Everything posted by motorman7
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To buy or not to buy...that is the question
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of my wife's complaining that we don't have room for another Z (or another project), or take arms against that sea of troubles and let this car pass to someone else. Yes, I am faced with the conundrum of deciding on whether to pick up another Z. Tough call on this one. The car is in many pieces right now, but would not take much to get running. Of course I would tear it all apart anyway and re-build from the ground up. The good: The car is very original with minimum rust (just the right rear dogleg is rusted through). The frame rails and underside are dented but in decent condition. I love the color combo. interior vinyl and seats are in very good condition, original radio, original motor The bad: paint is crazed and in bad condition, dogleg rust, cracked dash, minor dings. Wife is out of town now, but will be back in a couple days. I will see what she says when she comes back. The price is right. Maybe I sell one of my other Z's and pick this one up (I hate to do that) I need a Ouija board or something to figure this out. tough call. Pics below
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So I have the original 69,561 mile L24 out of my 71 240Z
You could clean it up so it would be ready to drop in at a moments notice. Plus, they are beautiful works of art and would nicely compliment any garage.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
The dog days of restoration. Hours at the wheel prepping parts for plating. It will be all worth while when we start putting this all back together. Separating yellow zinc from clear zinc. A few motor additions. Attention to the small details are what makes it all come together nicely.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Just a few small updates from the paint shop. Got the Exhaust manifold off to be ceramic coated, Air cleaner is being powder coated at the same place. Been adding a few pars to the motor. Will try and get the rest of the plated items wire wheeled this weekend.
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240Z restoration
I love that quote! One of my favorites. Just a quick note on 'Just Dashes': Current cost is $1750 plus tax and shipping. Shipping is way expensive, so since you are fairly local, just better to drop it off there. Also, the lead time is 3 months, so you will not get your dash back right away. Good luck!
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240Z restoration
Fixing the existing cracks in a dash is pretty much just a temporary fix. Age and condition of the plastic on the dash can not be reversed, and eventually new cracks will form. In some cases your new fix will exacerbate the problem as the patch may shrink, producing more cracks. I followed one of the dash repair threads on this forum using the 'bumper rubber' material as the patch material on my 1970 roadster. The dash looked awesome for about 6 months, then the cracks started to appear. The cracks were in the old plastic that was not replaced and eventually they became overwhelming. I ended up just putting a dash cap over it.
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240Z restoration
I would say it is a bit more than 30 minutes, closer to an hour or two based on your skill level. For me, the most difficult part of the dash removal is removing the heater panel and it's associated cables, the radio, and the wires that go to the fuse box. It is probably easiest to remove the fuse box along with the dash harness instead of unscrewing the two wires that attach to the bottom of the box. The rest of the removal is easy by comparison in my opinion. Also, you will want to take a lot of pics of the smaller individual wire connections. There are several that change color and this can be a bit tricky when re-installing. The larger connections are basic. Also, I would recommend 'Just Dashes' over purchasing an uncracked or NOS dash. There is no telling the condition of an old dash and how old the plastic is and what it has been exposed to. Just my thoughts.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
I will have to get me a pair or two as well. I just have the type with the alligator teeth and they pretty much tear up everything.
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1973 240Z Value
It looks pretty nice from the one picture. If it still has the flat top carbs I would be interested if I can find a place to park it. I think the 1973's are underrated. The thing I like about them is that they are the only 240Z with the flat tops and unique hardware. Most people have have tossed the flat tops in favor of the SU's, so finding an original will soon be pretty rare, thus the value. And don't harass me about the flat tops as I actually had a 1973 240Z (Stupidly sold in a short period of insanity) that had flat tops and it ran flawlessly, even in LA traffic. I may have @Montezuma check this out as he lives in Long Beach....not far from San Pedro.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Yes it is
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
As far as the plating goes it's "Garbage IN, Garbage OUT". They need to be cleaned up but I think it is worth the work.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Got the silver zinc parts back from the plater. The parts came out great. Before and after pics are below.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Some detail pics of the valve cover. I think this came out real nice. Took my orange Z to the Motorcars on Main Street show in Coronado today. Personally, I think it is one of the best car shows in San Diego. The Z cars get a lot of attention.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Got the valve cover back today. Just have it resting on motor for now. Will clear coat tomorrow and then install. Will also trim those silly tabs off of the valve cover gasket. Whatever happened to the old fashioned cork gaskets? These new ones are funky. I would actually be interested in picking up a couple of the cork/brown ones if they were available.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Started back on the motor assembly now that I have the engine bolts plated. Installed the timing chain cover, oil pump, water pump and oil pan. Will send the valve cover out tomorrow for the bead blast. Once that is done, the motor should be looking pretty nice and about ready to install when the time comes.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Hi Dave, The '71 will be fun to work on. Looking forward to it. Got the first batch of Yellow zinc parts back. They look so pretty! Pics are lousy though, flourescent lights are the worst for photos. Also got new flat and lock washers in from Belmetric. It's not worth the time to wire wheel and plate washers since you can get most of these for 6 to 10 cents each. Much cheaper and simpler to go this way for the washers.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Hi Jim, Darn near impossible to get those fittings out in a clean manner. The list of items I utilized over the last week and a half include, PB Blaster, Kroil, Muriatic Acid, and a high temp torch. After all that, and using a 14mm flare wrench, I could not get those things lose. Anyway, I am glad they are out and fortunately I have a nice one to put on. Hopefully I will get that today with fresh plating. It's pretty exciting with all the stuff going on and things are progressing very quickly. Body is coming along well at the paint shop, dash is at "Just Dashes", sent the carbs and intake manifold off to ZTherapy last week (insured UPS shipping was just $28), and parts are being plated just down the street. Will be nice when this all comes together. Thanks for the words of encouragement. Best regards, Rich
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
The inspection lights are multiplying . I cleaned up the original for this car and sent it off to the platers along with the engine bolts and other parts to get the yellow zinc plating. Should get those parts back tomorrow. Can't wait to see them. I will drop off the silver zinc parts when I pick up the yellow parts. Still had a very hard time getting the air galley off even after soaking the air fittings for well over a week. I was not able to salvage the air galley that came with the exhaust manifold, but I was able to get out all of the fittings in tact, mostly. Five I was able to unthread using vise grips and a hammer. One I had to drill and tap, so not to bad. Tapped with the 1/4 BPST tap. I will run the tap through the other five ports just to make sure they are all cleaned up. Then I will send this off to get ceramic coated. Pics are below
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
The two orange ones are kind of worn out, but they came with the Caswell plating kit. Caswell lists them as a 'Nylon abrasive wheel' with no grit specified. Since they were worn, I got the blue one at Home Depot. It is designed for a drill, but I drilled out the center drill shank with a 1/2" bit and sandwiched it between the two orange ones. Seems to work pretty well. I don't know what the grit is but it originally looked like this. https://www.amazon.com/Dico-541-784-4-Nyalox-Wheel-4-Inch/dp/B00004YYD9/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492481361&sr=8-3&keywords=Abrasive+wheel 240 grit is about right.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
The Plating Process: Spent several hours yesterday (before Easter activities) prepping parts for plating. The plating is a very involved process and prep is the most important thing. Since I am doing a large number of parts, I will be sending these out for plating where they can plate these in large barrels. I have my own set-up, but it is better suited for low quantity work. The first step is to clean the oil and gunk off of the original parts. Usually I will do this by putting the parts in my paint thinner/lacquer thinner mix, using a brush to clean off the parts. This will remove most of the oily stuff and loose junk. Then I will dry the parts on a cloth. The parts need to be free of oils or they will contaminate your wire wheel. Once that is contaminated it spreads to all the parts, so this needs to be clean. I also intermittently clean the wire wheel with lacquer thinner just for good measure. After the parts are dry, I remove all the rust, paint and plating using the wire wheel. This can be a bit tricky as most of the parts are somewhat small. Typically I will wear a leather glove on my left hand and thin latex glove on the right. Goggles are a must as the little wires will occasionally fly off in addition to the debris and occasionally the part itself. A small breathing mask is also useful due to the dust. The part needs to be completely cleaned of the old material or the new zinc will not stick or look good. I also use a fiber wheel for cosmetic purposes after the parts have been wire wheeled. The fiber wheel makes surfaces super shiny which will also make the plating super shiny. Usually I will do the bolt heads and other very visible parts on the fiber wheel. At this point the parts need to be plated fairly soon or they will quickly rust. The parts are essentially naked at this point. Some people prefer to sand blast parts before plating. This is convenient for tight spaces but results in a somewhat dull finish. This is a fairly laborious process, but it's the little details that really make the car. Pics are below.
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Deja Vu: 1971 Restoration
Did a little more clean-up on the engine parts. Cleaned and painted the oil pan and front pulley. Cleaned and put a light coat of high temp aluminum paint on the front timing chain cover. Parts are just loosely attached to the block since I don't have the nuts and bolts ready for plating. Hope to have those to the plater this Monday so I can start actual assembly soon. Will also get the valve cover glass bead blasted so that looks nice and pretty. Got a nice E30 Exhaust manifold with air galley off of e-bay (replaces the N36 that was installed on the car in 2013 and not original). Will douse the air galley fittings with Kroil and let them soak a bit before I try to remove. The air galley is in nice shape so I would like to try and preserve that. Pics are below.
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fuel rail finish
Yellow zinc plating