Ah, so that is where the smoke is coming from..........

Does anyone else see a bent rear control arm, a crinkled fender, and ...

a straight unibody?

Maybe a jammed door requiring a sawzall?

If this accident happened at a race track, the car would be repaired (and of course the roof would have never been cut off).

Get it out of your head that this photo was the result of some speed induced mayhem where the car was torn to bits (every single person is guilty). There are plenty of good examples of how rapid deceleration can kill, this just happens to be a terrible one.

In fact, this picture may even lead to a false sense of security for people who might think this was a bad accident, requiring the jaws of life (NHTSA scare tactic version of the word sawzall), yet the unibody appears untweaked.

Its always hard to argue in favour of 'speeding', whatever that may involve in a particular context. I'd rather argue that the maximum speed you should be travelling at depends on the circumstances, merely going faster than is usual is not necessarily excessively dangerous.

People get killed on the road in all sorts of situations, a lot of which may not be caused by excessive speed at all. There is a certain amount of brainwashing about 'speeding', often to justify revenue raising fines and to distract attention from poor roads.

Certainly using a race track is a good idea but there are not many of them around and it can be quite expensive. Driving sensibly within your skill limits is the key, how fast that may be depends on the circumstances.

Well said Richard....

I so wish this thread would go away.

I so wish this thread would go away.

I her'd dat!

you damn right!

This Dead Horse Is About A Month Dead . Let It Rot In Pease !

You smell something dead in hear?

i can only add this animated GIF

Speaking of dead horses, has anyone run into one? Errr, well maybe run into a live one which then............................