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2300 mile road trip for $250.00 240 worth it?


er34gtt2000jp

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OK everybody,

Some of you may have seen the recent thread about "two Z's in the desert going cheap."

Well I bought one of them for $250 and from the photos it looked like a steal. But I just found out that the car may be worse off than the auction and photos led me to believe.

My question is, before I make the 2300 mile round trip trek do you guys think a $250.00 supposedly fairly straight and for the most part not rotted out 1972 240Z worth it?

As far as I know it has a clear title and is fairly complete, someone stole some stuff out of the dash and threw a rock through the windshield. And I guess there is some damage to the front valance and grill. Interior is shot but it may have a complete original L24/ 4-speed.

I may be able to source some parts for it from other cars the seller has but I have not heard back from them on it.

I am looking for this to be a restoration-rectification project not a get out and drive it tomorrow car. It's just 2300 miles is a long way to go for a car that might be even worse than I know about now. It would be a BIG bummer to go all that way and find the car is a heap!

What are your opinions? Personally I don't mind the drive for a car that can be restored and is not totaled.

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Whats the gas going to cost you? If the car is "fairly straight, not rotted" and has most of the original parts, it is definitely 'worth it". Of course your time and fuel will factor in but still should be a good deal. Watch out about the not rotted part, thats what everyone that hasn't been to this web site says about their cars!!!

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Perhaps you could get someone local to go and have a look at it for you before making the trip. I would say that $250 is worth it for a 240Z in just about any condition; surely it's worth that much for parts. You'll need to actually see the car before determining whether it's worth restoring.

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Thanks for the replies so far,

Yeah the rust factor has yet to be determined, from what I saw in the two photos it looks OK but no pics of the floorboards or frame rails. Will have to wait and see about it I guess.

I am planning the trip this coming weekend and hope to pick up the car on Saturday.

It will end up costing me more in gas then the car cost me but I guess that is what we do for the love of the hobby eh!

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2300 miles? And you say the gas will cost you more than the initial $250 spent, plus food, possible lodging, not to mention the possibility of an accident doing all that driving. If the seller misrepresented the car, I don't know how you could be bound to the purchase. Otherwise, I would look into having somebody else haul it for you. Tabulate what you think the total cost will be just getting it home, then see what you could purchase closer to home for that amount, in possibly better condition. Hopefully the car is in ok shape, but I wonder how long that windshield has been out, and what the weather has done to an already rust prone car.

I myself am in the process of trying to revive a fairly rusty car. I can surely say that in my opinion, finding a good solid chassis is your best bet when beginning a restoration project, particularly if you are already questioning a $250 dollar purchase. Like MikeW mentioned.....have someone local check it out for ya. Hope all goes well.

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Eric Only you can can decide if it is worth that long of a road trip.If you go out and ask 100 non Z people and give the facts they are going to tell you no way,but if you ask 100 people that really love there Zeds and are addicted to the hobby the only answer you will get is go for it. Last month I took an 1800 mile road in bad weather to pick up the Z pictured up below. 35 hrs on the road I kept telling myself this is crazy but after a couple of days rest I made a 1200 mile trip to pick another Z. 1 week later I made a 900 mile trip for another. At least the trips are getting shorter. I can't explain why but I am still looking for another one. Only you can decide.I know what I would do.

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Do you have a place and the skills to do all the removal and rebuild of the body and frame rail parts? Can you weld and fab sheet metal? I only ask these because I am in the process of replacing or repairing both frame rails in the front fender wells, the inner fender well under the battery box the fire wall in two places where the water sat in the cowl and rusted through from the inside. Also cut the complete junction out where the right inner fender well meets the fire wall along with both rocker panels the left dog leg ( had done the upper fender well earlier) and the lower half of the right quarter panel not to mention the floor pan repairs. Was it worth it only because I can do these things myself and this is a car I have owned for over thirty years. . Would I do it again I am not sure I would, looking at some of the cars on Craigslist and the local news paper. I have far exceeded any cost of a cleaner car in just man hours alone. I have got more money in parts for this rebuild then I paid for the car NEW.

Just wished you ask these questions before you pushed the bid button on eBay. I am not putting you down as I too have done the same thing. I own a very expensive pair of door sill pans I don't even need. A lot of us have done it just hope some one else learns from it.

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Thanks for the encouraging words .

At least I am not the only guy crazy enough to think about Makeing a long road trip to pick up a Zed! You sound like you have made a mini career out of it.

At least I will have a slightly bigger trailer to do it with.

In my conversations with the seller they mentioned that if I get there and want another car instead we could work something out. So I think they are good people just not gear heads.

I have already pretty much committed to the trip, gonna stop by the Grand Canyon on the way home, I was just started to get cold feet after finding out the car was in worse shape than I thought.

I am one of those guys who love Zed's enough to do this, hell I almost brought one back from Japan but the deal fell through.

Thanks again for the replies!

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a7dz,

I have the place, some of the tools and all of the ambition to take on the rust monster, but I would rather not if you know what I mean. I do however have a 280Z 2+2 parts car that could donate as much of it's front clip as needed.

If I need to replace.....let me rephrase when I need to replace the battery tray or inner fender I have a pretty good one to use. Same with the frame rails in the front. The floor pans and rockers are a different story however.

As for the skill, never done any welding, just 3 years as an aircraft painter. I do plan on getting a welder for the project though. I know I will need it at some point.

Who knows maybe I will get lucky and the car turns out not to be a Flintstone car! Or I will score something else.

Thanks again for the replies.

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You live in California, and you are ready to drive 2300 miles for a rusty damaged Z? The whole transaction will cost you an absolute minimum of $750, and two full days-why not buy this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-240Z-Rolling-Shell-Good-For-Race-Car-or-Parts_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42611QQitemZ4559890760QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

and put the other $400 into a rusty local car with a title?

Save money use the driving time for working on the car...

I would ask the seller if the vin that Nissan stamped in the firewall had been removed...

Will

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You live in California, and you are ready to drive 2300 miles for a rusty damaged Z?=Will

Well its is a 2300 mile round trip, but as for the rust and damage I will have to wait and see.

At least this car is pretty complete from what I can tell and it has a title. Becieds I am going to take my wife and son to the Grand Canyon and buy some of those stupid little pens that have the floaty thingys in them.

It's only money right?

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UPDATE -

Well I just got word that the damage in the front is only the lower center valence, grill is a little tweaked too. But the engine is complete.

No outwardly signs of rust, but the interior is shot. There is a hole in the windshield the size of a baseball. Not sure how much rain they get there but it is the desert. :paranoid:

I think the parts themselves will be worth the $750 or so the whole deal could cost me. I hope.

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ER,

I almost feel responsible for what you're going through right now, since I was the one who started the "Two Zs in the Desert Going Cheap" thread. I think the car is a real bargain and from the 2 pics the seller provided, there only looks to be a little surface rust on the car. I would also say that since you are making a semi-vaction out of the trip and stopping by the Grand Canyon, it's worth the trip. However, just to be on the safe side, I would recommend that you contact members Red-Eye and RAZ1 who both live in the Albuquerque area to check out the car for you.

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er34gtt2000jp, if you can get them to let me take a look at the car(s) I will look it over for you and report back it's actual condition. I'll know right away if the car is native to this area or a transplant from a rusty state. I can also look at the other cars and tell you which ones might be a better canidate if the original one doesn't work out. I can look at it any time this week. I have some freed up time since the latest issue of SZM is about to go out in the mail.

Let me know, I'd be more then happy to check this out so that you make the right decision.

PS: tomorrow is suppose to be 68 degrees, perfect weather for looking at Z's

Art

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er34gtt2000jp,

Sorry, wasn't monitoring the list over the weekend. If you want me to take more detailed pictures, let me know. I'm gonna be out of town over the weekend, so can't help you load it. Why don't you set me up with the contact info, and I'll drop by and snap some shots...Robert

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Will, the reason you didn't get to shake my hand was because the hand shaking line was very long that weekend and I finally just had to say enough is enough. But if I remember correctly you were next in line. Better luck next time. LOL

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Hey guys!

Thanks for the offers to go out and look at the car for me.

Unfortunately the seller will not be available until Friday. I will be leaving California at 6AM Friday so it really does me no good.

If either one of you want to hook up Saturday morning when I go out to pick up the car, let me know. Maybe you can score some parts, I will be bringing my tools with.

Thanks again for the offers, I really appreciate it.

Eric

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Parts! I have enough parts already that I'm going to start throwing some away because I have no more room to store them.

I'll meet up with you on Saturday morning just to see what these people have. You need to let me know where you are coming in from and where this place is that the car is stored and I'll pick a place that will be easy to meet at.

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