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Does anyone have any more info on the Datsun Scarab?. I am after specs, production no's and any copys of actual ads or litriture from the people who make the Scarab conversion. The reson for this is I am tring to get it homoligated to run in our sports car series in Australia and the need proof that enough cars were made and what the engine,gearbox etc spec were. Any Info would be of great help

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From what I understand scarab was for the most part A mailorder kit. If I am wrong sorry this is just what I have been told by many people. If that is the case you wont find any kind of production #s.
I reside in Oklahoma and live at the wheel of my 240Z

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I have been collecting information for about 1 year now and can get most info first hand. My father and uncle were the original engine builders for Brian Scarab in the 1970's. There respective shops were back to back in Campbell, CA.

Basic progression started out with Chevy 350 Crate motors, with a Warner T-10 Tranny, custom Drive line and Radiator connected to a T-Bird rear end. Some minor Suspension mods and custom motor mounts were fabricated as well.

Later versions of the engine were more performance oriented and included up to a Twin Turbo 280z clocked at well over 170 mph in So. CA. The Scarab car was either custom built (the owner supplied the car to Brian for Mods) or a kit could be purchased for self-modification.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

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I reside in Oklahoma and live at the wheel of my 240Z

gimmie the Z or he's toast:smoke::tapemouth
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There are 3 Scarabs that were made for production (if you wanna call it that.) One of them just disappeared the face of the earth. There are only 2 existing according to Hoover Chan.

Hoover owned one of the original Scarab. I got to ride in it at a Hybridz meet in San Leandro, CA. It was his last drive before he sold it to someone out of the CA state.

Each car had the builders signature'(s). I'm sure you can find some pictures at Hybridz.org

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I believe I have what you wish -just have to find it-
have the original Scarab conversion book some where in my office -will look for you- John Olson Elgin Ill. 847-464-5280

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Take a look at my site for a few Scarab pix. I could try and contact the owner, he lives here in town and I think he's a member of the local Z club.
'70 240Z - HLS30-08215 - Production Date 8/70
'70 240Z - HLS30-06293 - Rusty and has Identity Crisis (must have been wrecked and the back 1/2 sectioned in from a later car maybe even a 280Z)...PARTS CAR!
'71 240Z - HLS30-018482 - Production Date 1/71,Corvette Yellow, driven under a 4Runner, bought for parts, hit lotto with parts on car, may fix and put back on road

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I purchased a 1973 240 Z scarrab about 3 years ago. I have the documentation on where it had been sent to california in 1978 for the modifications. I'm not sure if this is a production model or not. I would appreciate any information you could supply me with.

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Here's some info. If you need more just ask specific questions and I will dig up answers for you.

Founder of Scarab Engineering: Brian Morrow

Meaning of Scarab: Egyptian symbol of longevity and rebirth.

Company startup: January 1976

Owner of Scarab #1: Joseph Morrey

Number of production cars built: 200 to 300, Kits were also sold for around $1200.

Cost for conversion: $7,950 (1976)

Standard conversion upgrades: too many to list
I can cut and past the list if you want.

Options; Again, too many to list, can cut and paste as well

Scarab also put together a turbo version in 1980 (0-60 in 5.1 seconds) Cost: $35,000

Undoing of Scarab: Emissions Standards and recession of the early '80's

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Originally posted by zr240
The reson for this is I am tring to get it homoligated to run in our sports car series in Australia and the need proof that enough cars were made and what the engine,gearbox etc spec were. Any Info would be of great help

Thanks
Ash



Ash,
I think you may be pushing it uphill on this. For similar reasons that preclude the use of triple carbs. in Historic Racing.

Homlogation is provided by the factory, whereas Scarab was private concern. If they did have the body homlogated then it would be available thru the FIA, ask CAMS first for any further info.


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I'd like to see the original list of modifications and options. Can you go ahead and cut-paste them into a message?
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I will paste it in later tonight

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Here is most of it. I didn't brake down pricing, just listed what you got or coukd get:

Standard Features:
Drivetrain:
• Balanced, blueprinted Chevy 350 (300hp) smallblock with electronic ignition
• specially designed cross-flow radiator
• high-performance water pump
• flex fan to cool the 22-quart-capacity system
• Borg Warner Super T-10 4 speed with special Hurst competition shifter linkage
• complete exhaust system with a pair of glasspack mufflers

Suspension:
• Koni adjustable shocks
• front and rear sway bars
• Teflon compression strut bushings
• high-performance rack and pinion mounts
• and springs by Scarab
• torque control arm, it is essentially a quarter-inch-thick piece of steel bent into a U shape, with about 3/8” of rubber laid in the bottom of the U. Scarab installed it from beneath the front differential mount, bolting front and back into holes tapping into the metal framework of the differential insulator. The torque control arm minimized the forces on the mount and on the front end of the differential itself without totally eliminating the cushioning effects of the insulator like a solid mount would.

Brakes:
• Disc/Drum (power) with HP pads/shoes or optional FIA 4 piston calipers
• Later cars could be had with four-wheel discs, and those with drum brakes could have optional finned cast-iron drums

Interior:
• Door panels are soundproofed and covered in glove soft, hand-sewn Scottish leather
• Momo leather steering wheel
• Seats were re-padded and covered in Scottish leather and velour to match the door panels and console lid
• Deep pile carpeting

Exterior:
• Trans-Am front air dam, rear Trans-Am spoiler
• Twin exterior rally mirrors
• louvered hood and access panels
• Scarab logo with associated emblems
• high-speed driving lights
• All exterior Datsun badging was removed from the Scarab factory cars: the low production volume of these vehicles was highlighted by Scarab factory-specific badging that included raised Scarab lettering to replace the Datsun front fender nameplates, and Scarab Performance black-and-gold rectangular decals in the lower left corner of the windshield and the lower right corner of the rear hatch glass
heavy gold medallions containing the Egyptian Scarab Beetle emblem


Optional Features:
• Drivetrain:
• 350 SB (325 or 370hp naturally aspirated)
• Turbo (425hp)
• automatic transmission
• Limited slip differentials in R-180 or R-200

Brakes:
• four-wheel discs
• finned cast-iron drums

Interior:
• Recaro contoured, reclining bucket seats with headrests
• 12 coats of hand-rubbed lacquer

Exterior:
• whale tail
• reverse scoop hood with side fender louvers
• rectangular headlights
• flared fender packages
• rear window shade

Wheels:
• Cromodora Turbina wheels
• Campagnolo or Appliance Wheels
• BBS wheels
• Pirelli CN36 tires

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I have just finished sorting through a TON of Z stuff I got from someone on one of the boards I'm a member of and there is some Scarab info in there including some pix. Please feel free to look around at it and download what you want, here's the link (just scroll down to the Scarab directory): http://www.pape.ws/a...ne/Z-Car_Stuff/

This is not a pretty page, it's just a directory listing but there's a lot of good info, pix, and videos there.
'70 240Z - HLS30-08215 - Production Date 8/70
'70 240Z - HLS30-06293 - Rusty and has Identity Crisis (must have been wrecked and the back 1/2 sectioned in from a later car maybe even a 280Z)...PARTS CAR!
'71 240Z - HLS30-018482 - Production Date 1/71,Corvette Yellow, driven under a 4Runner, bought for parts, hit lotto with parts on car, may fix and put back on road

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I believe the Winter 2002 issue of Sport Z Magazine has an entire article on the Scarab (The Original 350Z). BTW the first few started out with 327ci engine. This is great reading on such a rare "Hybrid". It was known as the "Cobra of the 70's".

I would love to own an original Scarab like the one featured in the magazine.


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Vicky, I might have what your looking for. I would post a picture for you but I'm apparently technically challanged and can't seem to get it to poston this site. Mark

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The information I posted came from the magazine, I cut and pasted from the original file. Like I said there was a lot more but then I might as well have pasted the whole article. Attached is a nice picture of the car.

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Originally posted by genes
Vicky, I might have what your looking for. I would post a picture for you but I'm apparently technically challanged and can't seem to get it to poston this site. Mark


Please don't tell me you have an original early Scarab for sale.......do you? Or are you just saying you have some pictures to post.

I would give up my first born for a TRUE Scarab. (I have no children, except the 4 wheeled type known as Z Cars)

Vicky
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Vicky, I not sure what your referring to when you say an original Scarrab. I'm not really that familar with them. I have several digital pictures of my car if you want me to e-mail them to you. I also have all the original documentation including original invoice and correspondences. On the door jamb the vechile has the Scarrab I.D. plate. The production number is #133. Mark

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Originally posted by genes
Vicky, I not sure what your referring to when you say an original Scarrab. I'm not really that familar with them. I have several digital pictures of my car if you want me to e-mail them to you. I also have all the original documentation including original invoice and correspondences. On the door jamb the vechile has the Scarrab I.D. plate. The production number is #133. Mark


Well I'd read somewhere that after a few years of producing the cars the general public was able to by the badges but they didn't have the "Scarab" inscription. The original founder, Brian Morrow, would not recognize these has "his" hybrid. I'm guessing that they offered a "do it yourself" kit. I could be wrong as the mind does tend to fade with age, hehehe.

Heck yeah, I would love to see pics of your car!!!

Thanks

Vicky
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Vicky, Part of the paperwork I have is the original invoice where the car was sent to California in 1978 for the conversion. It has the leather interior, Recaro bucket seats, flared wheel wells, BBS racing rims, louvered hood and access panels, rear spoiler and front air dam, etc. I good fax you a copy of the invoice that lists the options. I'll need a e-mail addresss to send the pictures to.




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