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I've seen this pop up from time to time in Yahoo JP auctions only. Are they (were they?) available to buy or is this a one off or what?

I'm not in a postion to check my references at the moment, but some of the guys here maybe able to check this; In 1965~ Prince Motor Company produced a 2.5 litre OHC 6 called the G11. (Very similar to the 2litre G7)This went into the S44 Gloria (B250 under Nissan). This used a 4BBL Hitachi as original equipment. Could this manifold be from one of these motors? I realise it would be an odd thing to make it's way to America, but these odd things do happen. Here's another off topic question for ya; Why is " four Barrel " universally represented as "4BBL"? Only 1 B in Barrel! My guess is the four holes in BB resemble a four barrel footprint...maybe?

Yair, I hope he knows about it :paranoid: What's your source Mr BigHat? (I know it's not tomatoe or BBQ! ) I can't read that link .(Swedish?) Is is relevant to the sale, or just the pics? Jim.

Hello Art, That particular ad came from an Australian issue "Readers Digest". I've just done a quick check of my other 240K ads, the sales brochure, Modern Motor , Wheels, Motor Manual, Classic Cars( a British publication). All from 1973-1975, all make mention of the 240Z engine connection. DATSUN 240Z....DATSUN 240K...I think they were making some attempt, but fell in the mud with the 120Y , 180B , 240 C. As an aside I've got pics here of what was planned for Australia as the 240B or 260B (Nov.'73) In Japan it was the Bluebird U2000GT or GT-X. Any connection made in Australia to the Skyline for the 240K, was always in an Australian magazine road test or article. I can find no mention from Nissan-Datsun in their Australian ads that I've got my hands on. I guess they felt it would mean nothing to their target market who would be unlikely to know of it's motorsport heritage, and the '64-'67 GT connection was too obscure.... Too much Prince (basically unknown) and not enough Datsun. Different story in England. The one ad I've seen introduces it as a new executive saloon called the Skyline, and says the engine is a close relative of Datsuns famous rally winning 240Z. Will you please stop teasing the sh*t outa me with stuff like this?:disappoin (Don't you dare, I'm only joking:p )To hear that this kind of documentation existed, only fires me up to try and get some acknowledgment out of NISSAN somehow?!?!....and to hear this morning that NISSAN themselves have lost documentation passed on to them for translation/verification of one of the KGC10's brought in through New Guinea as a private import:mad: Can you expand on who the dealer is(was?) and any other relevant info Art? Are you interested in recovering as much about this fascinating piece of history as possible? Things like dates are really helpful. These can be used to then cross reference local and other publications of the time. I have a few sources to run by the info you've provided so far, but verification in some tangeable form will really make them sit up and take notice:classic: You appear to have been well connected at the time and in an enviable position to sooth enquiring minds! I'm still curious about the jackets. In what capacity did you wear them that Datsun(?) could ask you what, and what not to wear? I'm betting you have a lot of pics and interesting info of this era!? Cheers guys, and keep the good questions and info flowing:classic: Jim.

No truer words ever spoken Alan. Jim.

Not true Art, here's one example from a n Australian publication. Take a close look at this ad Sorry Art but if you mean to include the KPGC10 in the above in my experience you are in the 1%ers, or simply talking about a different car. You've gotta be joking!Please take a look in my galleryand re assure yourself (and me!)that the silver /grey car with the black wheels is an example of what you saw with the 24 ounce and company.To the untrained eye my car is a KPGC10. Where ever it has been displayed it has been described as " A 1600 2door on steroids" to "horniest/sickest car NISSAN ever made!" ...it goes on. One memorable comment which was made by an admiring older women more to the car itself as she traced a hand along its edge as if it were a thoroughbred horse was " What a timeless stunner you are..":knockedou NOT my words but an example of peoples initial reaction to seeing one in the flesh for the first time. My personal opinion is the KPGC10 profile it is one of the best/most pleasing proportioned hard top coupes ever to make it from the drawing board to the showroom. Make of this what you will, but I must add I find the S54BEIII profile equally enchanting:) I also believe these things cast a spell over hapless owners who come to perceive them as more than the sum of their respective nuts and bolts:love: I agree with you here 100%. This describes exactly as it appeared to the likes of me and I believe goes a long way to explain the inconsistancies we uncover as we look back years later. Art you mentioned a NISSAN jacket in a previous post. D'ya reckon you could post a pic of it? Not doubting, but curious what a NISSAN jacket from 1972 looks like, my car being a 1972 Nissan also:classic: I've gathered some period correct patches for just such a jacket and any pics you could offer would be greatly appreciated Please don't let this end here. I suspect there is a lot more about this tale to uncover. Cheers guys, Jim.

This information on C10's being available in South Australia is GOLD aarc240! As Alan said, it's news to me too. As an owner of one of 5 KGC10's (that I know of!) in Australia, I would love to see anything relating to the C10 generation of Skyline in Australia:classic: You do mean cars actually landed for sale from a dealer showroom and not just "available" through the right contacts I hope. :paranoid: Many years ago I did hear of a connection between a South OZ Prince Skyline GT racer, a dealer and the Prince Factory, but it could not be substanciated....too much time gone by, that sort of thing:( I always believed the first boat load of S54B's arrived in Feb. of 1965? Maybe this only relates to NSW? The S50 series 4 cylinder Skyline was around in 1964. You sound like you've been around these Skyline beasties for a decent amount of time Art! it would be great to hear more about you and your experiences (the performance Japanese car and motorsport kind!). Sounds like South Australia had a lot to offer the keen performance Skyline fan:) Cheers, Jim.

:cheeky: Hiya Alan, Yair,... I know what it really was (is!) ..but I had to get the GT-R tie in somehowLOL ...No one else but you could have possibly tripped me on this:p Thanks for the barn find photos. That Japanese climate is positively cruel to the classics:( Do you think it may live again?

Hi Steve, Do you have a spare 240K 4door passenger side rear quarter window? the last window on the left. Where are you? If I can't find one locally I may have to look interstate. What is a K rim centre cap ? Can you post a pic? Thanks, Jim.

I gotta agree, but... (just for fun:devious: )... there was a GT-R type S20 engine sold from Australia in the mid 1980's:devious: :devious: Aaww come on Pete, don't be like that! You've fired up an interesting thread, and having fun (I hope:nervous: ) at the same time:) Cheers, Jim.

Click here to see lots of nice 4 doors Cheers, Jim.

Ahh don't worry about it Pete! There's not many around that saw them in the dealers, and most owners of the GTB's were keen to distance the car from the "Datsun" association. Remember "Prince and Nissan" were as different as "Ford and GMH" before 1966. with all the S54 Skylines still being built by the same Prince team after the merger, they were NISSAN in name only. When compared to a Nissan or Datsun on the road in Australia at the time, they had Japanese build similarities, but no makers brand similarities. They were still as different as a different make! You are right about them being uncommon. Consensus is ~300 in total were delivered to Australia. I've always been a car nut and the first one I recall wasn't 'till 1971...but I do remember looking at a deep blue Prince Gloria on the showroom floor around 1965....I was 8 years old (all that chrome! ) The attached pic is from Glasses 1975 dealers used car guide. It shows the single carby A model, S54AE3 and the triple webered B model S54BE3 moved to the DATSUN listing. Sorry TONYASAP for continuing to hijack your thread. Maybe in a roundabout way knowing some of the heritage of the trusty 240K, you may be encouraged to restore it to its former glory? I hope so!

Nissan Badge on an S54BE3, and an example of the stylised badge I think all the S54 series was fitted with. Jim.

Hi Pete, Because you've touched on my favourite subject and at the risk of being labelled a smartarse, I'd like to add what I believe to be true in Australia....selected Nissan-Datsun dealers did indeed sell the Nissan Prince A200GT. The PMC Prince Skyline GT S54BE2; (S54 for long wheelbase, B for the G7 "B" or triple webered engine, E for Export, and the two is a bit tricky but I think it was to differentiate from the very first S54 with the single carbied engine) was first marketed in Australia as a product of The Prince Motor Company. I've included a scan of the rear of an English text 1965 brochure from Prince Motors for the Australian release. The next model (of interest to this discussion) to come to Australia, was the NISSAN Prince A200 GT.(S54BE3). I believe these appeared early in 1967. Once again a scan of the equivalent brochure, but this time from our friends at NISSAN! Both models were assembled in the same factory, by the same team. Once Prince Motor Company was merged into NISSAN, Nissan took over the marketing and ensured the VIN plate read NISSAN where previously it would have read PRINCE. MOST carried a small Nissan badge front and rear (see black and white pic). I suspect a lot of these were removed by owners to add a little mystique. The various badging fitted to these cars by the makers in their build lifetime (1965-1968) will forever cause confusion. This led motoring magazines to get it wrong also. I think they ALL received the stylised Prince "P" badge though. I'll include a pic of that! A200's, Prince 2000's, Nissan Skylines, Prince Skylines,....and that was just the badges, when you toss in what the brochures said , dealers called them and what was written in various road tests,S54A, S54B, S54AE3, S54BE3) the confusion is understandable. Prince started it with the GT, giving it real performance cred with the "B" package with the webers. Nissan advanced it next generation in Feb 1969 with the S20 powered C10 4door, the first Skyline given the mark of GT-R. The last N/A GT-R was the C110 shape we in Australia associate with the 240K. As Tom (the C110) says "why didn't they just badge them as Skylines in OZ?" ...And this is only a glimpse of the whole picture that I'm still trying to understand:)

Thanks Eric,I only realised once I saw the cover that this is one of the two issues I have, thanks to Alfadog and HS30-H:knockedou I will try for the Skyline memorial book, I love that shot from the pits circa 1971!

Can I order a current(115) issue please Miles? I can't resist the Prince & Skyline history. I did take a look at subscribing direct, but could find no facility for international subscription, only domestic with free post. Thanks mate, Jim.

How rare is this? One day to go. It's a lot of money, but not expensive considering what it is. IS it the real thing Alan? Jim.

If it's any help Kent, the car Ben was driving at Bathurst, the KGC10, had a KAAZ R200 in it.The owner, Nathan Sawczak should be able to advise.

I think it says it's freshly rebuilt......only 3000,000 yen or ~Aust.$35,000.00 or~ US$ 26,500.00 ............................wow! click here and..8500..click into second... 8500..into third..:classic: ..."Err yes,... that's engine only sir!"

We could certainly do that, quite a few of us in Sydney.

..And now I'm in need of a passenger side rear door quarter glass, probably easier in the rubber? I'll get back to you with more info. Jim.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Black characters on white background vx 914 From small carpark opposite Richmond RAAF Airbase (NSW) railway line side near Hawkesbury showgrounds Time; between 6:45pm and 7:15pm Sat. 29th April Removed from our white VX Commodore sedan Suspect vehicle is a small sedan, dark colour 4cylinder 4door Any sightings or help please call crimestoppers 1800 333 000 and/or post here or PM me! Had a great afternoon at the show with the kids, back to the car....unlit very dark carpark, took a few minutes to finish a phonecall and load up the car. As I'm on the phone I took a few aimless, wandering mobile phonecall type steps toward the car parked beside us (only other car in the place) It started up ..no lights, backed away. Whoever was in the car had been sitting there, no lights inside or out, very quietly from the time we had approached the carpark and only fired up it's lights as it turned onto Richmond Rd. All things considered , that appeared suspicious to me Why steal two less than common number plates? Not really a trophy you can show off for too long! They did have covers that would keep an honest person out. For those wondering, the VX is the model...the 914 is the broadcast or build pack for a Police car, which is what our car once was. So what have we got ? A hard case trophy hunter? or just a case of it's easier to steal plates than steal a car to be used for ..who knows what?! I want them back one way or another so it's off to the RTA on Monday to enquire about my options....Hmmm, I could check what the go is online I guess. AAARRgghh ...And to add insult to injury, came out this morning ~5:00am to me trusty '75 Datsun 240K and some Tnuc has smashed the rear quarter window and ransacked the interior.... kuffin' knuckedraggin' backward "T" nucs is what they are:mad: Looks like a trip to that Riverstone wreckers for a 4Door rear door quarter glass....IF I can ever catch the b*stard open!!

G'day all, Yair I know....I shoulda said researchers of Skyline trivia.....Hang on ! you're hav'n a lend of me aren'tcha Mr Thomas:finger: You know exactly wot I meant!! Yair! That's why there is an "or" in the sentence, you know, one or t'other? .....Well, I could not have hoped for more comprehensive and conclusive answers. Thanks Miles and Alan both:) Your last paragraph Alan summarises the whole thing perfectly. Now about the limited edition deisel Fairlady Z...:cheeky:

Thanks for the tip Miles! I had asked Kinokuniya in Sydney to bring it over for me, unfortunately they don't stock it normally:( I'm still waiting on paperwork they want me to fill out first. They want ~$45 Aust. an issue, and then they tell me it will take three months for the first issue to arrive!...All too hard and too much I thought, but now I think I'll try direct from the Japanese publisher. .....And thanks Eric, now I'll have to find that issue #107 !

G'day Tony, The HGC110 (4door) and the KHGC110 (2door) or Datsun 240K, were last offered in Australia as a 1977 model I believe. I think the C210 range, badged "Skyline" first sold here in 1978. I'll check later. My 240K still has it's black vinyl roof, and the original factory aircon. is still kickin' along just fine! You'll have to show us some pics of your old girl....the 240K I mean!!:nervous: Cheers, Jim.