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hey ive been doing work on some S130's (yes i know that its not a C110 but the fronts are the same between the two) and i just thought anyone who wants coil overs in the front may want to have a look at this thread i am doing in the S130 section,

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?p=343274#post343274

the hybridz S130 guys seem to be more active in asking questions so there is a little more info on the hybridz thread,

http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/95443-j-rex-from-team-shogun-s130-with-s13-coil-overs/

i am still learning so if there is anyone who would like to have some input its most welcome :>

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hey ive been doing work on some S130's (yes i know that its not a C110 but the fronts are the same between the two) >

Are you sure, my 240K shocks don't bolt to the axle like that,

Nigel

edit: just noticed you are talking about S13s and s130's my bad..

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foot in mouth........

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by axle do you mean the knuckle spindle assembly ?

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remember this is the fronts,

and as far as i have seen 240k's and 280zx's and S12's all run a variation of the same front strut so this mod should be applicable

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My 4 x 240Ks run this

also the disc rotor attaches differently, looks like the S130 slip over the hub, whereas the C110 bolts to the back of the hub

Nigel

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none of those parts are used for the conversion so im not sure what difference it makes

Maybe I'm missing something,

I'm showing that the shock / coil-over would not fit on the 240K stub / axle, or do you change the whole thing from a S130 ?

Nigel

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everything from a the ball joint to the top of the strut is S13 and all the rest is standard :> the LCA and all the rest is almost exactly the same so it should work the same

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I think you would need to change the LCA to get a S13 strut into a C110, maybe a S130 LCA would fit into a C110 and have the different end to connect up to the S13 strut. Not sure to be honest but if it was really that easy I think the rally boys would have done it before and since they haven't. . . . . . . .

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ok so i went out and took pictures of some datsuns in my yard as i didnt have time to find any more or go to where i keep my hard top, i know they are poor pictures and its dark and the C110 is missing its caster/tension rod but here they are.

1974 C110 4door

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1983 S130 2+2

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1978 200B GL

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so not the best way of showing it but from the datsun nuts i talk to and my own experience this mod should work the same way for all of these :>

and i believe that the best way to do it would be with s13 LCA's but this way is less modification for now

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Iam looking for lowering coil-overs for the kgc110

so for the front I can use the 280zx ones

and how about the rear coil-overs ?

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The guy I brought my coupe off, said he put 200B struts from his rally car on it (which I removed), I wonder if they are the same part between the 3 cars.

also, the S130 2+2 looks like it's got a thicker sway bar, I assume they are not the same shape ?, or are they very similar ?

Nigel

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Iam looking for lowering coil-overs for the kgc110

so for the front I can use the 280zx ones

and how about the rear coil-overs ?

well if you have 280zx struts and brakes and all that it should be fine to use but if you are going that way just buy lowered springs from king springs keeps you from modification and finding bits and pieces. :) also the C110 does not have coil over shock type suspension so without modifying like mr convertible did you again are restricted to king springs and they are nice and cheap good quality springs :)t

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The guy I brought my coupe off, said he put 200B struts from his rally car on it (which I removed), I wonder if they are the same part between the 3 cars.

also, the S130 2+2 looks like it's got a thicker sway bar, I assume they are not the same shape ?, or are they very similar ?

Nigel

i believe they are different in very minor ways to accommodate different brakes but as far as i know all 3 of them and a few more all mount the same way. i will check if the LCA's and sway bars are the same soon :)

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Thanks man

but I could not find any website who sales king springs for 240k, If you could find a website please let me know.

Is the 4 door springs the same as 2 door springs?

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Thanks man

but I could not find any website who sales king springs for 240k, If you could find a website please let me know.

Is the 4 door springs the same as 2 door springs?

ebay australia Item number: 120634243390

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-240K-1972-1977-Lowered-King-Springs-/120634243390?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c165c793e#ht_3124wt_976

or alternatively if you know what you want they can make to order but you will have to get in contact with someone who works for king springs and i dont know any one who works there atm

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The conversion I used on QWIK was to use a z31 you can also use a r31 strut, the little difference between the two is the spacing in the rabbit ears for the brakes, the z31 will let you use the z32, r32, r33 brakes without any ear extensions. It dosen't matter if you use z31 or r31 strut you still use the z31 inner suspension, these are about 1 inch lower than the standard 240k and you can get them as HEAVY DUTY, a z31 coilover kit fits straight on them.....This was the easiest way of converting and lowering the front.....This also passes engineering, expesically if you want to use twin spot calipers......

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i would love to see that get through engineering :)

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seriously.. would it? looks a little "unsafe" to me..

im not sure, personally i would change it a bit like weld on a better seat for the spring but the idea isn't 1/2 bad, i wish my engineering knowledge extended to car laws... :<

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The conversion I used on QWIK was to use a z31 you can also use a r31 strut,

im going to be using R31 fronts with kings sport lows to get the standard look

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you can put the z31 inserts in to them and get a one inch drop without comparamising the shocker travel.

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you can buy brand new z31 inserts from pedders, the coilover kits are easily found...Barry from Datsorts will supply all or any of it

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