Bambikiller240

So, ask for a camera for your BD, or early Christmas. Doesn't one of your friends have a camera that could take a pic for you? Ask the local police to borrow one of their pics of you? "Yeah, That's the ticket!"

I have you all immortalized on my hard drive, with user name and real name. If it doesn't crash before end of the year, I'll have my own voting on this subject. Don't think I'll be able to post the results as I might end up being the winner. :stupid: Unless James (ZmeCruise) gets off his duff and posts. Still waiting for more of the women to post. I sent PM's to Chloe, Kelly, and Shannon tonight, inviting them to participate. ..........No response yet.

Old is a relative term, and is often used by ""kids" () to describe "worldly, wise, and experienced gentlemen."

Your turn ZmeCruise, come on now, Dee Dee and the rest of us are waiting! Snot!

Makes sense to me.

OK, Mark. Got it! Thanks

Keith: When/If you find it, could you post it to the Technical Articles section, or if it's a link to a website, email the link to me and I will rewrite it, if needed; so that it can reside in our club database. Howz your camera? Hint, Hint!

The supported contention was that a mixture of water and antifreeze is more efficient than straight antifreeze, right? But (if I'm reading the charts and you correct) this doesn't relate to whether antifreeze/water mix is more efficient at thermal transfer than straight water, right? This I believe to be different from how much heat antifreeze/water mix an hold without boiling. I'm definitely not a scientist, and definitely not trying to start an argument or be critical here, just trying to make sure that I understand. If I'm wrong on these statements, please try to clarify. Thanks.

No worries mate! But, Why don't you copy your post on this subject to the Tech Article thread so that this information will be viewable to others who read the one that I posted there? I only moderate that one forum, otherwise I'd copy it there myself. ( I can delete or move stuff OUT, but I can't move stuff INTO that forum)

Daniel: I got caught up in the discussion :stupid: , as to the shielding properties ( the "antifreeze" form a protective sleeve in your engine to keep the hot from the metal") seemed to be touted as beneficial, or a reason for antifreeze to be used; rather than something to be "lived with" to gain the other benefits of ethylene glycol. I live in Northern CA and while we don't get snow in my area, we do regularly see freezing tempuratures as early as November and as late as April. We also regularly see tempuratures in the 90 to 105 degree F. range as early as late May and as late as Mid October. I have been using about 20% antifreeze, 80% water, and Red Line Water Wetter in the winter, and water only with Water Wetter in the summer for the past 3 years. My engine stays remarkably cool in the summer (I have added a fan shroud to improve airflow through the radiator in summer time stop and go traffic) and never have experienced problems with freezing in the winter. The Water Wetter has an anticorrosive package in it so that base is covered when there is no antifreeze in my car. The best part of this thread is the information that you, mdbrandy, and myself have spelled out for other members to learn from.

Thanks for the translation and information on "Elephant" being a brand of oil I was just looking at the two oil caps that I have which are of the "Elephant" type. It seems that there are at least two varieties of "Elephant" cap. One is made to be used with a Valve cover that has a completely flat mating surface. This cap has a place for an O-ring to be installed on it's lower sealing surface. The other variety of "Elephant" cap is made for use with a Valve cover that has a groove in the valve cover for an O-ring to be seated, and the cap's sealing surface is completely flat. I have not idea which was used first, or second, or if they were intermixed in usage.

Hi Brett240: You may want to read the Tech Article that was posted to the site today. It offers a different view on the "benefits" of using distilled water in a cooling system that contains large amounts of aluminum. You can find it HERE

My point is that antifreeze is not any kind of shield (to heat), it does not keep "hot" from metal. See EDIT at bottom The coolant, whether water or a mixture, is there to transfer the heat out of the system. Antifreeze's purpose is to keep the fluid mixture (water AND antifreeze mixture) from freezing in the radiator tubes, it's anticorrosive elements are there to protect the metal of the system from being disolved by the water in the mixture over time. I have no doubt that 50/50 mix is better than straight antifreeze, for the overall needs of the engine. i.e. protection from freezing and corrosion protection, but it is not more efficient at transfering heat. Quoting from Red Line Products website: Water has twice the heat transfer capability when compared to 50% glycol antifreeze/coolant in water. Most passenger automobiles have a cooling system designed to reject sufficient heat under normal operating conditions using a 50/50 glycol solution in water. However, in racing applications, the use of water and WaterWetter® will enable the use of smaller radiator systems, which means less frontal drag, and it will also reduce cylinder head temperatures, even when compared to water alone, which means more spark advance may be used to improve engine torque. If anyone is interested, there is much more data to be found by following the link below. Tech Information from Red Line Corp. **EDIT Actually in that antifreeze/water mix is less efficient at removing heat, it is a shield; but that IMHO is NOT a benefit, it is a drawback that must be lived with in order to receive the benefits of ethylene glycol. Anticorrosives can be purchased separately.

This is true, but you, ZmeCruise, and Alfapuppy are the only ones that are making excuses for not posting photos. So come on, and post. I promise that you won't hear any of the laughter (we'll be Vewy, Vewy Quiet!) :devious:

GWB and Cheney are taking care of that with all the billions of tax dollars they're pumping OUT of the taxpayers pocket's and INTO the pocket's of their pals at Haliburton and Bechtel, in order to "rebuild" Iraq and to get the OIL out of Iraq, at a hefty profit.

If the "hot" never comes in contact with the metal due to anti-freeze properties, how does a radiator cool the "hot" water. The heat must be transfered to the metal so that air flow can transfer the "hot" out of the closed system into the air as it flows through the radiator.

It's already posted under Tech Articles >Cooling System Flush and Anti-Freeze

I'd have the radiator backflushed and probably Rodded out. Lots of sediment could be packed into the core blocking flow through some of the tubes can't help with this one, sorry The way I've done it is with a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle. Filling from the bottom hose until it pours out the thermo housing, then releasing the garden hos so the block drians in a rush. I do that until no more sediment comes out of the block. I never use chemicals, as I fear they will do damage to the aluminum head. Just my opinion. ****Look for a Cooling System Flush and Anti-Freeze Tech Article to be posted later today. Carl

Hi Matt: Yes, I live in Pleasanton, but Thunderhill is many hours away from me, up north. Pleasnton does get a lot of fog, as we are in a inland valley, so we get what is called "Tule fog" that hugs the ground. I haven't taken the car to T-Hill yet, but one of these seasons, I plan to.

DeeDee, check your Private messages.

I'm assuming that you are refering to the engine side of things. You can either connect the two fitting on the engine via a "loop" of hose, or you can plug each with a 2-3" piece of hose and a bolt to form a plug, and a hose clamp. Does not really matter which way you go about it. Where do you live in So Cal that you don't need a heater/defroster? Windows don't fog? Carl

prolly hard while painting. How do I get a job doing that kind of "art"work

Au contrare, my pic has been posted since Friday. You, James, and Alfapuppy (among others) and the female members (DeeDee excepted) are the laggards. Come on now, we know you have a digicam PS, is it just me or is DeeDee CUTE or WHAT?

Bad Tailshaft seal?