MickieB

Ahhh man what an old tramp, is all i can say. The last comment amused me, the lady saying they shouldn't have been out that late cause something could have happened to them... Yeah something like being sued! Man she shouldn't act like she gives a crap about their well being and then sue. Shoulda laced her cookies with rat kill....

No i love the stock spec R spoiler. I wouldn't go putting a massive GT wing on it or something like that, just the stock one. I can't stand cars without spoilers, all these boys take off their spoilers atm cause it's fashion, but they're also the ones going to the drag strip trying to bust out big times when it's most needed. Sorry i hate the townsville ricers, more dollars then sense.

Yeah but the s14 has an ugly rear end, and i'm all for looks with my speed (eg, the zed). I think the spec s is the go then. I can put a spoiler on later if i want. Gotta get the money first though hey!

You sure it's got nothing to do with persformance? Seems a bit foul to whack a GT badge on there if it'll perform less.. I must look in to this more....

Nah the GT has extras like the in dash 6 stacker, and the sunroof. And i figure if i'm going to be up to my neck in debt, i may aswell get the best i can hey.

Well the example on prestige is only $9200, and it's in very good condition. Can't get it anymore though, but there's one in toowoomba for 20k that is claimed to be in show room condition, and it's got some nice mods done, and i could go see it first. But i'll see, my mate will kill me if i buy one cause he wants one so badly. Any other ideas of luxory sports cars? (Not soarers) Also i'm looking at the spec R-GT 200sx. It's a mid 2002 model, so not yet three years old, resonably priced considering how new it is and what you get, and it's NISSAN! If i go for this car i'll have to wait a bit longer to get some more cash under my belt. Also correct me if i'm wrong, but won't insurance be cheaper cause it was sold locally?

Yeah they're sexy. You don't realise the fuel consumption till you see the top model (the one i'd want) has an 80L tank stock... Although the rotory sorta speaks for itself on fuel consumption. But yeah i want a weekend car, i'll have a bike for during the week, don't need to afford it as a daily driver.

If i bought a Cefiro i have a friend who would KILL me. I'm actually looking at the Eunos Cosmo. Nice car. The 80L fuel tank is a tad daunting though...

Hahahaha good call alfadog. I have thought of the GTi-R a bit, but i really don't want another hatch back hey.

Cool, wasn't sure. You can buy my mirage justin, i'll give it to you for a bargain price of way more than it's worth. Let's say, 7k neg? I think that is a fairly inflated value for a car that's pushing 300k on the dial since '97. Excuse my sarcasm, i still can't believe i was stupid enough to buy it, and now it's going to be impossible to sell for the sort of money i need. But yeah if you are interested in it make me an offer haha, though i wouldn't advise it.

Yeah VL's suck major balls. So much. The guitarist in my band wants one so bad. I told him if he gets it he's not using it to get to gigs, that'll make us look bad. And yeah, san maru, if you mean the Swift GTI, i've had enough of hatch backs, got one now. Want something sporty to compliment my zed haha. Man i hate vl's, so badly. I don't see why people think they're good. Only good thing about them is the jap motor. I know they're quick cars Justin, but only one i'd buy is.... No wait none of them... . It's hard to explain what i'm looking for. Kinda luxory sport i guess. But not at the same time. It's odd. Plus i want a good looking car, cause i'm superficial.

Yeah i'm friends with Nathan's sister and i always get his name wrong... Oh well... In my ongoing hunt for a new car, i would go for a 180sx except that straight away people look down on your in townsville. Especially the law.

Yeah justin i was generalising. I know morgan and ummm nick is it? (180SR) are pretty cool. But the strand rats are wankers. And the worst thing is, they have a warped reality of just how good their cars are. Sorry to tell them, but a 14 second pass isn't anything special, but to them it is.

Yeah but why does it have to be that wankers drive them? This might just be speaking for townsville though.

NO WE CAN'T! HOW GOOD IS THAT!? The way i see it is, now the flow of S13's has been stopped, i'll start taking them out one by one, and soon they'll all be gone! No apologies to s13 owners, your cars are crap, if you read this forum anyway, you're in the right place to get a better model

Yeah that's right i think. No more at all, any year.

All cars under 15 years old that could already be imported still can be Gav, it's just the ones 15 years or older that have changed.

Nah the problem is that the SEVS rules are too unworkable. Also a lot of cars won't be put under that scheme either, so for example if you want a nice nissan (R32 GTR, 300zx, s13 silvia/180sx, GTi-R) too bad, they're not importable. This is taking the rights away from us to chose the better car.

We still got guns man. We just don't shoot people with them so it's all good.. I agree though, that is the strongest point against it, they're taking away our right. Our right to choose cheaper better quality cars over the junk that's already here.

They'll be the zeds of that age! Like my 30 yr old beast hehe. Wow imagin a GTR looking like my zed. That makes me sad to think of

I'm real angry about this happening. I had an R32 GTR import on the cards for later this year. But now i can't get it at all Prob get a GTO or something now. So i can have fun while i restore the zed hehe.

I'm all worked up about this so if i start talking i'll just shoot off my mouth, so i'll paste below an e-mail i recieved tonight. A Media Release today by the Minister for Local Government, Territories and Roads, the HON. JIM LLOYD MP, spells the effective death of the 15 year rule as we know it. This is reproduced below for your information. In essence, from today 7th Feb 2005, only 1988 and older vehicles can be imported under the 15 year rule. This will be gradually increased to 30 years over time. All other vehicles for road use must be imported under SEVS. Anyone who can prove a financial commitment to a 1989 or 1990 vehicle prior to today's announcement will be exempted from the changes and will still be entitled to an Import Approval once the vehicle is 15 years old. The statement mentions "a level playing field", obviously to the Australian Govt. this involves sheltering our small and uneconomical local market from imports by grossly and unfairly restricting what is allowed in after conducting limited community / industry consultation. Not sure what happened to free trade or a fair go in this case. And this is after setting up SEVS as a means to control the import numbers of a restricted selection of vehicles, leading to less consumer choice and much higher prices. If you have any comments about the changes please direct these to the contact points shown at the end of the statement. --------------------------------- L11/05 Monday February 7 2005 MINISTER ANNOUNCES CLOSURE OF CAR IMPORT LOOPHOLE A plan to tighten Australia’s vehicle importation laws that will reinforce motor vehicle safety and emission standards was announced today by the Minister for Local Government, Territories and Roads, Jim Lloyd. “The Government is closing a loophole that has enabled mainstream cars over 15 years of age to be imported in commercial quantities, and not subjected to safety and emission certification,” Mr Lloyd said. “Importers of these cars were using an exemption that allows hobbyists and enthusiasts to import classic and historic cars. This exemption exists as these vehicles generally perform low mileages and are limited in numbers, and therefore represent a minimal risk to overall Australian vehicle and safety goals. “Without such an exemption, the private importation of these types of older, collectible cars would become uneconomic. “The closure of this loophole will only apply to those vehicles which do not fit in the classic and historic category, thus preserving the ability of hobbyists and enthusiasts to obtain older classic cars and historic vehicles.” Mr Lloyd said a transitional arrangement would be provided for other vehicle importers who had current commitments to bring in vehicles under the old rule. “The changeover is being introduced gradually, to allow importers and consumers time to react to the revised focus of the exemption,” Mr Lloyd said. Under the new rule: Vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1989 may be imported without restriction. Vehicles built during 1989 (or later) will need to qualify under the Registered Automotive Workshop Scheme (RAWS) and will need to be certified as complying with Australian Design Rules (applicable at the date of manufacture). To qualify under RAWS, vehicle models must meet the specialist and enthusiast criteria. The buffer period (between collectible vehicles and mainstream vehicles) will be gradually extended over time – up to a maximum of 30 years. A transitional arrangement will also be established. Those importers who have already made a financial commitment before today on a vehicle manufactured in 1990 intended for future import, will be allowed to bring the vehicle into the country under the old rule up to the end of December 2005. “This new rule will re‑instate a ‘level playing field’ within the industry. Vehicles supplied to the same market will be subject to the same regulatory environment, substantially reducing cost pressures on mainstream businesses,” Mr Lloyd said. Media inquiries: Mr Lloyd’s office: Fiona Telford 02 6277 7060 Technical inquiries: Department of Transport and Regional Services: Justin Bryan 02 6274 7426

Nah i think that modern holdens and fords have lost the plot even more! With the exception of the monaro they're just family cars with juicy engines! I drive a BA XR6, and it handles TERRIBLY. Especially in the wet. I'm very unimpressed. I'm not saying this to put down aussie car makers. My hate comes from the fact they wanna stop grey imports and make us all buy aussie cars. Which would be fine if we made some to compete with the jap cars, which we really don't. Especially not at an affordable price. Tha's my 2 cents, sorry if that annoys ppl hehe.

I hate aussie rice... Australian made cars annoy me with their inferiority; giving us a bad name..

That is such a beautiful car. I would love to restore one of them. Just so you could go cruising in it. That would be a nice low rider