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'71 240Z What do you think?

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I am telling you, I like the fact that my Red 110 has white interior....gives it a creamsicle look to it (orange on the outside, white on the inside)...

...but heck, that blue interior is just gorgeious (sp)....just really really makes the interior look great...

By the way, the switch from the old 4 speed to even what I got (a 77 5 speed) is just unbelievable....

The shifting is so smooth, and you don't really have to push the shifter, you basically are just guiding it and the synchros are much more like a modern car...highly recommended just based upon the way it shifts.

I might recommend the newer 5 speeds in the ZX....a bad shift out of 5th and you grind the Reverse (they are on the same shift lever inside the tranny)...but I wanted the same exact ratios on 1-4 as they were on the 4 speed...just wanted a 5th overdrive for cruising to the beach.

Take care,

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I have the type A tranny shift reducing kit from MSA installed on my 77 type A 5 speed....

Prior to that, I just had brand new plastic bushings, which took all the slop out, I think they were like $1.50 from MSA each....just replace the stock ones for getting slop out.

The reducing kit is great on the type A tranny....makes the shifts much smaller, your elbow doesn't have to move much now!

Take care,

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dogma420,

It's my second. See my pics of my '78 280Z we redid. It's one reason I think this car is worth the $ because alot of what we went thru on the 280Z is already done. Marty is this kit for a type A tranny? I was aware of one for a type B. My '78 5 speed has its bushings replaced.

The Nismo shift kit I am describing is only for a type A tranny. It basically replaces the rubber bushings with aluminum ones, or in the case of the knock off kit, delrin. Either one gives a very positive shift with a lot less slop.

Marty

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The Nismo shift kit I am describing is only for a type A tranny. It basically replaces the rubber bushings with aluminum ones, or in the case of the knock off kit, delrin. Either one gives a very positive shift with a lot less slop.

Marty

Marty, When you go to your 5 speed I'd be interested in your kit. Thanks! Anyone know if they are still available from NISMO?

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Type A as far as I know, all takes the same shift kit, up to 1978...then the 280zx changed to Type B, which requires difference linkage...

I could be completely wrong....but I do know that MSA sells 2 kits, one for 70-78 4spd/5spd and one kit for 79-83s and the later one they don't have any in stock for, and explicitely explain that the short shift kit doesn't reduce it as much...

I guess we could search, as this tranny topic has been discussed to death...I was just trying to recall off the top of my head and didn't want to doublecheck cause I'm lazy sort of :tapemouth

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Jmark,

That's the one.

The Type A tranny was only used on the '70 and early '71 models. When they swithed to the "Type II" series 240Z, they switched to the Type B tranny. All the 5spds are considered Type B trannies too.

Dogma, the short shift kit is a different product that what we are discussing here. We are discussing a bushing only kit.

I would sell you my delrin kit for $15. I would like to wait until I have the 5 spd in my hands though, if you don't mind waiting.

Marty

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Thanks Marty. I may go ahead and get the NISMO kit. I think my car is an early Series II car. It has the vertical rear window defogger and gas door latch but side air vents. Here is a pic of the original warranty card w/date & VIN. I think it should be a type A tranny.

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My bad...

Type A is the tranny where the shifter is closer to the bellhousing Type B are the others...

But the ZX 5 speed is slightly modified in regards to the bracket that holds the shifter in place.

I knew I was wrong...thanks Bambi!

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What's the build date stamped into the door jam?

Check Bambi's response: "Notation at the bottom of that page indicates it's for 240Z's mfg'd up to 8/71"

If you have a Series II, you have a Type B tranny and this kit won't fit.

Marty

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Thanks Marty,

My bad...

I was wondering, I know for a fact that the stock bushings make a huge difference from the old worn out ones to just new ones (the 2 side ones and the ball part that drops into tranny)....what kind of difference is there between new stock and the performance ones you have? Any links on where to get them?

Thank you very much in advance.

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jamrk,

I went back and looked at your pictures again. Your car has the ash tray in front of the shifter, so it DOES have a Type A tranny.

You said it has vertical defrosters? And I see it has the fresh air vents on the side instead of the hatch. It appears that you have one of the transition cars. Right on the edge of the change over to the new style.

Dogma said: "I was wondering, I know for a fact that the stock bushings make a huge difference from the old worn out ones to just new ones (the 2 side ones and the ball part that drops into tranny)....what kind of difference is there between new stock and the performance ones you have? Any links on where to get them?" What you are describing sounds like a Type B trans. The kit that I have and what jmark showed from the Courtesy website are for the Type A trans only. I have seen sound so-called "performance bushings" for the Type B trans on Ebay, but I have not first hand knowledge of how well they work. Anybody out there use those??

Marty

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Marty,

I think the build date on my 240Z is 2/71. So that NISMO kit should work fine. My '78 280Z 5 speed has the bushing kit I got from Chloe at Midwest Z and it helped the shift feel alot. It is just a couple of replacement bushings as I recall.

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Yeah, I'm talking type B, mine is a 10/71 (1972 model year)...I noticed the link was for Series I 240z's (or type A trannies).....

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Jmark,

That's the one.

The Type A tranny was only used on the '70 and early '71 models. When they swithed to the "Type II" series 240Z, they switched to the Type B tranny. All the 5spds are considered Type B trannies too.

Actually, beginning with the Series-III 1972 Model Year Start According To Nissan the New Features For The 72 Model Year Included:

Flip Forward Seats, New Hub Caps, Center Console Redesigned, Gas Tank Door Latch Eliminated, 5 Inch Wide Wheels Made Standard, New 4sp. Trans. Design, Rear End Moved Rearward 35mm (about 1.5 inches), Auto Seat Belt Retractors, Seat Belt Warning Buzzer & Seat Belt Warning Light

(This production began around 9/71 or 10/71)

Mark: FWIW, most Z's (HLS30-U) produced prior to 12/71 had vertical defroster grids. This inclues Series I, II, and the earliest Series III versions. My 11/71 Series III has vertical defrosters. But I agree, your car (if mfg'd in 2/71 would be a Series II)

FWIW to anyone, I measured on my spare "A" and "B" transmissions.

On the "A" trans, the shifter mounts EXTERNALLY 31 inches from the front edge of the bell housing.

On the "B" trans, the shifter mounts INTERNALLY 29 inches from the front edge of the bell housing

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I ordered the NISMO shift kit from Courtesy Nissan. So it is still available from Nissan for the early type A tranny.

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Jmark, i have all we need to do ANY thing but make the hose, just let me know!

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Jmark, i have all we need to do ANY thing but make the hose, just let me know!
Thanks Don. I'll be in touch soon. The owner bought a metal splice fitting so you can cut out the bad part of the hose and join the two hoses together. He will include with the car. If that works it will just need a charge I guess. Any help you can give me would be appreciated.

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I have the original 4-speed "A" tranny and the 5-speed "B" tranny standing beside each other. (on blocks) The "B" shifter has a severe bend in it and it appears to come out about the same place as the "A". It appears that I will not have any problem putting the 5-speed into my 2-71 Z.

I checked my plastic storage boxes and found a sack of nylon bushings for the "B" tranny. I remember ordering these from Datsun back in the late 70's. They sent me a sack of 10. I have 7 left! I cannot believe that I remembered these bushings and where I put them after 30+ years. :knockedou

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I can't speak to a 5 speed, but if you were going from an "A" 4-speed to a "B" 4-speed in a 2/71 mfg'd S30, you'd have to enlarge the hole in the trans tunnel to make it work.

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