AZ-240z

I just bought a pair of original. early 240z sunvisors. After 30+ years of sun exposure, the padding inside has, of course, sagged and pulled them out of shape, but the material and everything else is in great shape. Has anyone thought of, or attempted to open these up some way to replace the inner padding? Any good ideas how one might attempt to do this and then close them back up to look new, again? Thils club has a good collective brain trust, so I appreciate any ideas you may come up with. I'm one of those restore to original guys, but this might be a bit too optimistic to think that this could be done with good results. Thanks for your thoughts. Dan Original owner, hls30-20419 1/71 240Z IZCC# 12324

Mike, The clear washer looks good. The bottom of the washer is flat, and the top is rounded off on the outside and inside edges, like an upside down U shape. The screws are black oval countersunk phillips heads and are about 1/2 inch long. Hope that helps if you are going for total originality. I know, I'm a purist geek. Dan

Mike, If those clips are about 1 and 3/4 inches long, and they appear to be, they do mount in the lower quarter window holes with a machine screw. Check 26th-Z's post above for the site reference for a picture of the clear washer and screw. Dan

26th-Z Did you happen to check to part # stampings on your alternators. Could you PM me if you have a minute. Thanks. Dan

Hi Mike, First, tell me what the production date is for your car. Is it a series 1 with the vents in the rear hatch? Next, how long are the seat belt hooks? There were two different kinds, one kind that mounted on the seat back outside edge were about 1 and 1/4 inches long were for series 1 cars. The other, about 1 and 3/4 inches long for the series 11 cars were mounted with a screw in the lower quarter window hole you spoke of. The middle hole in the quarter window trim was for a screw and clear plastic washer that helped secure the trim. Let me know which car you have and I'll try to help clarify what I have just said, if needed. Dan Original owner HLS30-20419 1/71 240Z IZCC #12324

Hello all, I guess I'll put my two cents worth in, and echo deadflo's data. I am the original owner of hls30-20419 with a build date of 1/71. The engine # is L24 - 027116, the block is cast P30 with the code adjacent to the P30 of 1616L. I hope someone eventually breaks this code; I am intrigued with what Kats, Carl, and all have to say in deciphering it. Great thread. Dan IZCC# 12324

Hi Bob M, I'll probably get slammed by someone with more knowledge, but, for early 69, 70, & 71 z's, only a few were delivery in North America with splash pans. The vast majority came without pans and rad. fan shrouds. I believe, when A/C was factory installed in 73 cars, fan shrouds and splash pans were somewhat standard, for better engine cooling air flow control. There is probably more accurate info if you check out the search function for past threads. Hope that helps. Dan

Hi Joseph, Sorry I didn't see your reply sooner. I am certain the early 240 had 5mm shafts and 8mm wrench heads. I really haven't seen those, but the 280 machine screws have a hex head with phillips cross slot, and the finish appears to be a clear or silver cad plate. I am assuming that those for the early 240 are very similar. I've checked with nissan and they have not found any similar in that size. They also have a flat washer that is permanently attached , or fender washer. If I have any success, I will get back to this thread. Dan

Hey Robert Not crazy, just addicted. I hope to finally make a meeting. I'll let you know. I may be wrong, but the screws for a 280 splash pan I believe are 6mm with a 10mm head. for some reason, they changed sizes, but I could be wrong. I would certainly like to see what you have though. Dan

I need a little help. I have a series 1 made in 1/71 and have the splash pan, but need the original machine screws which have 5mm shafts, 1.0 pitch, and 8mm head. There are nine screws. Anyone have a spare set they are willing to sell? It's the little stuff thats a bear to find. Thanks for any help. Dan Original owner, 240Z hls30-20419 IZCC# 12324

Thanks Bob, That was my thinking on the black color shades. I am concentrating on the list of dings from last years show. Got the stock exhaust to install, metal rad fan and fan clutch which I am restoring, looking for jute source for carpet insulation, 40 amp alternator, and the list goes on. Stock class is nuts, but a fun challenge. I'm aiming for Texas in 2006. Dan

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Hello Zulaytr, I'm the guy that goes went first or second against you at the shows last year. I appreciate the input and am trying to make my orange z your equal ( I have a long way to go). I found a metal shroud and need to paint it along with the radiator. In your research, do you believe that the radiator is, also, painted a satin (almost gloss) black to match the shroud. My memory won,t go back 34 years accurately. Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try to find some pictures of your car from the show. Dan Original Owner, 1/71 240Z hls30-20419 IZCC#12324

Hello Zulaytr, I'm the guy that goes went first or second against you at the shows last year. I appreciate the input and am trying to make my car orange z your equal ( I have a long way to go). I found a metal shroud and need to paint it along with the radiator. In your research, do you believe that the radiator is, also, painted a satin (almost gloss) black to match the shroud. My memory won,t go back 34 years accurately. Thanks for your thoughts and I'll try to find some pictures of your car from the show. Dan Original Owner, 1/71 240Z hls30-20419 IZCC#12324

Thanks for your input, Ron. I, too, am the original owner of my 1/71 car, which is now only for club activities and shows. As I live in Phoenix, I have need for the shroud and splash pan, as they definitly keep her cooler. My interest is in correctness in stock class, and that appears to still be in the defining stages. Items can be removed when needed, to be correctly stock. There is growing interest in stock, original cars as witnessed by 26TH-Z and Kats. Did you have any thoughts on the color of the fan shroud, Ron?

Please forgive any errors made in posting this, as this is my first attempt at a new thread. I am restoring my 1/71 series 1 to original, and, although my car was dealer delivered without the shroud, I do have dealer installed York A/C. I have a metal shroud and need to paint it the correct black,. ie, matt, semi, or gloss black. Anyone know the correct color? The radiator, I am assuming from factory pictures, is gloss black. Thanks, and I hope to be more of a hands on participant on this terrific sight. There are many knowledgable people here, and the bias is to maintaining the classic 240. Dan 1/71 240z hls30-20419 IZCC# 12324

I have research old archives for an answer, but came up empty. Does anyone know the shade of black used on factory early metal fan shrouds? The radiator is gloss black, but is the shroud matt, semi, or gloss black? 26th-Z, if you see this, you may have an answer, as your research is always pretty accurate. I am going for as close to 100% original as possible on a series 1 that I bought new, but without a shroud. Thanks in advance for your thoughts on this. Dan IZCC# 12324 1/71 240Z hls30 20419

Just a thought about that dash. I had talked to Pierre of Pierre Z about availability of dashed for the "Restoration Project". He had told me that since the availability of NOS series 1 dashed had dried up, he was forced to use later dashes. The covered lighter hole is the way those dashes came in the box. I used one in my series 1 car for the same reason. I am sure that it is not a restored dash, but NOS. Dan Original owner HLS30 20419 Restored to original

Hi Kats, Just some information on the oil pressure sending unit, in the back of Wick Humble's book, if you have that, on restoring a 240-z, (I don't have the book with me or I would give you a reference page), he gives all of the part numbers, and explains which oil pressure gages go with which sending units. Hope this helps. Dan _______________ 1971 Series 1 240-Z HLS30-20419 L24-027116

26th-Z Talked to you briefly at the 2004 nationals, the guy you had kind words for who go 2nd in stock class. Anyway, are these alternators you are discussing with Kats the grapefruit sectioned 45A early alternators, and did you have Nissan to the restore? I have been trying to find one for some time. Dan HLS30-20419

Hello AlternativeZ, I'm looking for an alternator from an eary series 1 which was the 12V-40A and the back of the housing looked like half a grapefruit (radial sections). If something like that is decorating your garage, let me know. Dan AZ-240Z

Thanks 2manyzs and Bambikiller240. Thats a big help. I'll check out the part numbers and see what else Chloe can do for me. My car is basically done, but with inspiration from Kats, I my never finish trying to make it perfect. I hope its not a curse, because I am having way too much fun.

Hi group, I read posts daily but, 'till now, haven't participated much. I have an early '71 Z, pretty much restored to (concours?) original and need a resource for the plastic fasteners that hold the front rubber door/window post seals to door body. Also, need the fasteners to attach the lower door rubber splash guards to bottom of doors. If anyone can lead me to a source for these fasteners, it would be greatly appreciated. While I am here, does anyone have the small seals that fit in the upper foreward corner of the quarter windows? They are a small rubber, T-shaped seal that seals the upper rear corner of the door window frames and the upper forward corner of the quarter windows. I realize that I am a Z-fanatic, and hope to find others just as plagued. Thanks for listening and any help that this list may offer. Dan

Thanks 2manyzs You have helped many on this site, and I greatly appreciate your adding my name to that list.