May 21, 201212 yr comment_390704 I agree with Mike, if you had to use the bolts to pull the engine and trans together something is wrong. Maybe the torque converter got misaligned with the oil pump (in the trans) and is pushing on the flex plate too much. Hopefully you will be able to find the problem quickly and it will be easy to correct. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-390704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 21, 201212 yr Author comment_390757 Quick question, If im missing the bottom half of that plate between the bell housing and block, would that cause it not to turn? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-390757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 201212 yr comment_390778 Bottom half? If you mean the dust cover, then no, it won't cause your problem. I looked in the factory manual for your car and in the auto trans section they specifically say to make sure the engine turns freely after installing the transmission. With this in mind, it seems that your problem could be due to an error with the trans install. Take out the starter and see if you can turn the engine with a wrench. If not, then loosen the bell housing screws and the tail shaft mount and move the trans back a bit. Try to turn the engine again. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-390778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 201212 yr Author comment_390891 Just as an update to everyone Sunday we are gonna pull the transmission to see what the problem is thanks for everyone's help and will continue to update! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-390891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 28, 201212 yr Author comment_391305 Ok guys, after twelve grueling hours of cutting the bolts from the driveshaft(PO had a various amount of different sized bolts with different heads and they were seized in. It was ridiculous. Dremel and hammer/chisel combo later it was out. Pulled the transmission and found it was the torque converter wasn't in the alignment notches. Once it was all back together we hooked everything back up and hit the key...she turned over. Didn't fire, I could imagine due to plenty of things I was too tired to track it down at 12:30 at night. So spending today with my family and ten back at it tomm after class. I'll post videos soon guys, thanks for all of the help and support! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 29, 201212 yr Author comment_391436 Ok guys now the fuel pump isn't working, however I pulled it off and hooked it straight to a battery and it worked fine, any ideas? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 29, 201212 yr comment_391438 Ok guys now the fuel pump isn't working, however I pulled it off and hooked it straight to a battery and it worked fine, any ideas?Fuel pump relay/EFI relay depending upon the year of your car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 30, 201212 yr Author comment_391442 Its a 1977. I have replaced the Main Relay under the dash already I just dont know whats next. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 30, 201212 yr comment_391443 You do know that the pump only gets power when the engine is running or when the key is at Start? It does not have power when the key is at On. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 30, 201212 yr Author comment_391446 trying to figure out where the Fuel relay is under the hood, anyone have an idiot pic for me? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 30, 201212 yr Author comment_391447 Zed, no i know that. It doesnt prime or anything. Just sits there. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 30, 201212 yr comment_391449 Are you confirming what I said, or adding detail to the question? Not clear. There's no priming on the 77.Have you tried the common method for testing the pump - disconnect the small wire from your starter and turn the key to Start? The pump should run without the starter cranking.I think that the main relay by the hood latch release lever is the combined EFI and fuel pump relays.Edit - changed "ignition" to EFI Edited May 30, 201212 yr by Zed Head Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/43242-days-and-days-of-searching-i-need-help-please/?&page=6#findComment-391449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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