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August 240Kproject update - warning lots of pics

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Hi Guys,

i figured it was about time to do a little bit of an update on my project (especially since everyone else is getting somewhere!),

2010 has so far been a busy year, unfortunately mostly on things other than the project (getting married tends to do that to you :)), though the last couple of months have been interesting!

(BTW, this whole story will be up on my blog, it may make reading the progress of the project a little easier downt the track as it gets fragmented here)

It all started with an email from a guy in melbourne to my website, he owned a 240K coupe from the late 70's. The coupe had travelled with him for a significant part of his life, and unfurtunately it was time for him to sell up in Australia, and return to his home country. He was looking for somebody to not only buy his car, but to continue giving it the love and attention that he had for so many years.

I agreed to help him find a buyer, and asked him to send through some pictures of the car. The only ones he had were relatively old (and some ancient), but he assured me that the car was still in good condition today.

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I couldn't believe what i was seeing, if this car was truely in the condition that the photo's show, it was going to be an amazing car.. a real original grandma/grandpa car!

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It didn't take long to start thinking about buying the car myself, thankfully my old 240K GT had just been shipped off to Brian, in the US, so there was a nice spot on the driveway just begging for another 240k

I figured in any event, if the car was in good condition, i wouldn't have a problem finding a buyer for it in Sydney (that was, if i didn't decide to store it away somewhere!), so after speaking with the owner, i purchased the car and organised to ship it up to Sydney

Unfortunately there was a delay with the car carrier, and it took longer than expected to arrive, during which i had managed to convince myself that the car couldn't possibly be as good as the photos showed (take for example, any photo of a car for sale on ebay ) and that there would be the usual 240k rust and problem spots on the car.

Well finally the car arrived, and it was everybit as good, if not better, than the photo's! i was truely amazed at how good the bodywork was (straight as a die), even the underside of the car was spotless!. the chrome Trim was a little dinged in places but also relatively good, and surprisingly, very little in the way of surface rust bubbles.

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It was clear after a little investigating that the car had been resprayed at some stage, but it seems to have been done quite well.

It was clearly a car that was too good to give up, and the knowing the previous owner had cared for the car for so long reinforced this fact. The idea of moving all the good bits from my current car came up, and this idea gained more and more ground.

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It was a difficult decision, as there was nothing fundamentally wrong with my current car (plus the countless hours spent stripping and priming it!), but everyone i had asked had concluded that the new car was too good to let go (probably only for the fact that this car was "complete" and not just a shell that had been sitting around for way too long!)

I decided to base the final descision on the bodywork, if i had a good poke around and didn't find anything substantially wrong then i could somehow justify the changeover :)

I pulled of all the trim, took out the interior, checked the firewall, floorpan, boot, engine bay, window frames, doglegs.. nothing substantial, other than a few small areas around the front and rear windows (obviously where the glass had been refitted at some stage), and a small bit of rust from the trim strips under the doors. There were of course the odd bits here and there, but nothing bigger than a fingernail.

The descision was made.. I was going with the new car! which meant pulling everything off my 240K and swapping them over. The side benefit was that i could fully document it all and finally get some pictures of the finer details for things like the suspension.

the decision would mean however, selling my "old" car at some stage in the near future, so expect to see that on the market as soon as i get it all together!

As i had decided before, if you are going to go to the trouble and expense of getting a car painted, there is no point doing it and the having it rust/bubble a couple of years down the track, this meant that i would be, for the 3rd time this project, stripping a car back to bare metal!

Luckily, Adam (Adzmax) was selling a Rotisserie, so i took the plunge and bought it from him (i figure if i am going to do it, may as well do it properly!)..

In the meantime, i stripped the rear suspension and crossmember from the old car, and replaced it with that from the new one.

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Once complete, it was time to pull out the L24 from the new car and to put it aside (it too, will eventually go with the old car, unfortunately breaking the matching numbers :()

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Next, out came the front strut and crossmember

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[More pic's to come]

Finally, i have finished removing the whole interior, and the front and rear windscreen.

Luckily a lot of the rust around the front and rear windscreen is very small, certainly nothing major.

[pic's to come]

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I hope to keep updating this thread as i go (seems much better than scattering across multiple) as well as keeping my blog updated (www.project240k.com).

The next thing on the list, is to get the body mounted to the rotisserie, and get it indoors to start the paint stripping.

I am hoping that by the time i have it all stripped, i will have sold my old car :cry:, and therefore have the funds for the little bodywork required, and hopefully a substantial amount of the painting money :)

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Hi Brad,

yep, the cage is welded in at the moment, i was planning on cutting it out and moving it over as i still want a cage.

I am open to the idea of leaving it in the car as long as the buyer pays the extra (which will be what i paid for it). It is a half cage, and was fabricated and installed by Stewert Wilkins motorsports

I will pm you the details

Kent

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Hi Kent, That looks like a sweet pick up. It looks identical to my Yello one, righ down the the mags. What's the serial number?

So how many coupes have gone through your hands now? It must be getting close to a record.

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Hi Bruce,

it is a 74 model numbered 5497, it is actually not far off my the one it will replace, which is 5627 and a 74 as well!

It actually took me a little while to count them all up, so you know that is got to be a bad thing :), but so far i have had 5 of them;

The project car (my first)

the black and white "rally" car which went to the states

the black one which didn't have ID plates, so ended up being salvaged and junked

The GT, which again, went to the states this year

and finally this one.. (and my last!!)

(i didn't count the "GT-R" brian had me organise to pickup, and send across to the states, but i also had the pleasure of having that around for a while!).

BTW, i still have that oil cooler for the L engine sitting there for you :)

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i believe they started life out as a set of C210 struts that had been converted to coilovers with a weld on style kit, i think they were bought 2nd hand by the previous owner.

I had them rebuilt by Stewert Wilkins with koni adjustables shocks (which he apparently had a few issues getting them to work with the top hats, and also required the make up of spacers underneath etc.).. i actually just posted a few more detailed pics over on my website (i will get a photo of the height adjustment sleeves when i can next). http://www.project240k.com/2010/08/front-suspension-setup

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Hi Guys,

I have had a few guys contact me about buying my "old" car. It is probably going to take me a good month to get all the bits and pieces sorted, and things moved around before i am going to stick it on the market. However, if you are super super keen, let me know (it may motivate me to move faster!) and i can get you some pic's of the car as it is now (and how it was in bare metal etc. if the pics on my website arn't detailed enough)

At this stage, i am looking at selling the car as a rolling shell without the cage, with all the parts to make it whole (including an auto L24, set of gt-r style over fenders, i also have a set of straight front fenders which i will swap over). Reason being that it will save the buyer from having to strip it again to get it painted (and also to save me some time). If the buyer is intending to ship the car interstate/overseas, let me know and we can probably work something out. I also have a manual pedal box luying around which i will find and include in the sale for those wanting to convert.

With regards to the cage, it is welded into the car at the moment, and i will be getting it removed in the near future. If a buyer wants to keep the cage, then i am happy to leave it in the car, but it will add $1100 to the cost of the car (which is exactly what i paid for it, The cage was fabricated by Stewert Wilkins to be "street legal", and he has many many years of rally proven fabrication experience!. copy of the reciept can be included) and i will get another made up for my car by him.

Anyway, more details to come at a later date, but hopefully that answers some questions.

it will be very sad to see this car go

Thanks guys.

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it is a 74 model numbered 5497, it is actually not far off my the one it will replace, which is 5627 and a 74 as well!

Sorry to thread highjack, does anyone own a 73 coupe? I recently had Shannons quote me for insurance and their records show that the 1973 coupe doesn't exist, they start at 1974. The guy quoting said he'd have to put it on his books as a 74 not 73.

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Yeah i have a September '73 coupe.

I must say that its great you managed to pick up another coupe and you may actually get to finish yours soon!

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Mine's a November 1973 coupe,

Kent, It's great that you are sharing your story with the rest of us and giving us such detailed info on your build up. It certainly gives me inspiration for when I will be ready to tackle my project.

Regards: Costas.

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Kent, It's great that you are sharing your story with the rest of us and giving us such detailed info on your build up. It certainly gives me inspiration for when I will be ready to tackle my project.

I am glad to hear it, to be honest, knowing people are following the build give's me a kick up the bum sometimes :) though it is hard sometimes to try and convey the right information into something readable (and workable on the web).

Back when i started, there was very little information available on the C110 (and all of it, was here!).. i figure if i am going to drop so much money into the car, others may as well get the benefit too.. i will one day benefit from overyone else when i get to build my 240Z :)

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kent cant wait to see it in the flesh :>

that is when you finish and show it off ill come down and say hey :>

its a pretty nice concept :> i would love to have one to do a similar thing to

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Just a small update,

Cut out the roll cage, and The car sold today, and was picked up.. sad day.. but glad to get some extra space again.. it has been a LONG time since i have been down to 1 car (the Z doesn't count :) yet)

just waiting on one of the adaptors for the rotisserie to arrive, then it's game on!

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Since the old car has left, the last month has been a little slow.

Finally got the car mounted to the rotisserie, and back in the garage, but it wasn't until last weekend that we finally plucked up the courage to give it a spin ;)

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some higher res pics: http://www.project240k.com/2010/10/spit-240k

Initial impressions are excellent, the bottom of the car seems as good, if not better than the topside. No major rust to speak of and with the exception of a dent in the mounts for the rubber "scraper" below the fuel lines it is in very good condition.

I was planning to strip the underside completely with paint stripper, but there really isn't any need. I will probably just rough it up and epoxy over the top. I am then in 2 minds if i should use POR again (probably not much poitn over epoxy), or go with a normal 2 pak chassis black etc. followed by a bitumen sealer. I would like to have the best protection possible (not that it would be driven daily, but rather better to do it once properly!). I would welcome some ideas from those who have done this before!

I also eyed up my larger fuel lines that i bent up from the fuel lines off the old car.. not far off, but again.. it is going to be much easier to put them in with the car on the side (going with the 2 standard lines are returns, and a larger 5/16" (from memory) steel bundy line as the main feed.

you can't imagine how much easier it is to work with the car on it's side!

Kent

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Hi Guys,

I have decided to try and keep all my updates into a single thread (i have a bad habit of starting new ones) here along with www.project240k.com

The past 7 months have been a bit of a roller coaster, but hopefully things will settle down again now.

Major updates over the last few months included:

October 2010:

Continued to chip off the factory sound deadening on the interior as well as paint stripping the engine bay and roof. Started to strip the rear quarters but hitting bog sure slows things down

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March 2011:

Unfortunately with my mates passing, i had to move the 240K from his place along with all the parts i had acquired over the past 8 years. Space was going to be a problem, so i decided that the best way forward would be to send the car away to get sandblasted.

The car was removed from the rotisserie and delivered to a media blaster in newcastle.

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May 2011:

The sandblaster had been delayed with some equipment failures and general bad weather, but got an update today with some pictures. The shell is completely stripped along with the doors and front quarter panels. Only the bonnet and boot lid remain to be done.

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The majority of rust seems to be around previous (rust) repaired areas, and looks like a little bit of accident damage in the rear drivers side quarter. Spoke to the body shop next door for them to quote on fixing it up, he seems to think that the shell is actually quite good and finding a better one would be difficult, but there are a number of areas to be attended to.

I had originally planned just to get it epoxy primed and the underside/engine bay painted.. leave the bodywork until later, however i am starting to think that this will just end up costing me more in the long run and that maybe i am better off leaving it up there for a while, paying them in installments to complete the work required in batches (which of course is substantial.. as any thing is in this car game).

In any event, it seems that it will take a little longer for me to get the engine in.

anyway, that is the latest for now.

Kent

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good to see some progress, shame about them few spots but nothing to serious.

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