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Wow! Set of 4 "D" Wheel Covers for $1,247.00!!

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hard to believe the supply is THAT short, or the demand THAT high, but then again P.T. Barnum, and Forrest Gump each have a quote that comes to mind in situations like this.

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It's not that hard to bid in the last few seconds, and there is little incentive to bid any sooner. Even if you are off doing something else when the auction ends, you can still bid in the last few seconds.....

www.auctionsniper.com

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Why bid prematurely? Why would you want to increase an auction's current bid price if it doesn't close for several more days? This only leads to an inflated closing bid. There is no reason to bid prematurely; it will only encourage other bidders to bid on the item.
Taken from AuctionSniper.com

This is a valid point only IF you don't bid the true MAXIMUM amount you are willing to pay for the item. Unfortunately, too many of us (myself included) WANT that bargain. The proverbial Dollar for 50¢ item. The problem with that type of bidding is that someone might be willing to pay 51¢ and so on.

Besides, the only way a snipe bid will win the item is if in fact your bid is higher than the one that's currently winning.

Personally, I don't care for the snipe bid. I think that it takes much of the ...fun?... out of the auction process. But, at least from my experience if you stick by your MAXIMUM bid, you may find that someone elevates the price you pay, or they pay more than you're willing to. The angst of the snipe bid is that it is right at the last moment AND that, because of the way the bid increment works, they always take the item away from you by "only 50¢".

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Enrique

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I decide before the end of auction what the item is worth TO ME. I snipe at that price at the last possible moment and if someone else outbids me.......I don't care. I don't bid for fun, I bid for parts.

I put dollar bills in "G" Strings for fun! :stupid:

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You should come up to Portland Oregon. They're not required to use G-Strings, only have to maintain a 2 ft. distance, and if you tip well, the girl can "oops" closer.

Whether you choose to "snipe" or bid in the first days of an auction, if you stick by your maximum price, you'll still win and lose some. And in both cases, you'll pay less than your maximum only if nobody else wishes to bid that high.

Enrique

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You should come up to Portland Oregon. They're not required to use G-Strings, only have to maintain a 2 ft. distance, and if you tip well, the girl can "oops" closer.

Whether you choose to "snipe" or bid in the first days of an auction, if you stick by your maximum price, you'll still win and lose some. And in both cases, you'll pay less than your maximum only if nobody else wishes to bid that high.

Enrique

So if I come up there will you and Gary take me to the good clubs? :cheeky:

I've tried (in the beginning of my eBay ventures) to bid during the auction an it just seems to encourage others to try to "bump" my bid. I use the eBay tool bar and it prompts me 30 minutes before an auction I'm watching ends. I then synchronize an kitchen timer to the eBay clock and snipe. It works better for me, though I have had my ISP crap out in the last seconds of an auction. Talk about pissed!! Oh, Boy!

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Evidently, supply IS that short Carl. I don't know what spell has come over some of my low VIN friends, but I'm glad to see my reputation as "Richy Rich" fade into the sunset. Did you see the $250 cigarette lighter? Or the $200 inspection lid clips?

If they don't wear G-strings to hold the dollars, where do you "stuff" them?

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Sure! As long as you remember that when they mean NO TOUCHING, they're referring to YOU reaching out.

Last time I took a client out to the clubs (he was from Chile), when the girl bent over to let him get a good rear view, he jumped up and was about to plant a kiss....you know where. I reached up and yanked him down by his belt, and boy was he pissed. It wasn't until I pointed out the half ton bouncer headed our way that he realized I was only saving his hide.

I took him to another club, where the girls were....shall we say, a bit more forward and got him all happy again. A year later, I went to Chile and he reciprocated with THEIR clubs. Believe me, the raunchiest we have here....is MILD down there. Before I get tons of PM's asking what/why/when/where etc., let's just say that the term Audience Participation took on a completely different meaning.

As far as the auction, I too have had my share of price bumpers who do nothing but bump up the price I end up paying.

Oh well, that's part of the "fun".

Enrique

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Evidently, supply IS that short Carl. I don't know what spell has come over some of my low VIN friends, but I'm glad to see my reputation as "Richy Rich" fade into the sunset. Did you see the $250 cigarette lighter? Or the $200 inspection lid clips?

Do you have pics of the clips or the lighter? I have some loose parts, maybe I have some gold I didn't know about? Seriously.

It doesn't make sense to me. Burt's car (which includes hubcaps) draws ever lower bids ($17.1 this last time) and yet people will buy a set of 4 hub caps for more than 7% of that amount. Makes no sense to me.

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It's hard to afford anything when there are people out there willing to spend anything for parts. I think I'll double check my spares for some gold. The winner of the hubcaps, old_guy99, has bid on lots of auction dealing with 240Z type items. I guess I'll wait until he has everything he needs. LOL

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&sort=3&userid=old_guy99&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sacategory=-1&nojspr=y&sspagename=h%3Ah%3Aadvsearch%3AUS&sofocus=bs&sosortproperty=1&satitle=&catref=C6&sorecordsperpage=50&sosortorder=1&from=R7&nojspr=y&pfid=0

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As far as the bills, you usually put it in front of you on the edge of the stage. The girl comes by and picks it up and will "personalize" her dance for you. If you're a "regular" she might offer various means of "tucking" the bill, as long as the bouncer, etc. are ...shall we say... "oblivious" to what's happening.

As far as supply getting scarcer, it is. We all know that. Look at the prices that "European" tail lights were fetching a year ago, can you imagine what a new set would fetch now?

There are many parts that are now selling at prices MUCH higher than we would have believed. The Heater Control Panel, the Series I Ash Tray / Fuse Cover, unblemished Dashes, tail-lights, reclining mechanism covers, are all parts that, for those who had the foresight to stock up, yielding great profits. In a way, we ALL want that to happen. As the desireability of a complete and unblemished car goes up, so does the price. Whether it's because you're investing (a stretch) or because you hope that you can recoup some of your expenses, we're all hoping to benefit from that rise in prices.

As far as the exorbitant prices, it also boils down to "I'm not letting this one get away" fever. With the scarcity of the "D" hubcap in ANY condition, followed by the even scarcer unblemished, and then in NEW condition, I'm not surprised by the final bid.

Enrique

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I didn't think to save pics of the lighter. It was 25330-E4100 in the old red-white-blue box. I can take a picture of the clips I bought from Chloe for $6 if you like.

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Maybe old-guy read that Wall Street Journal piece and is hoping to cash in on it. Then again, maybe it's one of the buyers for "Overhauling", and if so, has any one of our members discovered his car missing? Or, it's actually Paris Hilton deciding to fund one of her boyfriend's hobby.

Enrique

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I'm with you Enrique. The trouble is that a new part at the high price is still less expensive than restoring the old part. I have just a little less than $300 in each of my restored hub caps.

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...a new part at the high price is still less expensive than restoring the old part....

Exactly. By the time you add in your time AND the possibility of failure in the middle of the process, it is MUCH cheaper and quicker to pay a higher price.

Hey, doesn't this sound like what we tell prospective buyers? Buy the BEST car you can afford, even if it's way more money than that "fixer-upper"?

How many times have we seen bumpers that "could use re-chroming" sell for $100-200 dollars, while new ones go for $400, and then discover the guy paid $250 to get it stripped and re-chromed. The extra $50 (low Side) or saved money (high side) sometimes isn't enough to offset the effort.

This isn't to say that there aren't bargains out there, but as more and more people get into the "hobby", those will get scarcer and pricier.

Then again, there are people out there that CAN effect repairs and restorations cheaper than buying some of those NOS parts, but they are also in the minority.

Enrique

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Am I the only one that's noticed the post time for the site is off by 3 hours?

Anyhow, I'm off.

Good Night and Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Remember that sometimes that it's just as important to be thankful for what you do NOT have (illness, poverty, etc.) as what you DO have.

Enrique

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Yep. Of all the low VIN and early car guys I know, the crowd leans to the side of guys restoring parts rather than buying new replacements. People like me tend to buy a couple of each item with the intent of selling the spare when we finish the restoration. I will re-chrome several sets of bumpers, for example. Bumpers I bought for $35 realizing what the re-chrome effort was going to be. It won't be very long (5 years) before there aren't any new parts and the resto parts are going to be this expensive. At least for the early cars.

I also want to say the eBay is NOT the only place to find this stuff and that it tends to be the most expensive solution.

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Am I the only one that's noticed the post time for the site is off by 3 hours?

It's been way off for a long time. Months ago Mike indicated (when it was pointed out in the SHOUT box) that it tended to "drift" and he seemed to think people were complaining about something trival. (I'm not speaking for him, but thats the way I read his response)

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This "Beck" at Beck Systems who paid over $200.00 for a pair of plastic inspection lid clips must be one of those Wall Street Journal readers we have discussed in these forums. He is probably doing a full concourse restro and wants his '70 240z to be perfect and is willing to pay big money for the rare NOS pieces in hope he gets a big return on his investment. We may not like this, but in the long run, we are all benefiting from it!

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This "Beck" at Beck Systems who paid over $200.00 for a pair of plastic inspection lid clips must be one of those Wall Street Journal readers we have discussed in these forums.

It's Carl Beck who runs the internet Z car club (www.zhome.com) and who posts here occasionally.

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Oh yes, I thought the name sounded familiar, thanks Mike. Like I said, the higher these parts go for, the more our 240Zs and our hard-to-find spare parts go up in value! The future looks bright!

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Oh yes, I thought the name sounded familiar, thanks Mike. Like I said, the higher these parts go for, the more our 240Zs and our hard-to-find spare parts go up in value! The future looks bright!

LOL

Tell that to Burt Diamond. He's been trying to sell his car for about 6 months. The high bid gets LOWER with every auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4504443135&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

Then there is this recent auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4505345559&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

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