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Hi guys. Ive had my 72 240z for about a month now and ive really gotten into the car. The deeper i get in, the more work i have to do... its never ending! Since i started taking apart the front end i realized i need new rocker pannels, inner wheel wells, front frame rails, fire wall needs to be patched, battertray area is toast, floor pans are gone, floor supports are gone, and its even starting to get into the rear... the spare tire compartment is rotting. I honestly dont have the money to repair all these so i was wondering if anyone had a shellfor a 240z. Im located in massachusetts and i am willing to travel kind of far to pick one up. I read a previous thread and there is one in arizona but thats just to fasr =(. Im kinda stuck at this point and i KNOW i dont have the money to repair the body i have now... its just to far gone. Hopefully someone could help me out =)

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I was lookin for something a little more stripped down, i figure it would be a little less price wise. Not a bad lookin z everything appears to be solid from what i could see. Its a 72 right? and whats left for interior parts... could you possibly get a couple more pics? thanks for the response =)

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Most anything that is in "good" shape will be either in the SW or S. Since you are about as NE as you can get, I would plan on a road trip. Take a 2 week vacation to AZ and bring a trailer. You could get lots of parts for cheap. If you can't go get it yourself, you WILL be spending a lot of money on it. Someone had to bring it close to you and they had to pay for it.

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yah i gotta do some plannin tho. Another thing is im not exactly sure if i want to devote that much time/money to this car. I dont mean to sound uninterested in Z's but id rather travel down to Arizona for some vette parts if u kno what i mean :) . Knowing me ill prolly end up goin down there cuz i would hate to see this car just half assly put together. In the mean time ill keep searchin for that shell and if any of u have one lieing around and ready to be sold im interested.

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Can't help you with the body you shell you are looking for; but you might want to download the 240Z "factory restoration checklist" from the following

url:

http://www.jasonjarvis.com/main.html

and use it as a more structured approach to restoring your 240Z (with which ever body shell you decide to go with) Might help you keep a better perspective as to what exactly needs to be done to what parts...etc...etc

I'm currently in the process of making up one for the 75-78 280Z crowd. Will be worded slightly different tho because it would be geared more to being owner restored instead of shop restored like the early 240Z program. None the less tho, it would add some structure to the job at hand, namely restoring our Z's. √√ and double √

Have included an imaged I scanned from "How to restore your Datsun Z-car" by Wick Humble as an example. (I.E. - Just a visual reminder as to where problems are located on the body) (Just slightly larger) Currently working on most of the "Attachments" from the 240Z checklist but using 280Z information. If anyone's interested, I'll share with you what I've got done so far....

webdawg1

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thanks for the reference man. I just stripped her down to the shell and when im done sandblasting it i might be able to restore it, although its unlikely because the rot is in the oddest places. Im still a little baffled as to what to do but i appreciate the responses

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Sounds like your Z was used in the "salt mines" - I have stripped down a few Z's & none have been that bad.

Don't be afraid to pay a few extra dollars for a good shell - it will save you in the long run.

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yah... new england is a terrible place to buy classic cars from. Whats weird is that the fenders and doors are mint without a spec of rust on them, along with the hood. Now i know never to judge a book by its cover :( Btw i do want those pics (prefferably the front frame rails, fire wall, under the engine bay, and battery tray.) of the black z and was wonderin what u were lookin to sell it for =) Also mines a 8/72 and u said urs was a 10/71? so everything should match up.

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well.... this sux... the whole entire front end of my Z is toast... i can put a screwdriver through whats suppose to be a sturdy frame :( If i sand blasted it the engine bay would be missing :( someone help me! im dien here :lick:

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Yes everything is the same. Ill get the pics asap. I have to work in the moring so it may be a feiw days before i get them up.

The bat tray is good but underneath in the fender well is shot. I didnt know untill i looked at it a feiw hrs ago. Ill get pics of all the really bad parts where the rust bug is.

As far as price gose ill have to think on it.

Whats it worth to you?

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yah... as long as the unibody is strong... where the fenders mount on to then im cool with it, frame rails need to be strong, suspension doesnt matter as long as the shock towers are good. I just dont want it turnin out to be a repeat of the one i just bought =P... u get the fenders off and the unibody is rusted through and u can put ur hand through it. As far as price goes it depends on the condition. I will pay according to the condition of the unibody =) I appreciate this dude.. ur helpin put another Z on the road.

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Im starting to think arkansas is to far away... hmmm... im just trying to think of a way to get down there with a trailer, but thats only problem A, problem B is the amount of money ill be spending to get down there and back and buy it... very frustrating. If anyone who reads this thread and has spare shell plz let me kno... remember ur putting another Z on the road :lick: Id rather not travel that far but if i have to ill try my best. I appreciate you helpin me alot =)

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I've followed this thread without replying but I can't help myself. I honestly think you'd be better off looking for a whole car and not a mythical shell. Since the unibody of these cars is the most difficult part to "fix" it's highly unlikely that you're going to find just the "shell" in great shape. If the shell was in great shape why would someone bother to remove all of the usable parts? A more likely scenario is that the body has problems and the parts were moved to another car - just like you're trying to do. I think you'll have better luck finding a car that's even drivable and bringing that home with you. You can then pick and choose which parts should be transferred.

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Ok so it turns out that there are non rotted shells around here. Still lookin to buy one and im no longer sellin the z... Im searchin real hard and if anyone knows of one or has one for cheap and close to massachusetts ( which is unlikely) let me kno.. i have my eye set on one in NJ lets just hope it all falls through! (BTW it can be a rolling chassis but i dont wanna spend too much money)

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I've followed this thread without replying but I can't help myself. I honestly think you'd be better off looking for a whole car and not a mythical shell. Since the unibody of these cars is the most difficult part to "fix" it's highly unlikely that you're going to find just the "shell" in great shape. If the shell was in great shape why would someone bother to remove all of the usable parts? A more likely scenario is that the body has problems and the parts were moved to another car - just like you're trying to do. I think you'll have better luck finding a car that's even drivable and bringing that home with you. You can then pick and choose which parts should be transferred.

I disagree on one point...you will find good shells for sale frequently. There are many reasons for this and not the least of which is someone started a project and for what ever reason is giving up. Another reason would be someone who parted out a 'rust free' car (who knows why, but probably because it no longer ran and they didn't want to spend the time/money to fix it or maybe didn't know any better) and is now left with only the shell.

I would agree that these are fewer than complete cars though but when found are far cheaper than a complete car in the same 'rust free' condition.

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I would agree that these are fewer than complete cars though but when found are far cheaper than a complete car in the same 'rust free' condition.

Fair enough. I didn't think of someone starting on a project car and then giving up before finishing. I suppose it's possible to find just about anything for sale for one reason or another. As far as cost goes I would think that a non-rolling shell would be more difficult to move/ship than something that at least has wheels and can be rolled onto a truck/trailer.

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I just bought a shell on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4555368387&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

While there was only a brief mention of rust, and a mention of a cracked fraimrail, there was a lot more damage than was listed the core support was damaged from above(probably when the drive train came out), and below(probably forced into the engine crane when the drivetrain fell). The pas. side TC rod mount was pulled loose-rust inside the rail made it weak. I expected there would be many undiscovered problems, and realy bought the car for what was described rather than avioding it for what was not.

Getting the car on the trailer was not terribly difficult-not that it was easy.

We used a HF winch I had set up for use with the trailer, a pair of ramps, and some sweat! Next time I will slide it up the ramps on a sheet of plywood to keep the frame rails straight-the edge of the trailer likes to crease them.

If you are going to buy one, ask very specific questions, and require specific pictures for verification. It is too easy for a general picture to miss an important problem.

Will

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