26th-Z

The last time I saw one of those key blanks for sale it was extremely expensive.

Private yard, NASA employee, MGs...yea, that's the one. I forget exactly where it is, but near the airport. I was there about a year ago and didn't come home with much. There were some interesting things, but I wasn't that desperate and the place is a serious mess. It isn't kept up. There is a Triumph Spitfire in the front yard that once raced in the 24 hours of Daytona.

The Sanford yard is pretty spartan. Mostly RX-7s

Justin, The G-nose you refer to is the model HS30H produced between October 1971 and September 1973. It came with a 2.4 Liter (L24) and either a five speed or three speed auto transmission. G-nose spare parts were sold to service the model, but it was never an option for the other various models. The 240ZG also came in the special maroon color. The model was not exported to America.

Hey there JTZ23. Guys, I got a great idea. The ClassicZ Golden Z award for best film etc. for the year. Carl, you are right. U-Tube is just going to get bigger. How many really great videos have we seen in the last year? Remember the Dutch guys who bought that rust-free Z on ebay and made that bizzare film about restoring it? We could set up an account, nominate videos, and vote for best-of various categories like best music, best cinematography, best edit, best nude women, etc. Every year, we could have a showing and vote; awarding a certificate from the club to the authors. Waddaya Thunk?

Nissan produced various body modification parts during the early '70s for racing homoligation purposes and the term "wide body" is used in American slang context. In all probablity, the ebay car is made up of aftermarket parts. To some extent, our cars are so old that aftermarket parts are considered rare. Let me share what little I know about the real Nissan stuff. At the time the Z was introduced, a series of "Sports Option" parts became available and were published in Sports Option catalogs. In America, the sports option parts were sold through the Datsun USA Competition department. The earliest Datsun competition catalogs date back to the roadster and 510. The Nissan Sports Option catalogs included many items for the S30 - Z - exclusively including engine and transmission parts, suspension parts, seats, roll bars, you-name-it, and body parts such as fender flares, spooks and spoilers. I most usually associate the fender flares on the ebay car with flare kits Nissan sold for the HS30-H. Those pieces included fender flares and front spook / air dam components. Fender flares from Nissan came in two sizes and I think MSA sell pretty good repros of the smaller flares. All of the authentic Nissan pieces I have seen are made of the FRP material we know from the early headlight scoops and were mechanically fastened to the body with rivets, screws or bolts. Having said all this, let me point out that there are many threads on this site discussing this very subject and the guy with the most information is "HS30-H". A search through the archives should reveal a wide range of discussions and has been the source for all the information I have collected. Other references I might suggest include Pete Evanow's book; "35 Years of Datsun's Sports Car" and Brian Long's; "Datsun Z".

And if you do, Mike, this is probably what that can of paint may look like. Not saying it definitely will look like this, but it may. This is for color 112 and who knows what it would be for the charcoal. But hey!

Here are a couple more model kits I have. Most of my kits were bought in Japan.

Big fan of kit models

I'm not trying to degrade your car either, Jim. I'm just trying to keep the playing field even and factual based. One thing I HAVE learned about Zeds is that every time something certain is established, the exception pops up. If the colors aren't the same, then what colors are they? We all seem to agree that Les has established a facsimile of "correctness", however if it is for only a certain application, then what is "correct" for the other? And to what years does this apply? Furthermore, is there an explanation why two different "colors" were used? (Actually, I think we are talking about tone / value, not color) (edit) Oh! I believe the paint is lacquer, Will. Not enamel.

Jim, Your car was a wonderful example but as we both know was NOT all original. I think you may be misrepresenting your example. The original question had to do with what color, not speculation on different colors. With all due respect, I would ask that the conversation drift more toward the fact side of the issue rather than the subjective. What specific color? A color code might be in order. Chris

Yes, Marty. 26th, 27th, and 403rd have the rubber grommet type. Part number 75150-E4101. Part number 75150-E8700 replaces the early type and no date is given because it can be used for all models. According to pictures in my Japanese parts books, the early type of shift boot with the rubber grommet coresponds to the console design with the early style ash tray. Consoles with the sliding cover ash tray were designed for the lace type (E8700).

The early shift boot has the rubber grommet and it was replaced by the shift boot with leather laces. Now, as much as ladies of driving pleasure enjoy lace, we ARE talking about the stick and it deserves a good solid rubber!

Here you go, Burt. This is a crop and enlargement of the 1970 dealer brochure showing a match in color. I am in negotiations to buy the original art work for this brochure. I remember using this information during a conversation about the color of distributor caps. Makes it kind of hard to argue the different color thing. BTW, Burt, if you aren't Burt, prove it. Lets see a picture of your car Burt. I thought you were kicked off this site and I will thank you to not send me nasty PMs in disguise as your crack.

Here you go, Burt. Give this to the guy. This is a crop and enlargement of the 1970 dealer brochure showing a match in color. I am in negotiations to buy the original art work for this brochure. I remember using this information during a conversation about the color of distributor caps. Makes it kind of hard to argue the different color thing. BTW, Burt, if you aren't Burt, prove it. Lets see a picture of your car Burt. I thought you were kicked off this site and I will thank you to not send me nasty PMs in disguise as your crack.

I agree although I don't see why the part would be different. The difference between the two pictures is just one is an innie and one is an outie.

Mckrack IS the idiot, Burt Diamond! He's just trying to start another one of the "cardogman" arguments. Same deal with the shift boot thread. I thought you were kicked off this site, Burt.

Oscillator for the two knob rally clock please!

A used original is proabably worth no more than a new aftermarket. It all depends on the condition. The last price I heard (well over a year ago) for a new original was $1,000.

Congrats, Alan!

You still looking Victor? Sounds like me and women!

Yes it will fit and it is extremely valuable in America. I have a friend with a 2 liter looking for one of these and I will gladly trade you a 2400 valve cover for it. PM me. Chris

Thanks for the update! I'm a big fan of the paint codes page and you did a great job putting it together in the first place!

Ok! I'll get back to the topic after a comment about 26th and matching numbers. 26th was supposedly built in 11/69 and she was delivered on 4/70 with engine number 2338. I have all the papers. 27th has no papers but was supposedly built in 10/69 and her engine number is 2162. Splane that one, Datsunites! I say "supposedly" because that is the date on the door jamb tag. The engine bay tag lists the chassis serial number as well as the engine number and "matching numbers" means that the number stamped on the block and the number stamped on the firewall match the tag in the engine bay. Engine numbers don't match chassis numbers. Will, I am always hard pressed to put application dates on these parts. About the best I can seem to do is associate early and late. But your idea could be a thesis project! I can think of all sorts of parts. There is a third type of seat belt hook; a metal one covered in black plastic. How about the rubber hood adjustment bumbers? Early chrome Z quarter panel emblems - hollow and solid cast. I think you can still buy coat hook buttons from http://www.z-tekmfg.com/cat1.html Great project! Do I understand this correctly; these parts all have the same part #?

I believe windshields from Nissan are no longer available. The last one I saw came from Japan at around $1,000 delivered.