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Datsun 240Z Barn find Restoration! cont.

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I've just moved the thread from the HELP!!!! section because I figured it was a bit more appropriate here.

I have already got all the carpets out and the seats, which were unusually difficult, and have discovered that the drivers side floor pan is totally knackered, i can see the road through it and the rest feels like it's made of tin foil and cardboard :0( Next to come out this afternoon is the vinyl. EEEEK!!

Thanks to anyone who follows my thread!

Matt

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There's also something underneath that looks a bit like chassis that is rotted through and bent! Any idea what it is?

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There's also something underneath that looks a bit like chassis that is rotted through and bent! Any idea what it is?

That will be one of the floor support rails. You will need to cut it off and re place. a fabricators will be able to make them for you for a few quid.

I am in the midst of restoring 2 240s so if you need any help just PM me I am in Sheffield UK;)

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Matt, searce Zclub for floor pans, there is something about MGB (or another brand, can't really remember) floor pans that will fit nicely.

Chris

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Thanks guys, i've actually found a company that has quite a lot of Z stuff. I'm posting the progress pictures on "My Z Photos" as i go.

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ok. yesterday i pulled out the rest of the vinyl and also remove the rear quarter glass and the front windscreen! It took me a long time to get the windscreen out, is that normal? There's a couple of patches of rust at the bottom of where the rubber was, it's gone through in two tiny places.

Good news, my triple webers arrived today from Italy, they look brand new!! Might have to sell them to pay for all the other stuff the car needs! haha.

I've added more pictures to "My Z Photos"

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Looks great so far. That floor board is going to have to be cut out and changed. This project is moving along at Wheeler Dealer speed, you would think you got Edd China on the job. I always enjoy retoration threads. What brand triples you running? For vinyl replace www.classicdatusn.com or www.datsunspirit.com would be best, both guys know and love datsuns.

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Montezuma, my triple carbs are webers. They've had a really good clean up! I've got it all to do before they go on. The car has ( at the moment) the original hitatchi's.

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Hi guys, I'm having some serious problems! I can't get the dash board off! I've undone all the bolts (I think) and i can tell that there's something to do with the heater that's preventing me lifting it clear. How do I disconnect that for a start?

Did anyone see the front wings on my pictures? I've looked them over and there's only a small patch of rust on the bottom of the right side one, none at all on the left one!!! RESULT!!

If anyone can explain to me how the dash comes away I'd be very grateful.

Thanks once again

Matt

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Here's a search:

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/search.php?searchid=794533

I searched for Heater Control Panel as that is what is holding you back. The cables to the panel must be released for the dash to come out of the car. Don't try to remove them at the control levers, remove them at the items they control, i.e. vent, heater flap, defrost flap, water valve.

Here are two of the more pertinent articles:

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20818

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6981

HTH

E

Edited by EScanlon

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Cheers for that mate! I finally got it off today! What a lot of hard work. Some of the srews fastening the heater cables and stuff were rusted on so had to snip the wire :0(

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That z of your is looking pretty good, floor pans are pretty dingy like mine though, i posted some pics of my car at the body shop getting work done

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Yeah i looked through all your pics. As you can see from my pics I haven't taken the body panels off yet but i can feel that something underneath the top of the wings is about as sound and strong as wet toilet paper so that will get me down a bit! LOL

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BAD. REALLY BAD! The tail gate needs replacing, and there's a few patches of rust on the edges of the rear quarter where they join the tailgate. I'll post a picture of it if you're interested. the locking mechanism is unreckognisable, it's just a mass ball of rust. When they're all striped down, can you see any of the actual chassis?

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does anybody know a cheap place i can get replacement seats from, mine absolutely STINK!!!! Can't get rid of the smell! I also need something doing to the dash board, it smells too but it also looks very dirty and i can't make it look ok.

Any ideas?

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a small patch of rust on the bottom of the right side one

Sounds like your cowl drain has dumped trash behind the sheet metal and it has accumulated over the years... and kept it nice and moist against the back of the metal. Result? Rust through.

When you remove the wing (fender for US folks), you'll probably find a glob of some sort right behind that rust.

Check these photo's out for what I did, which updates the Cowl Drain Tube to properly drain OUT of the fender.

http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=3542

HTH

E

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Does anyone know about having my dash re-skinned? or whatever? The cover of it stinks and is dirty and uncleanable (if that's a real word) and right hand drive dashes are very expensive from what i can find online so far.

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Does anyone know about having my dash re-skinned? or whatever? The cover of it stinks and is dirty and uncleanable (if that's a real word) and right hand drive dashes are very expensive from what i can find online so far.
you could get a half or a full dash cover, or you could get a colorbonding spraypaint for interior trim peices in black, like this stuff, although i dont know about how to eliminate the smell

http://www.blackdragonauto.com/icatalog/z/images/0065.jpg

Edited by J Shara

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Matt,

Enrique ( EScanlon ) is giving you some very good advice, so please be sure to take notice of it......

As for your dash - I would recommend that you put it to one side and deal with it occasionally whilst you pay attention to the other ( BIG ) jobs that need doing on the car first. From the looks of it, I don't think you are going to need to re-fit it for a good while yet....

I had a similar problem with a long-stored RHD dash that smelled bad and seemed to have all sorts of microscopic life growing on it. It was not cracked though, so the incentive to reclaim it was high and I persevered. After several months of occasional washing / intensive cleaning and feeding with Johnson's Baby Oil ( believe it or not ) it looked just great and smelled, well, of Baby Oil.

You can get dashes re-skinned, but you can always tell ( and it's expensive ). I suggest you think about other more basic things on the car - like the structure, mechanicals and paint - before you worry too much about the trim and cosmetics that you will be re-fitting to it some time down the line.

Have you got any literature that pertains to the cars? I'm talking about a proper Nissan-issued Factory Service Manual, and/or a Nissan Parts List? Both would answer a LOT of the kind of questions that you have already asked and will probably be asking here. There's also a really useful book titled "How To Restore Your Datsun Z Car" by Wick Humble, which - even though it is specific to the north American market models - can be a great aid and a good source of inspiration. Many of the parts and techniques in the book are also applicable to your UK market RHD car.

You might also like to sign up as a member on the UK Z Club forum ( www.zclub.net ) for RHD-specific advise, parts and sympathy.

And don't throw ANYTHING away yet!

Alan T.

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yeah i think you're right! There's a lot of crap that i can sense although i haven't seen it yet! The inside of the car is stripped now except the wiring at the back and i've even got all the sound deadening crap out too!

With regards to the book mentioned, "how to restore your datsun Z car", where might I find this book, as you can tell, i am in need of direction on the order in which things should come off and stuff.

I have the Haynes manual and the factory service manual/ workshop manual.

I've also removed the carbs and manifold with all the stuff attatched to it today (took some doing) and i've loosened off the cam cover, i took it off briefly to have a look and it all looks good, no signs of wear or lack of oil, odd since the car has done 126,000 miles!

the intake manifold was full of some crap that looked like sand and bread crumbs, it was going into the engine too.

What am i to do if the chassis is rotten when i finally get to it? This is my biggest worry!!

Cheers again guys

Matt

P.S. posted more pics.

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can anyone tell me if this bad? (the picture above that is) I think it's the front sway bar, where it joins the chassis? Please correct me if i'm wrong, I still have an awful lot to learn!

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