thoughts on my new idea :)

[Walkingpig]

Heya agian guys, 2 thought provokers for everyone to share their opinion on

my 240z -

decided on 350z Blue color as the paint

Considering 1 or 2 silver stripes down the length of the car, seen a few Z's like that and liked it

what do you think?

(given the bonnet vents will be chromed etc)

any suggestions as to ideas with the paint etc are quite welcome

at the same time here's another question

since i cant be bothered going all out on an rb26dett and having no money for the rest of my uni life....

i've decided RB20DET, but have heard mention that the (heracy coming) - 4cyl SR20DET is a lighter and better motor..

Is this true, which should i go for out of THOSE 2!!!!

all opinions welcome

[That Ozzy Guy]

I'd go one silver stripe about 6 inches wide on the opposite side of the drivers side. ie. not in the middle of the car.

I'd like a screaming SR20 over an RB. The SR engines have been proven over and over and can handle double the stock power output with little (if none at all) internal strengthening.

Having said that, bugger both those engines and get a V8. Cheap as chips and hell-of-alot-of fun.

[v12horse]

Hey Ozzy, if you look in my gallery you will see a 240 with an SR20det. I don't know much about the engine, but I saw a 510 with 0ne of these motors and I think it was pumping about 310 hp at the flywheel with no internal mods. Just a acu, turbo, and exhaust. The only problem I have with the SR20det is that there is so much wasted room under the Z bonnet.

Just get a 3.1 L-series with triple mikuni's. You could get 300hp easy with that engine and there would be little to none fabrication to make the engine fit.

Good luck with your car.

-Ben

[Gav240z]

Stick with the NA L engine. I went driving tonight with a couple of Z friends here in Melbourne and you shoulda seen this 240z with an NA L engine scream he said you could do it for around $3000.

Point is don't write off the L engine just yet.

[Walkingpig]

Hey men, sorry, cookies or something are playing up at home, can't get anywhere cos it signs me out as soon as i load a new page?

as for the L series engine - haven't ruled it out

but its been port and polished, l28 something to do with fuel(240z carbs)

mild cam job, balanced and lightened flywheel...

so i assume things get expensive from there on, and its an older heavier engine

as for the paint - Ozzguy i'll get some concepts done my drawing tool (girls do ahve a use (no offence girls)

sounds interesting!

and as for the SR, what can an SR handle stock, i have a mate with a stock internally Rb20DET that just ran 260rwKW! on the DDDYNO

so shrug,

[zed240au]

Local guy was running an sr 20 in a 200sx for targa was pumping out 524 hp with stock crank had good pistons and other stuff but kept snapping cranks

Mick

[Ivan]

Originally posted by Walkingpig

what do you think?

(given the bonnet vents will be chromed etc)

have you put a 280's bonnet on? - I personaly think it looks better with no vents (i.e. a 240 bonnet)

the colour looks nice on the 350 so it should look even better on a 240

and personally I would go with the RB as I don't like 4 bangers but you mentioned not having much money so be ready to spend around $5000 - $10000 for the conversion

[thefastestz]

have you given thought to the L28et 280zx turbo engine?

[drunkenmaster]

I have an L28ET which is very hard to source as a whole in Australia, I had to get the manifolds seperate. Its not like the US where you can pick them up in junkyards as they were never released here and importers to not carry them.

As for the vented bonnet, I like the smooth look of the non-fluted/vented bonnet much better but Im wondering if the heat extraction provided may prove to be a necessity on a turbo motor.

[zedhead]

i like the idea;

not sure bout the vents, however i have often regarded a deep metalic blue with well matched silver stripes to be one of my favorit colours for a z. that or a silver z with black stripes. However i have spent three years dreaming and still dont have a z yet. ....ill get there one day though

james

melb,aus

[That Ozzy Guy]

1 vent isn't so bad...

...as long as a supercharger is sticking out of it.:devious:

[HKSZ]

Another option is to vent your battery & washer flaps, keeping a second painted up pair so you can change back in minutes.

[1 Bravo 6]

:cheeky: :cheeky: :cheeky:

Just a suggestion, but have you thought of going with chamelion ?

The bloke who did the paint job on "Precious" tried hard to talk me intodoing her in Bronze chamelion. Samples looked FANTASTIC !!!!!!!!! but I just couldn't afford it.

As he said, most cars you see that used chamelion don't show the paintwork to it's best advantage as they have so many flat panels but as the Zed bodywork is all curves it would show the paint to it's best advantage.

It would want to at a THOUSAND BUCKS A LITRE.

Rick.

[That Ozzy Guy]

Do you mean a pearl paint job Rick or is chamelion something different altogether?

[HKSZ]

I think its called Harlequin and changes 7 times between bronze and violet because of refracting diamond particles in the paint. Probably explains why its so damn exspensive

[1 Bravo 6]

G'Day there George,

The paint job on "Precious" has a gold pearl over the bronze which makes it SPARKLE in the sun.

Mate, you've no doubt seen those paint jobs that change colour as you walk past it?.

If I'd done "Precious" in a Bronze chamelion, she would have looked like a rainbow going past.

When we placed the sample strip in the headlight well and running up onto the edge of the bonnet the colour change was dramatic. It had greens, blues, reds and bronze hues fading into each other. MAGNIFICENT !!!!!

Rick.

[zedhead]

ey all,

Harlequin and chameleon are both brands of paint that "change colour" very expensive stuff. I feel that the best results are achieved when only a few colours are used. However a personal favourite technique is call marbleizing I think. Hopefully ill be learning how to do it in the next few months.

Couldnt find and example of marbalizing however im pretty sure the stang has a similar concept to harlequin paint.

james

[zedhead]

no the best example or Marbleizing

[carguyinok]

Harlequin and chameleon are both brands of paint that "change colour" very expensive stuff.

Yes, it is. This stuff is so cool when used proper. The color change paint is spendy for a reason. The main key of this paint is microfische (microfish) :stupid: It gets ground up into a powder as fine as babypowder and mixed with what will be the top coat.

First the car will be painted with a dark base. Then the color change part gose over the top of that.

I have always loved the looks you can get with color change paint BUT I would not paint a whole car with it. This is just IMO.

I dont feel it was ever ment for the whole car other then trailer queen street rods. I would use it for a cool looking stripe job or some bad azz flames. I have seen it used for a flame job and WOW it was COOL. The flames looked like they would move around the car:love:

I also have a few buddys that are into there lowriders. One has a 63 chevy pick-up low rider with the marble style paint. Looks real cool just dont damage it!!!!!! You will never match it:disappoin

[carguyinok]

Sorry, I was wrong on the Microfische...... Microfilm is whats used.

:stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: It was early and I needed my coffee. :cheeky:

[zed240au]

the picture of the mustang looks more like candy apple red to me it was huge back in the 70s and 80s had to paint the car with silver or other metalic then paint the candy over the top look so good but car had to be super straight showed any dents like dogs balls

cant say ive seen the chameleon paint in a red the two ive seen are the bronze purple and a silver green really liked the silver green

I agree with a comment earlier though think this paint is better for highlighting rather than full car.

Mick

[drunkenmaster]

Originally posted by 1 Bravo 6

G'Day there George,

The paint job on "Precious" has a gold pearl over the bronze which makes it SPARKLE in the sun.

I just looked in your gallery and I saw a car identical to yours in Melboure over the weekend, looked very tidy, identical colour and all. Was tempted to leave the ol' "do you wanna sell?" note on the windscreen.

[That Ozzy Guy]

I was at the Hot Rod show here in Sydney last month and House of Kolor had a rather huge exhibit (being sponsors and all) and their samples looked fantastic to say the least. Some cars featured their work and it is without a doubt amazing but would you get a daily driver painted like that? Never. Even a weekender? I wouldn't. I can just imagine a jelous idiot scrathing your car on purpose. Ka ching, there goes $4000 redoing the pannel/s.

carguyinok said it, it's only for trailer queen rods.

[Walkingpig]

Thanks for all that OFF TOPIC CRAP, nah just kidding its all good and i enjoyed reading all of that

so yes, looks like bloke is making up lots of panels, except for the rust inside the rear 1/4? in front of the rear tires

which is going to be a killer for the wallet!!! eeeeeeeeek

so now i really have to decide whether to go with the silver stripe idea or not!

if i go one stripe... should it be as wide as the bump in the bonnet? or should there be two, thats outsides are over it leaving a gap down the middle

scarey stuff!, maybe i should forget the stripe

anyways, thanks for all the help, Charles

[drunkenmaster]

I think http://www.zworx.com.au/ fabricate the small panel your talking about.