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I'll be there this year. It'll be interesting to have it back on the street just like old times. Anyone going? Perhaps we can start a caravan? I'll be driving from the Altadena / Pasadena area.

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Got a few coming up from good ol San Diego via Escondido. Paid my fees yesterday. My plan is to go to Cars and Coffee on Saturday morning before going to the Garage Sale, then return again on Sunday for the show. My ride will not get any awards but still taking it up as a means of showing my support for bringing back the show to the street where it belongs.

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Got a few coming up from good ol San Diego via Escondido. Paid my fees yesterday. My plan is to go to Cars and Coffee on Saturday morning before going to the Garage Sale, then return again on Sunday for the show. My ride will not get any awards but still taking it up as a means of showing my support for bringing back the show to the street where it belongs.

I will most likely be attending the C&C as well on Saturday :)

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Getting pretty close to show time. Really looking forward to seeing all the cars this Sunday. Gotta make sure I have spare batteries for the camera.

Will put a little touch-up on the yellow car front spoiler tonight and throw on some cleaner wax. Looks like the weather should be great! I'll be driving up the '70 and my daughter will take of the '71. Will caravan up there with Montezuma and maybe some other ZCSD folks. Hope to see a lot of you all there.

These are the two I'm bringin'.

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Looking forward to the ride, just got a vintage Recaro LX black leather for my car so I should be riding in comfort. My car is not up to the Motorman7 level; he has set the bar. I am going up both days; I love the garage sale, my plan for Saturday is: Cars and Coffee, Garage Sale then back to San Diego. I will have my boy Junior as my co-pilot. Junior is my youngest dog; my daughter who lives in Pomona is taking him off my hands so he can go visit a Senior home and give love to people, a therapy dog. I will have to stay in Orange County until noon when Junior is ready to go back home. I might not take the Z on Saturday, maybe drive a Miata or the ol Montero. Get back to San Diego and make last minute prep on the Z. I have an action packed weekend for sure.

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Looking forward to returning to the original spot...Great memories revisited and new ones for sure. I'll be be the guy with the FRLDY Z plate....No, I do not own a right hand drive car. I've had thoughts of passing the open slot in the DMV records to someone that really deserves that vanity plate. Anyway, if anyone is in the Pasadena are hit me up! I would love to arrive in a small caravan.

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You should pass it to me ;)

Was patching up the car with some protective clear bra tape I use for my track car last night and took a chunk of paint off the hood while adjusting the tape... pretty bummed... I just left the tape on for the show argh! 40 year old paint + clear bra = No no. I guess it's time for repaint!

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You should pass it to me ;)

Was patching up the car with some protective clear bra tape I use for my track car last night and took a chunk of paint off the hood while adjusting the tape... pretty bummed... I just left the tape on for the show argh! 40 year old paint + clear bra = No no. I guess it's time for repaint!

Tell ya what.....I am short on funds to get the processing going for new plates, but when I have the money I'll hit you up. Vanity plates cost more, and I need to keep my registration fees lower for next year. It should go to someone like you for sure :)

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Great cars indeed, and a fun show once again......But, I do have one question:

Did anyone see the car that won best 260Z stock? Ummm........I am not saying a word for the moment. Just shocked.

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Great cars indeed, and a fun show once again......But, I do have one question:

Did anyone see the car that won best 260Z stock? Ummm........I am not saying a word for the moment. Just shocked.

I'm guessing it didn't have a V-8 in it, so it must be stock ;)

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Hah!

There were at least three other 260s that were stock....and presentable. I'll upload some pics tonight. I really hate to be the guy to say, "Why did that guy win?" But, after you see the pics maybe you'll understand. Trust me.

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Yes, it is a very frustrating things at these events, so I try not to get too worked up about it (but I do anyway). Any event that is "people's choice" or in this case "peer's choice", will yield frustrating results. Nothing you can do about it but shake your head and be happy for the guy that won.

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I went this year, in fact I went over and said hello to motorman7 (really nice guy) and mentioned that I'd send him a note... So here is my note to you.

Great show, and extraordinary cars. I didn't stick around to see the winners, but I'm guessing that the guy with the dirty 260Z labeled "untouched and unrestored" won. He won 3 years ago when I entered. I concluded that I couldn't beat a car that wins just because it's never been touched. How can "anyone" compete with that?

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I went this year, in fact I went over and said hello to motorman7 (really nice guy) and mentioned that I'd send him a note... So here is my note to you.

Great show, and extraordinary cars. I didn't stick around to see the winners, but I'm guessing that the guy with the dirty 260Z labeled "untouched and unrestored" won. He won 3 years ago when I entered. I concluded that I couldn't beat a car that wins just because it's never been touched. How can "anyone" compete with that?

Hi Mike,

It was great to meet you at the show. Glad we got a chance to talk and enjoy the cars :beer:.

That 260Z is Bob Heckendorf's car. I've been to a lot of shows with him and he's a very nice guy as well. I do harass him a little bit as he has the only "original and untouched" 260Z that I've seen that has round tops and off color block paint (wonder how that got out of the factory). Still, his car is beautiful and tough to beat, and I do not mind losing to him when we are in the same category.

Anyway, will try and keep my mouth shut here.

Best regards,

Rich

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I know that "original and untouched" 260Z. I swear the award went to another car. I am beginning to feel someone was playing a joke after the awards ceremony.

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Rich

Great seeing you at the show and the other ZCCIV members! Felt like a reunion, since I haven't been out to Temecula since Fred's service. Boy, reading this thread just made me breath a sigh of relief. I enjoyed the shows, especially meeting and chatting with Z people, but the show part just lost it's luster after a while. As you know, I didn't miss it.

I'm not sure if the "peer judging" didn't make it even worse this year. At least when it was people's choice, as long as the giving out of ballots was controlled (which they didn't) at least there was some dilution of voting blocks, but with peer voting, it just seems that the club with the most attendees could heavily concentrate the votes. Well anyway, I'm glad I don't have to worry about that now. If I was going to show a car again, it would only be at judged events and even then I think it would only be in shows within the brand or model, i.e., Mustang, Corvette, etc, so the judges knew the cars and what they were looking at.

I've lost to Bob H as well at the Huntington Beach concours. Didn't mind it a bit. He and his wife are good people.

Well, great seeing everyone again. Rich, please let me know if ZCCIV is having a show this year and when it is. thanks

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OK, this car. This was a joke, right? I even saw the owner of this 260 accept his award. Not trying to be disrespectful. I just want somebody to confirm this was the winner for 260 stock......Yeah, I know....I sound nuts.

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OK, this car. This was a joke, right? I even saw the owner of this 260 accept his award. Not trying to be disrespectful. I just want somebody to confirm this was the winner for 260 stock......Yeah, I know....I sound nuts.

Could very well be the winner. With "Peer Choice", every owner got one vote, that's it. Theoretically if 20 owners all voted for themselves, you could have had 20 people tied for first. That would be cool I guess. Personally, I never vote and didn't vote in this show. That's not what I want to do at a car show. I want to relax, socialize and spectate, so that's what I did . Actually, I am surprised that I even placed, but glad to get the recognition.

And the more I think about it, the happier I am that the 260Z above got first. Very cool for that owner.

Rich

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Could very well be the winner. With "Peer Choice", every owner got one vote, that's it. Theoretically if 20 owners all voted for themselves, you could have had 20 people tied for first. That would be cool I guess. Personally, I never vote and didn't vote in this show. That's not what I want to do at a car show. I want to relax, socialize and spectate, so that's what I did . Actually, I am surprised that I even placed, but glad to get the recognition.

And the more I think about it, the happier I am that the 260Z above got first. Very cool for that owner.

Rich

Ok Rich, If you had voted for me in the 240 class I would have won just like the 260 guy did. It is time for MSA to consider doing a 3 judge panels, plus the peer voting to come up with winners. We have to standardize the judgement of our cars, we need to have a "Bloomington Gold" type level grading of the cars. I could be "Orange Gold" or something like that. The owner could get a certificate from the panel that would be attached to the car and make it more valuable and bring out a larger group of high quality cars along with cars like mine and others. I think making a joke out voting or winning this show is not in the best interest of the hobby. Just my opinion.

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