HS30-H

Known to challenge The Hackenthorpe Book Of Lies for top dog status.

As discussed elsewhere: https://zclub.net/community/index.php?threads/super-samuri-collecting-cars-gaw-105m.32250/

So what was "Hmmmm" (five letters, since we are stickling...) intended to mean? I'm looking at it in the context of your previous comments, such as: In amongst all the negative comments about S30.World and their work on this thread, from where I'm sitting it looks like you're trying to hint at something without actually saying it. You want to have your cake and eat it, don't you? Always 'more on this later', but never actually committing to any tangible opinion. You tell us that you've had a working relationship with the owner of the company in question for "many years", and yet I've not seen you make a single post or comment in their support while all and sundry were posting uninformed nonsense about them here and dissing their work. Hmmmm indeed. I think I've got your number. On the other hand, you might well want to be careful about associating yourself with S30.World on here. After all, our friend SpeedRoo might call you a "so-called expert" and Zed Head will be asking you if payola is involved.

Delay is due to paperwork-related logistics issues. A lot of my own work involves international shipments, so I have some sympathy when I hear of paperwork going missing in transit. And as someone who mistook a movement docket for a 'Factory Build Sheet', I trust you'll have just as much sympathy for 'Lost In Transit' as 'Lost In Translation'...

Ha ha. This is the world of used car sales we are talking about here. You even presume that the seller knows everything about the car? That's your schtick. Own it. Don't make me laugh. Last week you were dissing the staff and work of S30.World on this thread for all you were worth - whilst demonstrating at the same time that you knew nothing about them ("just seling car parts") - and then when the boss and a few other well-respected 'consultants' show up and post here in reply you're suddenly the wide-mouthed frog adding 'likes' to their posts. How come you didn't ask a few of them whether they had "stock options", a "paying position" or are "on the board"? Anyone with any sense can see how you operate.

A buyer - or anyone else - might assume anything at all, right or wrong. But you're already on the head of that pin, positing that provenance is either important or unimportant, with no mention of the pragmatism required when dealing with 55 year old cars existing in the huge gap between those two positions. And if changing paint stickers 'removes provenance' then every car with a repro sticker - no matter if it has just the right amount of shine - is a demerit. ...and reductio ad absurdum. Ask zspert about his "alternates created of all the things that collectors usually inspect for originality". Originality is nice, but its not an infinite resource. It is necessary - for the continuation of our hobby - to repair and replace. There are industries dedicated to that end. There's not a car owned by the members of this site that would be an example of total originality. It is an impossibility and your theory is nonsense, even hypothetically.

I've got a hunch - just a feeling in my bones - that the paint is not 'Amino Alkyd Enamel' either. "False advertising"? Seriously? The repro paint sticker matches the re-paint and colour change. Do you think they should have used a sticker for the original green instead? Some of the nitpicking here is beyond parody. Not immune to the occasional malapropism, however.

But why do you expect to see detailed photos of a commercial, industrial process over and above the few PR photos that Nissan chose to show us? They gave us plenty of information about the product itself and a fair bit of information about the company and its various operations. As far as Nissan are concerned, anything more than that is really none of our business.

None that I'd break a promise and post here.

Nissan's L24 engines were put together in the same place as the S30 L20A engines, the aforementioned main Yokohama plant. They have a Nissan Engine Museum in one of the original 1930s buildings still standing, adjacent to the main plant in Takara Cho. Recommended for a visit. The point being you are asking for photos of the "240Z assembly line" but showing a photo a photo of a quite different location. Many of the component parts and sub-assemblies of 'our' cars were made in plants elsewhere, then put together at Nissan Shatai Koki's facility in Hiratsuka.

This is the engine fire-up test section of Nissan's main Yokohama plant and the engines shown are non-Z variants. It is not the Nissan Shatai plant at Hiratsuka, which put together the S30-series Zs.

...and the photo comes from the FIA 3022 fiche, which is for the S30 Fairlady Z-S and Z-L, so not on the "240Z assembly line". It was the S30-series Z assembly line.

As discussed in the thread where the photo was Hoovered from: https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/68900-finally-found-a-69-240z-51-time-to-finish-a-30-year-multiple-owner-restoration/page/16/

Are you going to ask these same questions to anyone else now?

Hi Nils, A name on that Swiss dealer list jumped straight out at me. I believe Rudolf Seiler of Fischbach was the brother of Ernst 'Hunter' Seiler of Romanshorn, a well-known Porsche dealer and racing driver from the late 1940s through to the late 60s. I guess car sales concessions ran in the family. Sorry for the digression!