Arne
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It has made the rounds... http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36588&highlight=bre+tribute -
Mike, it looks like you condensed the font in height a bit, is that so? Did you note a percentage?
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Vertical defrost lines were used partway through '72.
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Understood, Adam. No problems. The final version of the DATSUN shade will have the same thicker, extended font as the 240-Z version. Both I and the manufacturer recall that there was a DATSUN version way back when, but neither of us can find any pictures of the original to compare to. He is certain that the same typeface was used for all of them, so that's what we are basing this on. Trying to duplicate the known look of the 240-Z shade and then using the same font, weight and kerning settings for the DATSUN one.
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Adam, can you explain your concerns with the font as attached in post #106?The end goal from the very beginning has always been to reproduce a very popular period accessory for S30 cars here in the USA and Canada. At the beginning of the process we were working with the belief that all of the original dies and stencils still existed and were useable. As we progressed, neither has been the case. The manufacturer has been great, even though his quote was based on using existing tooling, he has worked with me far more extensively than planned to re-create the needed tooling, at the original quoted price. Neither of us expected this project to be as time intensive as it has become. We are still open to modifications at this time, but since most buyers have expressed an interest in these being as close to original as possible any modifications would need to be small tweaks, as most people I've conversed with seem to feel that the latest iteration are very close. If this is not what you had in mind for the pair that you ordered and paid for, I will happily send you a check back and return your reserved parts to the available pool.
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Appliance brand "DiaMag". Lug nuts can be bought here:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/16-LUG-NUTS-FOR-APPLIANCE-WHEELS-ROTO-LUGS-12MM-1-25_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5189f931bdQQitemZ350207160765QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_1329wt_1167
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Nope, those are aftermarket slotted mags. Very common on early Zs, but definitely NOT stock. In '76, all Zs in the USA were built with only one choice - 14x5.0" steel rims with wheel covers. There were no factory-installed options in the USA until '77-78. There were many different dealer-installed rims, but they weren't "stock".
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All payments for current requests have now arrived. Updated availability stats (12/7/09): Item | 240-Z | DATSUN | Total | ------------------------------------------- Ordered | 40 | 24 | 64 | Paid for | 36 | 21 | 57 | Pending | 0 | 0 | 0 | ------------------------------------------- Available | 4 | 3 | 7 |
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The key lock was not standard (just used a non-locking twist knob), so it's not at all surprising that the door key doesn't fit. I'm afraid that if the correct key is not available, you may be forced to have a locksmith look at it, or drill out the lock yourself.
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Plenty of original owners out there. I have a close-by neighbor (not a member here) who's had his since August, 1970.
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I've connected my headlight and parking light relays to the battery terminal on the starter solenoid rather than the battery terminal itself. Much cleaner looking.
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Neither Eibach nor anyone else currently builds stock replacement springs for 240Z, to my knowledge. Arizona Z Cars offers a much stiffer performance spring that doesn't lower the car, but that about it today. Actually, I've never heard of Eibach making non-performance springs for any cars. Where did you hear of these?
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Definitely 10mm, and between 60-70 mm long. I can't remember if they are 1.25 or 1.5 pitch.
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Final size of the new product will be reduced from the 5 1/8" of the test papers to 4.5-4.75" to match measurements taken from originals. The logo characters will be 3" tall. Still working to optimize the curve of the top edge, while allowing for the fact that there will be differences from car to car depending on the condition and manufacturer of the windshield gasket. I think we're actually real close on this now. Latest work on the font/typeface is attached.
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Richard, it wouldn't be totally original, but most hydraulic shops should be able to build replicas for you. No hose clamps needed.
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Due to some late requests, I have increased the order of the 'DATSUN' sunshades from 20 to 24. We are approaching the time when no further additions will be possible, so if you are interested and haven't got on board yet, don't wait much longer. The changes to the template size and shape have slowed the process some. I no longer think it likely that these will be shipped prior to Christmas. Possible, but not likely. Sorry for the delays, but we all want them to be right, and that is taking time. Updated availability stats (12/7/09): Item | 240-Z | DATSUN | Total | ------------------------------------------- Ordered | 40 | 24 | 64 | Paid for | 35 | 21 | 56 | Pending | 1 | 0 | 1 | ------------------------------------------- Available | 4 | 3 | 7 |
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Excellent info, Michael, thank you! I have forwarded that and a couple of the pictures to the manufacturer for additional template tweaking. Best guess on the font at this point is that BRE and the original Bolder Tints used something very similar to "Eurostile Bold Extended #2".
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To clarify a little - the headlight bucket assembly is attached to the inside of the fender by four screws. You change the headlight by removing the four screws and the bucket assembly from inside the wheel opening. So there is no reason that you body guy can't install the headlight scoops as necessary, because you won't need to remove them to install or service the lights later.
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None of this makes sense. The headlight buckets mount to the INSIDE of the fender. No need to disturb the scoops at all. Tell the guy to ignore the headlights and get to work.
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Mark, I just saw this thread. I think what you may want to find is a set of the Nissan Euro Stage 1 springs - either original or a set of the reproduction set that Courtesy sold a few years ago. I'm betting someone around here still has a set from the Courtesy run. What those of us who installed those springs found was they they will raise the ride height of a US-spec 240Z by at least 3/4". I had to cut down my set significantly to get the ride height back down to stock. If you are truly wanting to raise yours to higher than stock height, those would be what I would use.
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While my car still has the old 38 year old vinyl and foam, I have personally seen the replacement covers sold by Classic Datsun Motorsport on another car, and they are an amazingly accurate match for my originals. They are probably what I will use when the time comes someday.
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Richard, I'd still consider replacing it, despite it's apparent good condition. I recently replaced the original on my '71, only because the top flange was so crushed that the gas cap ring would no longer seal and gas would slosh out if I turned left turn with the tank full. The key issue is that while I felt that the original was not bad other than the top flange, I was amazed at how soft and flexible the new replacement was. If yours is stiff and hard, I'd guess that it will be hard to get it to seal well. I got mine from my local dealer, part #17208-N3050, price after club discount was less than $80.
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Perhaps, and I'll be researching that angle as well. But on the other hand, the current BRE website graphics make heavy use of what appears to be the same font. It will be interesting to see if I get any response, and what that response might be.
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Yes, Carl, I did. That was before we found that some of the original stencils were missing. So we are working on that now. On Friday I sent a message to info@bre2.net to inquire about the use of the original BRE font. No reply yet, but it's the weekend. If you've got any influence with Peter and Gayle, it might help.
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The paint underneath that film better be damn smooth. You'll see every chip and flaw under it. If you're going to have to put that much effort into the prep, you might as well just paint it anyway.
