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I have a set of Libre's sitting in my garage. They came with the car. If you period correct guys are interested hit me up... I would let them go. I am going with Panasports.

The 944 was ill-fated because the CEO of Porsche at the time thought it was the wave of the future and would replace the 911, front engine, watercooled etc... Along came a new CEO and when he looked at sales he went to the design office and extended the time-line for the 911 all the way around the room on the planning board. That was 1983. We then got the Carrera in 1984. I have always heard the 912, 914, 924, 944 refered to as the poor mans Porsche. I have owned a 944S2 and have a 914 and a 911 presently...

You want to visit HybridZ if you are thinking of going V8 with the car. I wouldn't. The value will be higher if you do the work and restore the car. It looks like it might be a good restification candidate.

The drivers armrest appears to be held on with a nylon zip tie. There are a number of dings. With the taillight region being the toughest one to repair. $3000 might be reaching. But still, it isn't a parts car either. It is early as evidenced by the 240Z b pillar emblems. It is otherwise clean. It appears to have suffured the old defered maintainance solution. In the right hands the car could be a gem. In the wrong hands it will be a daily driver that becomes a parts car as soon as the first break down comes along. Too bad you cannot keep the car. Your responses seem reasonable and you have this site as a resourse. No chance?

Bulldog, I have seen more than you would imagine but then I live in California where they run for ever and people keep driving them...

Carl, How many wives do you have? I thought you were in Florida not Utah??? :cheeky: My daily driver is an '84 911 Carrera Sunroof Coupe with 65K miles. I bought it from the original owner in absolute stock condition at 50K miles about 5 years ago. He gave me a box and in it was every part that he had taken off and replaced in the Porsche parts department box the new part came in. I have every burned out bulb from new... Thank God he didn't save oil filters and oil! Rob

My dash will not be going in and out like that unless I send a core to be refurbished. It looks like rivers running into a canyon with all of those cracks. I am a former ZONC board member. Back in the Carolyn Dudley days. Mr. K even took a ride in my old Z before it got totalled.

I have a number of projects going on my '73 and wonder if there are Z guys who know restoration in the area... If you are around sound off! Lets get together and work on our cars. There used to be a guy named Chris Moore but he got married and had a couple of kids so his priorities have changed a bit... I am currently trying to sort out the interior a bit. I have the carpet and vinyl kits along with the plastic panels. I will be getting the seat kits soon. I will do an exchange with Classic Datsun Motorsports for the door panels. Biggest project will be pulling the dash and sending it out to have it restored.

Arne, you are absolutely correct in that Porsche has abandoned everyman. But I think their marketing strategy is to buy VW and drop a little "Porsche" into the VW line and thereby pump the sales to everyman. I had a student tell me the other day that his Jetta has Porsche brakes from the factory. This is an interesting discussion. I originally was talking about the dynamics that killed the 914 and we only touched on a couple. Lets not forget the OPEC thing and people feeling economically "shakey" just as we are now here in the US. I think Mitsubishi and Subaru are marketing to everyman as far as sporty handling and such. The WRX sti even appeals to me! But like you, I am not much of a new car buyer these days. I don't think of cars as status any more. I laugh at the people who think because I own two Porsches I must be rich. The newest vehicle that I have is my 4Runner and I have 145K miles and it is 9 years old! I intended to drive it into the ground but it is my wife's DD and she is concerned with status so I am going to have to buy something newer.

I have to agree with Steve on this one... Porsche had the project and went to Nordhoff with it. They agreed with a handshake and a plan on a paper napkin that Porsche that Karmann would build the bodies and Porsche would trim the six cylinders while VW-Porsche a new joint venture would build the four cylinders. Porsche was the original designer of the VW flat four motor as well as many other projects. Currently Porsche owns a controlling interest in VW... Sadly, I think you are partly right though in one regard. But I think Porsche has a misguided idea that the Boxster and Cayman are affordable... The Cayman is an INCREDIBLE handling car. But not for everyman.

Carl mentioned something in a PM to me. Carl and I have known each other in the cyber sense for the better part of 10-15 years. Perhaps 5 years ago, I went as Carl puts it "to the dark side" and got into Porsches. I now own a 914 and a 911. I am quite active in the 914 forums. The 914 was a car that didn't really make it. Just over 100K were made in 6 cylinder (3200) and 4 cylinder models. It was a great car without a doubt and all you have to do is drive one to know that. When asked by 914 people why I think the car died out I tell them the Z beat it. Not just because it is a great car, they are both great cars. The Z beat it because of price and just plain sexy looks. In the end, the economics just wouldn't work for Porsche any more and they pulled the plug. Now of course, with the Boxster, Cayman and, Carrera GT they have gone back to the great middle motor platform.

Yes... Scott Brunning. I wonder if he is still into Z cars. He did a video to make a convertable too...

samzhot240, You have to have the last set of flat top Hitachi's on earth. I am suprized they run at all... I know a guy here in California who swears by them. But I never knew anyone who could keep them running... I mean this sincerely, good luck.

That $500 is a good deal too. Even if you find a mangled one you send it to a bumper refinisher who straightens and rechromes it for about $500... It's a wash. Your choice.

Bruce, What was the guy's name who you guys bought the company from? I have a video around here somewhere that he did on tuning I think. He was USAF as was I at the time... I think he was leaving Mountain Home in Idaho and going to England or Greenland??? I have a set of SU's that have been suffering shelf abuse for a few years. On my car now are a set of triple Webers. I want to de-tune the car a bit and bring her back toward a nice street cruiser and less of the hillclimb screamer the PO built it for. My car is a "73 but the SU's I have are four screw round tops. I will be sending them off to you guys one of these days when I get done with interior restoration...

I got the same stuff from Les. Less the headliner. I am also going to purchase the seat cover kits and door panels. I got the vinyl kit too. ummm new interior! Love it!

Hi Carl, Not sure if you will remember me. I was a member of the IZCC with a member number of like 3250 or so... I had a website called PlanetZ with a couple how-to things and a few pictures of my car. I have been sort of absent for a few years while I finished my PhD. I have a 1973 240Z now. I am the second owner. The first was an enthusiast and the car has in his words "just about everything that Nissan Motorsports makes". I have painted it in its original white and will be spending the summer replacing the interior panels with the reproduction stuff. It is mechanically very strong but I will be "de-tuning" it. It has the 2.4 block with an E31 head and triple Webers, Nissan Motorsports headers, original 4 speed, into an R200 with Nissan Motorsports LSD. The suspension is way too stiff for my 'softening with age' tastes so that will be returned to rubber if I can find it. Nice to see you are still around the Datsun Z. I always appreciated your expertise. Rob Sime