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Replacement Rear Covers for Headlamps?

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Is there anywhere to get the covers for the headlamps that go inside the fender?

On a 280Z?

thx.

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Nothing wrong with the fender, or the headlight casting. I wanted the protective cover that goes on the back.

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That must be 280 thing. There is no such thing on a 240. You should call Chloe anyway. She is very resourceful and a club supporter.

Marty

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26029-E4600 COVER-HEAD LAMP (RUBBER) Qty. req. 2

That's the part if you are reffering to the rubber covers that go over the prongs on the headlights before you plug the connector in. I belive that they were on all Z cars originally but may have been lost in the shuffle over the years.

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Thanks for that info. Cloe mentioned those rubbers to me on the phone.

BUT, the covers I am looking for are a hard plastic thing like a bowl that goes inside the fender behind the headlight assy, and attaches to the fender with some pronged pins, like door panels. Probably protects the headlight from rocks & stuff. I'm considering that it might be something that somebody bodged in there, but it looked so good that I thought it was a factory part. It was just covered with undercoating and was starting to crack.

thx.

sorry no pic on that.

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In the early 280, with the "sugar scoop" headlamps, and the same fender from 240 on, the front headlights had a metal "acorn" or cup that held the headlamp, holder and adjusting mechanism attached to it. The wiring also went through a hole in the acorn. These then were mounted to the backside of the front fender with a rubber gasket.

I don't recall right off the top of my head if it's the fender that holds the screws for the acorn or the other way around, but there were no Plastic acorns to the best of my knowledge.

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Enrique

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Tomohawk, are you talking about a clear or smoked plastic headlignt cover? I don't mean the aerodynamic type that you see on many Zs but the type that is round and fits over the lignt itself? I used to have some of those on my truck but they were aftermarket.

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I believe that he's talking about the front inner fender covers that I also believe only came on 78, and maybe 77 280Z's. The '78 parts car I took apart had them (and I still have them). The new '78 CA car that I have does not. They are plastic liners that cover all the way from the headlight bucket, go along the top of the fender (inside) and then back down along the rear of the fender well. They are attached to the inside of the fender with small bolts, which are still there in my CA car, so I assume it originally had the plastic liners, but they are now gone. The plastic liners I have are in mediocre shape, and I figure on trying to figure out how to fix the cracks and use them on the CA car, but it isn't a priority. Shall I take pictures?

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Originally posted by Victor Laury

Tomohawk, Is this part illustrated on the parts-fiche CD?

I don't see what I am talking about in my last post, although there seem to be some similar parts around 63830-N4200 on fiche 126-7. Looks like there were some changes over time, but there were protectors under the fender from about 1976 on.

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I think I would suggest fixing them by first blasting off any undercoating, then glueing on a layer of something like limoleum over the wholething to make it uniform.

Otherwise, just blast and possibly even a layer of rhino lining material. Obviously, the best solution would be to make exact copies in EPOXY KEVLAR, for best flexibility & burability.

But thanks for finally figuring out what part (i think) I'm talking about ! I believe those are different pieces from in tinner fender things screwed to the unibody.

Just still can't figiure out how to my arm in that little wire hole to get at the headlight plug to clean it. I think I will end up cutting a big hole.

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:stupid: Duh! I have a 78 with those liners. I actually went to the car and took them off to look for what I thought TomoHawk was talking about! I don't know what years they came on and I didn't find them on the microfiche either but they are on my 78 which is a California car.

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I believe these are the two pieces TomoHawk spoke of. Actually they are four pieces since they come apart for headlight removal. Mine are in really decent shape. Unscientific research in the junkyards seem to inicate that the were on the 74 1/2 260 through the 78 280 as the earlier cars didn't have the holes for them. Didn't see any good ones in the yards I went to. They all seemed to be pretty well thrashed. All this talk has made me remove mine and clean them up!

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Mine look pretty different. They are all one piece, and extend from the headlights all the way back to the little rubber flap that seals off the rear fender. Pic attached. The headlight area is at the bottom, and you can see some pieces of the rubber flaps attached at the top where the hand is holding them up.

sblake01, thanks for taking your pic - it prompted me to get off my butt and out to the garage to take mine!

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Oh, and there are little clips that clip these to the wheel-well edge, in addition to about 8 screws from front to back. I didn't like the clips much.

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Than you, Steven!

I really didn't want to stir up all the trouble, but I really thought the piece was MUCH smaller, to cover the area behind the headlamp., so you could get at the lamp's plug.

Do you think that I could just cut/remove the front part, to get at the headlamp wiring, then make a new piece to stick in there (Like a piece of rubber "welcome mat")?

Mr. brandy- It looks to me like your picture is of the inner fenderwell, which attaches to the side of the unibody; I remember that from my last 280.

Disclaimer: I don't usually make a big thing about stuff, but the easy things I can find using the SEARCH

FEATURE!

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Mine are different from mdbrandy's. The do come apart so that you can get to the headlight. Three 10mm bolts and two phillips screws. Mine is a 78 if that make any difference.

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Mine is a 78 too. I didn't notice the bolts because of all the undercoatring :devious:

I'll keep it in mind if/when I get my car back (c. mid-April)

thx.

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Originally posted by sblake01

Mine are different from mdbrandy's. The do come apart so that you can get to the headlight. Three 10mm bolts and two phillips screws. Mine is a 78 if that make any difference.

The car that these came off of was a '78 as well. Production date of 5/78, so it was fairly late in the model year. My "good" '78 280Z is also a 5/78 car, and it has all the same bolts in the same places as the other one. Just doesn't have the plastic liner any more.

And Tomohawk, you're not making a "big thing" at all - this is the kind of conversation that keeps this board alive - finding out all the differences between our cars, and sometimes tracking down why we have what we have!

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I remember my 75 having pieces similar to Stephen's, all those plastic splash shields went into the dumpster when I stripped it out to race many years ago....:stupid:

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No worries! I just feel kinda wierd sometimes because I usually get these peculiar problems. Good thing the info is something wverybody can use! But I DO see a problem that these pieces will be difficult, if not impossible, to get new or reproduction.

Just get yours out, clean off all the junk, and copy the pattern onto some rubber matting, no?

One less problem to work on now...

:D

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