Everything posted by HS30-H
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Spoilers..Help Needed
The pictures that 26thZ posted are of the Factory "Euro" spoiler and its dedicated front valance panel. The corner valance panels were also fitted with captives when this spoiler was fitted as standard equipment. They came on all but the very first of the UK-market HS30 cars, and continued through the RS30 models. The Factory parts lists describe it as a "Europe" model part, and I know that other countries apart from the UK had them - but I'm not 100% sure if it was all of them. Certainly the UK models had the spoiler from early 1971. I know there were subtle differences across the years of production, but essentially they stayed the same. Factory parts list description called it "98300-E8100 ASSY-FRONT AIR SPOILER". I've scanned some pages from the parts lists so that you can see how they showed it. I've also scanned the pages that describe the companion Valance panels, which you will see have superceding numbers too. The spoiler was made from an expanded Urethane foam material, with the steel mounting brackets cast into it. It looks like rubber and has a smooth outer surface, but when you cut into it you see small bubbles in the material. The problem ( especially for the UK and its weather ) was that the cast-in brackets tended to go rusty and swell up inside the body of the spoiler, and eventually cracked it. Apart from that, the Urethane became brittle over time and started to contract and expand - making it look a funny shape. They are fairly hard to find in good used condition, and I believe that NOS items that anybody has tucked away are now going to start commanding higher prices. I have friends in Japan who have asked me for these spoilers in the past and supply here in the UK has just about dried up. I have not seen a new one for ages. Alan T. ( Here's a pic from the parts list ):
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rb20 in 280
Rob's a good friend of mine. His site is fantastic, isn't it? That's pretty-much all self-built and self-written. Amazing. He's slowed down a bit with it over the last year or so. Pressure of work and other commitments ( read; LIFE ). I'll scan some pics up for you and post them. Nissan were VERY secretive about the engine and tried to stop anybody getting a good shot of it at the '66 Japan GP. I've seen pics of what's left of the engine, and its very interesting. I hope it will end up in a proper museum one day. All the best, Alan T.
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rb20 in 280
Hi Victor, I didn't know you had an interest in that car. In Japan, it was always called the "Fairlady S". I don't know who said that the engine was a 'prototype' of the S20 engine seen - apart from in the GT-R - in the 432? The engine of the Fairlady S was coded "UY" and it was badged as a Nissan. It was indeed a 2 Litre DOHC six with hemi chambers, but it was a 12-plug design. It was a Nissan in-house development. The S20 engine on the other hand had Prince blood in its veins. It essentially evolved from the Prince GR-8 engine used in the R380 Sports racers, but was re-designed for its first use in the PGC10 Skyline GT-R. The GR-8 had quite a different distributor drive setup from the S20. On the GR-8, drive for its twin distributors came off of the front end of each camshaft. For the S20, a single distributor was used at a right-angle to the cams. This took its drive from a sprocket rolling off the cam chain. There were other differences in the water and oil pump drive layouts too. When Prince merged with Nissan, it was the Prince design rather than the Nissan "UY" that was chosen to provide the basis for the new Nissan-badged powerplant. This went into the top of the range Skyline - the new GT-R. The "UY" was rather troublesome, and lacked development. When it appeared in the Fairlady S the merger with Prince was already on the cards, and it could be seen that Nissan would be inheriting an already-formed and fairly successful race department from Prince. Its clear that this is one of the reasons why the "UY" was not developed further. The Fairlady S was a VERY trick Fairlady indeed. Got any pics Victor? Regards, Alan T. ( PS - sorry to pull the thread off topic ).
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Rally shocks
If anyone is intending to do some serious ( ie - Gravel or Forest stage ) rallying with an early Z car, they would be well advised to give ANY oil-filled damper a wide berth. The pummelling they receive on this kind of surface overheats the oil in no time at all, and the resultant loss of performance is usually enough to cause enough damage to the internals to mean its rebuild time........... I've heard of Koni, and other brands of oil-filled dampers, being totally useless even before the end of ONE rough British forest stage - let alone a whole event. The Factory rally cars used gas, and I would recommend that as the way to go. Oil-filled dampers are fine for most tarmac stages, and of course are OK on the circuits too, but proper ROUGH stage rallies cause them to fail very quickly. Alan T.
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Start them early!
I want! Somebody has put their grandmother to good use. Now I know what I want for Christmas. Well spotted Lachlan!
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Progress......
Hi Michael, Actually it looks better in the photos than it really is. After the car was painted I decided that I wanted the underside to be a bit cleaner - so I started stripping off the layers of paint and underseal that were still left in some areas, and got back to bare metal. I then hand-painted with anti-rust primer and I have hand-painted a layer or two of two-pack acrylic in body colour underneath the front wings ( fenders ) and arches. Its not perfect ( I didn't aim for perfection, and sure enough I didn't get near it! ) but it should protect the area and still give an impression of a Factory finish from a distance. For the rear, I'm now stripping that too. However, its a lot more difficult back there and I think I'll only body-colour the rear inner arches and put underseal everywhere else. At the moment its all much too shiny and new-looking for my tastes! All the best, Alan T.
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works_g_nose
Sorry to be picky, but to me the word "Works" means Factory-built or Factory-supplied. This does not look the same shape as the Factory "Works" 240ZR G-Nose aero package in either Type A or Type B form. The lower valance panel style looks much later in style, and very similar to the Japanese aftermarket G-noses which became more popular in the late Seventies and early Eighties. Surely this is an aftermarket item, and not a true "Works" item or even a replica of a "Works" item? The Overfenders look very similar to the 240ZR type B ( extra wide ) items though..............
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S20 cylinder head
Hi, Yes it was carburated in production form ( 3 x 40PHH Mikuni Solexes ) and used bigger carbs in Factory race form ( 44PHH Mikunis & 45 and 48DCOE Webers ) as well as Lucas sliding-throttle injection and the Nissan ECGI race injection setup. None of these engines were officially exported outside Japan in any production model.
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S20 Con Rod
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Con Rod from S20 engine. -
S20 Con Rod
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Con Rod from S20 engine. -
S20 piston
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Piston from S20 engine. -
S20 piston
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Piston from S20 engine. -
S20 cylinder head
Hi Dave, Yes, the S20 pistons are shaped to the combustion chambers. They are not really 'domed' in the true sense of the word - as its more of a peak than a rounded shape. As a picture saves a thousand words, I'll take some photos of a piston and post it here too. Stand by.
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"Works" Rally Mags
I'll probably paint them in a satin black finish or a very dark gunmetal grey. I'd rather paint them as I've had some weird things happening with powdercoating over Magnesium in the past. I have to put SOME kind of covering on them, as the Magnesium just oxidises and goes fluffy if exposed to the elements. I don't want them to look TOO pefect though. This is not going to be any kind of concours car.........
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S20 cylinder head
Yes Halz, the LY was only a two-valve ( single cam ) design, but it did have hemispherical chambers.
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Weird set of Tokico's...
20 inch wooden wheels? They will mess up your gear ratios you know.
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S20 cylinder head
Hi Mike, Well it IS a cross-flow layout - but its not the famous "LY" Nissan L-series Crossflow head. This is the head from an S20 twin cam engine ( as fitted to the 432 and 432R, and the PGC10, KPGC10 and KPGC110 Skyline GT-Rs ). The engine will have a full rebuild before going into my 432R replica project car. Sorry to say that it will NOT fit on an L-series block.
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S20 cylinder head
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
S20 cylinder head, removed for reconditioning. -
S20 cylinder head
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
S20 cylinder head, removed for reconditioning. -
"Works" Rally Mags
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Stripped back to bare Magnesium - "Works" Rally Mag wheels. -
Progress.......
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Peeping through the left-hand headlamp hole....... -
Progress......
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Peeping through the right-hand headlamp hole......... -
progress.......
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Up on stands in the garage for the messy work underneath..... -
progress.....
From the album: Fairlady Z432-R replica project
Stripped and painted inner arches. -
Why Nissan Fairlady Z
My fender mount mirror positioning dimensions in the above file attachment only apply to an S30-series Z. Since this thread concerns an S130 series Z, its worth pointing out that they are NOT the same................ Alan T.