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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration

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    12 minutes ago, grannyknot said:

    Rich, I took inspiration from you but had to bring out the big guns, BFA?

     

    That'll work :-)

    Also, thanks all for the wiper bag sources.  Will check those out.

     

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    On February 3, 2017 at 1:05 PM, motorman7 said:

    Hi Zedyone,

           The sides of the square channel seem to straighten out nicely as they are 'massaged' into shape, removing some of the 'kinks'.  The center part still needs to be cleaned up with the slide hammer as they are still dented inwards.  As you noted, it is covered from the inside and I do not want to put any holes in the floorboard, so I will use the slide hammer.   I did this on my '71 and it came out pretty well.  I know it seems odd cleaning up the underside of the Z, but when I look at any Z it is one of the first areas I check.  Clean frame rails are hard to find now-a-days.  

    Rich

    Just a thought - If it was my car - and the frame rails looked as good as they do in the pictures - I'd think seriously about putting a couple holes in the floorboards. Then spray them inside with POR-15... I'd rather have a couple extra rubber plugs in the floor boards than future rust coming though the frame rails.  Scroll down to page 22.. for example.   http://www.binks.com/Portals/0/Repository/EA52-100 Binks Spray Gun Extensions.pdf

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

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    11 hours ago, Carl Beck said:

    Just a thought - If it was my car - and the frame rails looked as good as they do in the pictures - I'd think seriously about putting a couple holes in the floorboards. Then spray them inside with POR-15... I'd rather have a couple extra rubber plugs in the floor boards than future rust coming though the frame rails.  Scroll down to page 22.. for example.   http://www.binks.com/Portals/0/Repository/EA52-100 Binks Spray Gun Extensions.pdf

    FWIW,

    Carl B.

    Hi Carl,

        Yes, I will  look in to that.  I was planning on doing the entire undercarriage with the POR-15 anyway, just as I did on the previous orange one.  It wouldn't be that hard to add this for the inside of the frame rails as well.  Thanks for the tip.

    Rich

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    On 2/7/2017 at 3:40 PM, grannyknot said:

    Rich, I took inspiration from you but had to bring out the big guns, BFA?

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    Is that an old Mouse Hole anvil?  I have one from about 1835, it's a nice piece of iron.

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    Just now, jwtaylor said:

    Is that an old Mouse Hole anvil?  I have one from about 1835, it's a nice piece of iron.

    Never heard the Mouse Hole name before but an anvil expert placed it 1830-1840 London, 140lb

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    Nothing too exciting at this point.  Body work and sanding is the dull slow part.  Started on the engine bay  prep. Before pic is shown below.  Wiped down the engine bay with lacquer thinner to remove the oil residue.  I plugged 6 small holes and the 2 large holes that were previously used for the AC system.  We won't have the AC system installed so that makes things a bit easier.  Also fixed the little ding on the fender.  I noticed a little yellow paint as I sanded the fender.  I am guessing this fender was replaced at one point and the fender came from a yellow car?  I don't think that is primer or filler.  The battery area is in good condition with just some trace surface rust.  Here are some of the pics.

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    Things like this are always interesting to me.  A little more Z CSI.  The single panhead phillips screw (wrong type) and the two hex phillips screws(correct type) to support the windshield wiper pivot.  Makes me wonder why the wiper system was removed at some point.  Fortunately I have a whole box of the hex phillip screws with the yellow zinc coating. so no trouble finding the correct screw.

    I cleaned up the panel area under the back hatch.  That had some significant rust as you can see in the pics.  I wire wheeled all of the rust off and put on rust inhibitor yesterday.  Used the filler today and sanded the area to form.  It still needs a bit of final shaping, but is close to what it needs to be.  Pics are below.  

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    Things like this are always interesting to me.  A little more Z CSI.  The single panhead phillips screw (wrong type) and the two hex phillips screws(correct type) to support the windshield wiper pivot.  Makes me wonder why the wiper system was removed at some point.


    I also have exact same as yours, mine was built 12/71. I cleaned the cowl and noticed the mismatched screws only on the driver side. I'm positive the wipers has never been removed since new.


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    1 hour ago, 240Ziggy said:


    I also have exact same as yours, mine was built 12/71. I cleaned the cowl and noticed the mismatched screws only on the driver side. I'm positive the wipers has never been removed since new.
     

    Wow, that is interesting as this was the drivers side also.  Maybe that is the correct screw configuration then.  I honestly don't know.  It just seems odd to me from a manufacturing stand point.

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    4 minutes ago, motorman7 said:

     

     

    Wow, that is interesting as this was the drivers side also.  Maybe that is the correct screw configuration then.  I honestly don't know.  It just seems odd to me from a manufacturing stand point.

    I have dismantled 3 early Z's now and each one had the same configuration of screws, one round head Philips and two hex head Philips holding the wiper arms. It's a thing, factory for sure. It has been mentioned a few times but I don't know if anyone has come up with a reason for it, yup CSI

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    Maybe it's a clearance issue for the cowl? The screw being a lower profile than the bolt...

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    On 2/13/2017 at 4:15 PM, Patcon said:

    Maybe it's a clearance issue for the cowl? The screw being a lower profile than the bolt...

    Yes, that is probably the reason.  Very interesting stuff.

    Continued with the body work.  Finished out the lower front passenger fender (before and after shown).  Started the whole overall sand of the car starting with the rear passenger side quarter panel.  Also cleaning up small dings and paint chips along the way.  

    I took a pick of the rear passenger side window area with window removed.  You can see the color difference of the original paint and the second paint.   I am wondering if the second coat darkened over time or if it was different from the start.  Hard to say.

    It was a little dirty under the fender.  I will clean that off and coat with POR-15. 

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    Thanks Carl, I am really enjoying the work and everything is progressing very well.

            I cleaned up the inside passenger fender area  and sprayed with rust preventative since it was off.  Also installed new foam seal
    and cleaned up the fender rubber gasket. That entire area is in very nice condition.  I also sprayed the inside of the fender to inhibit rust, and then reinstalled.

         I am continuing on the overall body sand and cleaning up the small chips and dings.  That is actually going kind of slow as the second paint job has a fairly thick clear coat. I would like to sand most of that off, and at least get down to the orange base coat. Not very exciting stuff, but necessary.  Here are a few pics of the area under the fender.

     

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    Worked on the drivers side fender this weekend.   Removed fender and cleaned up the inside.  Wire wheeled and sanded rust areas near bottom of fender and upper attach points.  Cleaned up the upper air box area and then sprayed the area along with the fender.  Also installed new foam seals and then re-installed the fender.  The whole area came out very nice.  

          Spent some more time detail sanding the engine bay in the nooks and crannies.  I think I am finished with the sanding on the passenger side.  I also sanded the roof and part of the rear hatch.  I still have some more engine bay sanding to do and then the drivers side along with the hood, cowl and headlight buckets.  So, I am pretty far along here.   I am hoping to have this ready for the paint shop in two to three weeks.  

    Also found another yellow car part, the drivers side turn signal valence. 

    Here are some pics of the progress

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             Still working on the body.  I cleaned up the lower driver side fender (looks like I still need to smooth that forward edge a bit).  I also finished the sanding on the passenger fender outside area.  While sanding the underside of the front valence area, I ran across that one broken bolt that I almost forgot about, so now was a good time to fix that.  So I drilled and re-tapped the hole.  I tried using an easy out after drilling the hole, but the stud would not budge.  When I used the correct drill size for the tap, the stud was pretty close to coming out so I was able to pry out sections of the stud that had come loose.  I then just ran the tap through and everything cleaned up pretty well.

             I put the hood back on the car to do the sanding on that part.  The top was pretty straight forward with just a minor ding in the front corner, but the underside was a bit messy.  Will finish the rest of that next weekend.   Also, as mentioned earlier, I got the front valence sanded along with the radiator frame area and the passenger side valence.  Also started sanding the upper side of the driver side door and rear quarter panel.

             I will have the car painted by the shop that does all of the painting for Les Canaday at Classic Datsun Motorsports.  They really do excellent work and know the Z's real well.  Should have this ready to deliver to the paint shop before the end of the month.  

     

     

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    Found a nice little surprise in one of the two rear tool boxes.  Those look like brand new shoulder harnesses.  Very nice and in perfect condition.   I am looking forward to installing them when the time comes.

    I removed the front windshield and rear hatch glass.  The front windshield rubber was a challenge.  It had some weird black sealant on it that did not dry but remained wet.  It was like some gummy tar like substance that would not dissolve with lacquer thinner (my 'go to' solvent).  Fortunately the 'Ultra Clean' surface cleaner that I use before painting was able to dissolve it, finally.  I think I went through twenty pieces of paper towel trying to clean it off the paint, my hands, tools, etc before I got the correct solvent.  

    I also took the seats, firewall insulation and center console out and will just leave the vinyl in.  I will make sure to have the vinyl covered during the painting process as it is in great condition. 

    I removed the rear hatch in order to access the upper hatch area where the weather stripping goes.   I had to clean off all of the old weather stripping glue.   The best way to clean that off is with the wire wheel on the end of my drill.  After that I sanded the area to remove the wire wheel scratches.  

    I pretty much have all of the dings and dents fixed on the body and will do just a bit more detail sanding in the engine area.  Also a few loose items to sand (Head light buckets, windshield wiper cowl, fuel door and access covers) and then I will be ready to send the car to the paint shop.   Very exciting as we are getting close to being ready to deliver this to the paint shop.

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    Looking GREAT - that Z deserves a very high end Paint Job.. Can't wait to see it..

    Carl B.

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    Finishing off the final loose parts and underside of the hood.   Will take this to the paint shop this Thursday.  With the body and parts at the paint shop, I will start work on motor.  Will also start getting parts prepped for zinc plating.  Things are moving along well.

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    Big day to today.  Finally got the car off to the paint shop.  Woo-Hoo!  I am very excited about the paint shop here.  The final prep, primer and paint will be done at 'Customs by Miguel'.  Miguel does the paint work for Les at Classic Datsun Motorsports and specializes in Z cars.  He also does the paint work for several of the local racers.  His work is very impressive so I am looking forward to monitoring the progress.  While Miguel is taking care of the paint, I will get the dash ready for delivery to 'Just Dashes' in LA.  After that, I will start work on the motor.   Things are moving along pretty well.  Below are some pics of the car delivery to the paint shop.

    You can see some of Miguel's work here including the Bob Sharp Racing Nissan prepared for the Amelia Island Concours:  https://www.facebook.com/CustomsByMiguel/

     

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