to be a Series I 1971 (not to be confused with a Series II 1971)...

    which means its a "1970" style car (meaning looking for parts, esp. engine parts)

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    While the designation of Series I and II seem to be from Nissan (Datsun) they're not, they're more our (US) labels to differentiate between the earlier versions and later versions. I believe that the labels go up to Series IV. www.zhome.com has more information on that. Here's the link to the production figures for the HLS30 model: http://zhome.com/History/DesignChanges.htm

    But to help you identify items, your car is a Series I if it has Vents in the Hatch and NOT on the C pillars above the rear wheels. There are more determinants, but that is the most obvious and the least changeable. Other determinants include the dash, the center console, headlight sugar scoop material, interior plastic pieces and accessories, rear hatch window glass, etc.. Rather than try to list them all here, go to the Zhome link, and remember that much of the information there is for the HL version of the S30 and not necessarily applicable to the other market models worldwide.

    FWIW

    Enrique

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    Its a series I... the vents are in the hatch...

    but is it a 70 or a 71?

    I'd say HLS30-15369 would be a 71 based on these three lines:
    HLS30 011618 10/70 Highest VIN# Sold/Titled As A 1970 Model Year Car

    HLS30 017827 12/70 Last Full Month Of Series-I Body Style Production (rear hatch vents)

    Note 3: Series-I production carried over into Jan. of 1971.

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