Sean Dezart

1 hour ago, Jason240z said:

I accept it on on the data they produce.

calling it a 'line' makes no sense.  

If one seperates the headers from the 'X' what do you call the 'X' to differentiate ir from the entire system of headers and 'X' ? A 'set', a 'system', 'pipework' ?

For Alan, this is what is listed on RHDJapans (Jason quoted their price listing as a reference) : https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-exh-performance-unit-epu-legalis-total-exhaust-system-fairlady-z-s30-gs30-hs30-2-seater.html

Compatibility is from maker for JDM cars only. We don't guarantee fitment. Always do your own research before purchase.

Nissan Fairlady Z GS30 L20 (10/1971-08/1975)
Nissan Fairlady Z HS30 L24 (10/1971-01/1974)
Nissan Fairlady Z S30 L20 (10/1971-08/1975)

I see no mention of the later S31 models !

I don't see the inverted first flange either but that's probably RHDJpn being lazy and using a previous, library photo

12 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

Again, you're way off track. Fujitsubo have made their new EPU system for Japanese customers who have later production (S31 'Kouki') cars which may or may not have been retrofitted with R200 diffs. It's all in the write-ups.

You *presume* (wrongly, as usual...) that they are somehow addressing Export 280Z models. They are not. This is Straw Man stuff from you again. You put up a false narrative and then knock it down.

Time after time after time, you put words in their mouth. I know why.

Again, no-one has translated the write-ups so unless the questions are asked, only you would know and this is the first time you've mentioned the S31s despite plenty of conjectures over R180 vs R200 fitting.

I'm not putting words into anyones' mouths - people here are independant indivuduals with their own, autonomous thoughts....to even suggest otherwise is an insult to 'them', like they're some kind of lost flock and I'm the Pied Piper - it's comic.

17 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

So you're (seriously?) suggesting that the only reason Fujitusubo have inverted the flange for their new EPU system is to make people stump up for the whole system? Did you even read the write-up on why they did it?

For me, you have zero credibility here. Zero. You're just doing the same stuff you always do. 

And looking at your spelling, are you drunk, ill, or both?

I'm not looking for any credibility here - just asking a couple of questions, which nobody, least of all you, have answered - so why did they invert their flange - I see no ground-clearance advantage from the photos and I don't read Japanese !

Oh gosh, in my haste to reply, did I mispell whilst using an Azerty keyboard, I prostrate myself for my sin. A little 'petite' and not at all classy on your part Alan....'scraping the barrel' rather.

22 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

I've no idea what a line is?  Fujitsubo provide a Dyno developed system.

A line is......: an exhaust line.....that which follows from the exhaust manifolds/headers, collector/extractor.

Dyno-developed on what size engine and state of tune ? The stock L20 for which their system is quoted (joke)...c'mon, dyno-developed is sooo vague, you don't blindly accept that on good faith do you ?

MHO :

1) there is no difference in ground clearance by inversing the initail flange fitting (between header and line). However, it does subtely oblige people to buy their exhaust line with the headers.

2) the twin exhaust lines leading from the reasonators look too low to be benefitting from the front diff support bar/crossmember inverted 'U' cut-outs.

3) And very tongue in cheek - when wishing to sell to Zs with R200s (eg 280Zs ?à, would it be a good idea to lengthen the outlet pipes (or at least offer sais as an export option with lowered exit pipes for the muffler to sit higher) to pass beyond the Federal safety rear bumper ?

ps why don't Fujitsubo offer their headers in at least two primary-pipe diameter sizes ?

On 4/29/2022 at 3:24 PM, texasz said:

That is interesting Alan, I truly thought that he made them based upon all discussions and information I had.  Thank you for the info.

Hi - I've never said that I make them physically ! I produce them, I've conceived them and I sell them but the quantities demanded are way above those that I can make and the raw materials' prices here in France are too crazy !

I apologise if what I said gave you the wrong impression however, all are hand-made.

26 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-exh-performance-unit-epu-legalis-total-exhaust-system-fairlady-z-s30-gs30-hs30-2-seater.html

$1500 off your $3000.

I'm pleased for Matthew buying a Spirit Garage system. Its a great setup, one I'd like.

 

 

Can you read ? Matthew quoted $3k, not me.

Apparently the Spirit Garage system isn't as good a quality as the Fujitsubo....NOT a fact, merely one mans' opinion.

15 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

I just don't follow.  I'm not sure what your aim is.

I've sent 3 messages to the UK importer, who I do not have a buying history with. Between the delays in my messages due to work and time Zones, theirs to the factory, its taken 10 working days to get all the info asked for and a solution.  I'd say that's pretty bloody good?

I don't constantly attack you.  its in your head. I have no ability to censure your wheel threads,None at all.  On any forum.  again its in your head.  I've not seen mention of your copy cat wheels till now.  

you're correct about quality and price. for the same budget, this is a compelling option.

I was agreeing that it was good and thanking/praising you for it. You and Alan consistently appear to look for attacks where there are none !

It's not in my head, plentu of people have PM-ed me on the subject - it's real and only now you don't have the bottle and stand up and behind your acid comments - fair enough however I always assume what I say and write.

Same as what budget ? Matthew is quoting $3000 ! It's so compelling that Matthew is going to buy a Spirit Garage system - go figure. :-)

14 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

No, the supplier has provided a major update and a whole new 'fit' of system. So they've got a new fit system.  

the 'classy' thing would be to not comment on an exhaust thread, full stop. concentrate on your own exhausts, their development, your own versions of products. There's more I could add, however this is my 'classy' reply.

 

Supplier or manufacturer ? I maintain that the 'update' has still left buyers wondering, Matthews' posts are testament to that and it was only your perserverence over more than a fortnight with a local supplier insistting with the manufacturer that you've selfishly supplied the clear information needed.

I don't understand why, on two seperate forums you want me to keep mum on any exhaust thread, which is my speciality (whatever happened to freedom of speech ?) and you consistently attack me everywhere on the net. Upon the subject of wheels also, there are three of you who've been keen to censure my threads leading to two forums banning any mention of them despite their members' buying them.

It's either personal against me and/or my products Jason and I still don't get the exalted level of animosity you have towards someone you've never met and down you no harm.

For Alans' sake, I'll repeat again - I have nothing against Japanese parts for our cars - I do, howver question that ONLY Japanese parts are best for our cars which obviously sidelines and could even be taken as snidy (sic) comments upon all those parts procuded and marketed outside of Japan - most examples of which are Made in the USA ! Should we believe you that they are sub-standard to JDM parts and that engine and body-shops here are also ?

Owners buy parts using many criteria and I don't believe that national sites of production count - quality and price do......and we all have different budgets.

6 hours ago, HS30-H said:

A cursory look back through this thread shows you throwing shade at both Fujitsubo and Spirit Garage. Your (ridiculous) assertions that Fujitsubo should personally curate every single sale - even when their products are passing through a chain of both authorised and unauthorised re-sellers - is for the birds, as is your suggestion that they need to do it in the English language. Pie-in-the-sky stuff. You have been sniping at Fujitsubo on other forums and on Facebook for years now. 

 

Many of the questions being asked arise from typical social media whispering grass scenarios, and from misconceptions which you yourself contribute to. My advice to everybody - as always - is to go back to source. In the case of aftermarket exhausts that means the manufacturers themselves. 
Look for example at the situation regarding R200 compatibility. The guy whining that his exhaust didn't fit his 280Z simply didn't understand what FGK's published data told him.

You're kidding, right?

This thread is titled "New Fujitsubo Exhaust System" and it started in January 2017. By post #4 you are active in the topic and throwing shade, by post #12 you are showing a photo of your own product and by post #13 you are advocating your Z Story exhausts with sales patter ("....still a big advantage buying from me is that.....I'm here - you can talk, ask questions, get measurements (get replacement parts if needed) - gotta be better than buying blind from a 'buy it now' site !"). By post #17 you are even quoting prices.

So you elevate yourself as a rival supplier, and you've had posts (and threads) elsewhere deleted and edited because of it. You've even been sent on extended Gardening Leave by one forum because of your incessant sales pitches.

As I've pointed out to you elsewhere, you would be well advised to simply let your products speak for themselves and stop with the blatant and between-the-lines criticism you throw at the products of other manufacturers who are not here to defend themselves. 

Fair enough, I wasn't clear in that I meant since Matthews' 'rebirthing' of the subject in his post no. 426.

It has however taken 19 pages, 5yrs and questions posed via a supplier in a different country, on another continent to clear up the specs sufficient for a potential buyer to make a rational choice.

Alan, you say yourself that suppliers aren't asking the right questions of Fujitsubo and we've seen poor and even misleading information presented by these retailers outside of Japan. I've only ever said that if they were my exhausts being resold, I would insist the retailers get it right.

Your 'scratched-record' reply has always been that Fujitsubo don't care about export sales, are not reponsable for sales blurb in English and that buyers should contact the manufacturing company in their local language - ie Japanese. And you call me ridiculous....

Total unfounded garbage to suggest that I have contributed to misconceptions and that I've sniped at Fujitsubos' products. I have consistently stated that is not the case, they are high-quality parts.....you, however, decipher (because it suits your soapbox) my questions/observations as sniping !

Questions such as they're listed for L20s only, that, originally, they weren't made to fit around R200 diffs, there were ground-clearance issues, at some point the lines were not stainless-steel, were they compatible with LHD cars, are they road legal with their elevated db levels, do they only come with one diameter size primary pipes and so on.....

Most of the above points have been addressed by Fujitsubo and I believe that is to reassure the export market buyers.....which reverses your opinion that they only care for their JDM.

Instead of answering those points and rather perpetually accusing me of 'sniping', you (the royal you) have left buyers wondering......and that lack of concise information isn't your fault or even the manufacturer - it's mine and the retailers asking the wrong questions - IF they bother to ask at all.

Get a grip on reality, stop pointing the finger and keep to the facts - not YOUR personal opinions, please. :-)

58 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

 

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Ah, but Alan restarted that with his petty inferences AND this isn't his nor your thread - right ?

On 10/7/2022 at 12:25 PM, HS30-H said:

It seems to me that after 19 pages "The Information" is peppered with misunderstandings, miscomprehensions and personal opinions with - I'd say - a little light salting of wilful disinformation and unfair criticism from a rival supplier with a dog in the fight. 

Untrue Alan ! There was no disinformation, wilful or otherwise and certainly no criticism at all from me. I quoted the sales information factually. No 'dog in the fight' either ; I didn't even speak of my systems as Matthew wants a dual-line system and I don't produce one (yet).

Please stop your personal (at me) sniping and disinformation on what you believe are my thoughts despite my assurances to the contrary !

On 10/7/2022 at 12:25 PM, HS30-H said:

It seems to me that after 19 pages "The Information" is peppered with misunderstandings, miscomprehensions and personal opinions

You now say you're going with a Spirit Garage system but (even as a happy Spirit Garage system user) I can assure you that the Fujitsubo systems are better quality both in materials used and in construction. 

"the information" published here in this thread with miunderstandings and misconceptions is that gained from retailers. It's a shame that such high-quality goods are not backed up by informed sellers.

ps I hadn't realised that I'd been elevated to the status of 'rival supplier' - thanks for that. :-)

On 9/18/2022 at 2:31 PM, Jason240z said:

its all in your head.  you post on my threads.  

Why don't we start threads on your exhausts speaking about the following issues with Zstory:

So let's agree NOT to post on each others' threads (and that includes Alan too) - OK ? Pax Britannica. 😊

I didn't understand until now the level of animosity you have towards me - someone you've never met and don't know.

39 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

I will.

Please stick to your own threads without destroying the whole internet.

Drink your own medicine ; you and the Count follow me around everywhere !

However, in a free world, anyone can post when and where he (or she) likes - no ?

51 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

I couldn't possibly imagine why you'd be asking so many questions about Fujitsubo's Legalis systems, or be so exercised about finding out as much as possible about them.

Have you ever considered making and selling your own exhaust systems? 

Then sir, you lack any imagination. :-)

41 minutes ago, Jason240z said:

Hi, I really can't see them being different apart from the diff section.  `performance is quoted as exactly the same, it'd make no sense as its only that section that needs changing or that has changed...

So please be the guinea-pig and buy it :-)

And this : 

and this (guy forgot he'd already PM-ed me):

and this last - all received the same day :

Can an admin/mod alter the titel please to read 'scammers' ? Thanks.

When you post a parts-wanted ad OR reply to and ad/thread requesting a part, beware of the responses : can be a simple reply, usually a private/direct message.

The guy might even refer you to another saying ''I've seen this guy advertsing a few''

It'll all sound totally convincing and along with the request for paypal via 'friends/family', which, to a member on this forum seems reasonable too.

Check out their member status : for how long they've been a member here and have they posted anywhere else and what was it - in most cases only a VERY brief time, sometimes the same day and with no other public activity (hence the PMs).

Admin/moderators - impossible to screen every request for membership however may it be possible that every new member must post a message in the presentation section to unblock their activity elsewhere ?

Guys - a well maintained engine shouldn't be doing this...in any weather ! Nissan did not make it so.

Fit some efficient heat-shield material and run it from engine head to chassis rail.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nimbus+heat+shield&rlz=1C1VSNC_enFR576FR576&oq=nimbus+heat+shield&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59j0i22i30l2.4227j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There's a lot of turbulence behind the radiator - does anyone seriously believe the the hot air rises only vertically ?

Keep in touch - my next batch due in just before Easter in April.