Everything posted by HS30-H
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Thanks Kats. I haven't got that issue (I will have to track it down now), but I have a small collection of DRIVER magazines from that period. The covers are always interesting and fun, and there was always an amazing amount of content in each issue. The journalists must have been working so hard. Nice balance of consumer-motorist (commuter), leisure motorist (trips, family, driving holidays) and sport motoring too. Their back-to-back group tests were very thorough. They always seemed to show 'back stage' and unusual shots in their motorsports coverage, which I love. 'Reportage' style:
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Notice it has no emblem ('Datsun') on that left fender either. Possible damage repair? I do see the join line between the fender and headlamp cowl, but it is very faint. Possibly a lot of paint, and - as above - suggesting a repair? Largely due to that 1/71 Auto Sport article, '8D-420' has long been one of my dream cars. Big influence on the project I'm currently building.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
In the 1/71 Auto Sport feature, '8D-420' does not have the satin/matt black anti-reflective paint on the upper surfaces of the front fenders, bonnet and cowl. I'm guessing your photos show it at a later date? That oil filter looks very red. Special type? At one point the Works team were using orange FRAM oil filters (certainly during the 1971 RAC Rally here in the UK) but this doesn't look like a FRAM. Is the article from a 1971 issue of MOTOR FAN Magazine Kats?
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Yes! Kanri number '8D-420', as shown in the January 1971 issue of Auto Sport Japan. Wonderful car! This time on 'Trade'/Test temporary license plates no less. Issued in Yokohama? Factory test car.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Certainly the bigger battery was standard on Euro & UK models too, so that captive nut was used for the battery frame. I have the same on my '70 Fairlady Z-L, and have fitted the larger size battery, so use the captive nut accordingly for the battery frame. It just looked to me like it could have been a candidate for another cable clamp point when using the smaller (Japan size) battery, which stands away from the firewall. I think you've got it! Noted accordingly.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
I agree that the PZ-specific stand-off bracket was designed to hold both battery cables at that point (in order to route them away from the accel linkage, as you say). I see many stand-off brackets that are bent up and misshapen (probably because owners/mechanics were seeking access to the accel linkage) and the bracket needs to be in its original shape to route the cable properly. I have also seen variation in the cable earthing point (again, probably due to actions of owners/mechanics) so that will also change the routing... About that mystery third clamping point: How about the captive nut on the firewall which is right over the battery? I feel like it is ideally positioned to hold ONE battery cable as it comes off the battery terminal - the one furthest to the outside of the car on the left - but seems rarely used. Possibly because of different batteries being retro-fitted?
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Stock PS30 battery cable routing should be very similar to stock S30 and S30-S battery cable routing for cars made during the same period. The two cable run from the battery, along the firewall at the same level, over the top of the bonnet/hood catch bracket, and then turn down towards the bellhousing and starter motor - with their last holding point on the firewall being the dedicated stand-off clamp which is quite similar to the Mater Vac hose bracket. Small bolt-on clamps hold the cables to the firewall. I think people started routing the cables through the catch bracket because it acted as an extra guide, and perhaps looked a little neater. Strictly speaking, it is not correct.
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Fake Z for Japanese GT500 Race Series
at the "fake" hyperbole. You're a little late to be complaining about Super GT's regulations, as what we see now (a shared 2-litre turbocharged 4-cyl engine and tube frame chassis) has been the norm in the GT500 class since 2014. We've had at least seven years of Nissan 'GTRs' running that spec, which is even more poignant. That's just the way it is these days. Same for all the major manufacturers. Don't I remember you waxing lyrical and whimsically about the Z32-era IMSA GTO 300ZX Twin Turbo race cars? What did those tube-framed, plastic-bodied race cars "tell" you about the road going models? Nothing much, I'd say. "The Original Racing Z" was a Fairlady Z 432-R, a limited production homologation special with lightweight body pressings, plastic windows, 100 litre fuel tank, LSD and a 24 valve twin cam engine. So yes, basically 'stock'...
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Not wishing to steal Kats' thunder here, but I have previously posted scanned pages from the aircon section of the 1969 'Z1' Nissan Service Shuho booklet and perhaps this is a good time to post them again. It seems to me that many early Z enthusiasts do not know that factory aircon was part of the original 270KK/'Maru Z'/S30-series design, even though the tell-tales are there for us to see on every early car - Export or Domestic. I'm surprised more people do not notice them... A true 'Fully Loaded' early Z with all the bells and whistles would have been quite something in late 1969. World Class.
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Curious ? on early 240s
As related to me by Uemura san, the pierced dimples 'cheesegrater' deck area is the top half of an important transverse structural (triangular) box section in the bodyshell. The reason for the pierced dimples is simply to aid strength, and to help avoid 'oil canning' should any load be put on the top surface of the deck. Nothing to do with weight saving. The vertical front face has square-pierced pressings for the same reason (strength), with the earliest examples lacking a partial doubler plate over the transmission tunnel which was soon added to beef up that area. The subsequent integral tool box design pretty much did the same job, killing two birds with one stone.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Blue-on-blue early PLS30U phantom? That sounds like a fun project!
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Great photos! As far as I am aware, 8D-420 was never given a road registration and was purely used as a Works rally team test car in Japan, and mostly on Nissan's off-road/rally test ground near Mount Asama. One of its interesting features was a full six point roll bar. Apparently the front bars dropping down from over the doors and following the A pillars were felt to be too intrusive (certainly for occupant legroom and comfort, but possibly impairing vision too) and were dropped for the following cars, so they only used the main hoop and two vertical drops. None of the early lightweight rally 'test' cars survived, to my knowledge. Some parts were recycled back into the system at Oppama, with 'shells 'written off' the ledgers and broken up to keep the accountants happy. Nothing would make me happier than the discovery of another long-thought-lost example, but the possibility seems very remote. One from the collection: Testing on the Mount Asama course.
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Valve cover series 1
Lawks, what a mess. The valve covers on these engines were not manufactured by 'Aitoku Co. Ltd', and they never supplied replacement covers either. They were simply a reconditioned engine supplier, hence the sticker advising that there's no oil inside (the engines could not be shipped with oil pre-filled) and to check drain plug and 'filter cap' (sic) tightening before starting. That's simply a valve cover taken off a recon engine. The valve (cam) covers were manufactured by Nissan using the High Pressure Die Casting method. The casting dies were polished, and the outer surface of the covers came out of the process with a fine-grained, dense outer surface finish that did not require painting.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Hi Kats, Just this week I received a box set of 'Fairlady Z Story & History' Vols 1 & 2, kindly sent to me by editor Morita san as a gift. He said the photo printing production in the new edition was improved (maybe colour contrast is better?) and indeed it is beautifully produced. I was proud to have made a small contribution for the section which covered the race & rally cars. There are many never-seen-before photos in there. Recommended!
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Just my opinion, but if we could 'stop the clock' at some point in the car's life then the most important - as well as, arguably, the most attractive - might well have been when it first became a race car in (mid?) 1970. 33 Red. I'd say that was a 24 year old Gene Tierney type moment...
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
OK then, in my little fantasy scenario we can still have the dent in the roof - complete with young lady if required - and see what kind of hullabaloo comes of it.
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Z's on BAT and other places collection
Categorically NOT "the sixth Datsun 240Z ever built", but the page was last updated in 1998. First one to be delivered to a Datsun dealer? Hmmm... What if dept: It is interesting to imagine the hubbub the car would create if it still existed in its as-delivered state, if the caved-in roof had been repaired and the car had had a quiet life in sympathetic hands only to reappear today in remarkably original, untouched condition. Seismic, I think.
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S20 air boxes
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S20 air boxes
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S20 air boxes
Here's my factory replacement airbox on period Weber 45DCOE-9s and S20 inlet manifold, for shape reference:
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S20 air boxes
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S20 air boxes
Hi Ian, On the colour question, both the Skyline GT-R (PGC10 & KPGC10) and Fairlady Z432 (PS30) airbox and connecting tube were RED from the factory, with the 432's airfilter housing being BLACK (because it was mounted ahead of the radiator support) whilst the GT-R's were RED (because they were in the engine bay). Factory replacement spare parts came in (manufacturer) Tsuchiya's factory blue colour, as per your photo. The mounting holes for the 432's airfilter box are present on the radiator supports of all contemporary L-series engined S30-series Z models (both Domestic and Export), as are - of course - the holes for the duct and the (diverted) cabin fresh air inlet. The captive nuts for the mounting of the factory option S20 olil cooler are there too. The 432's airbox fits on the car without any special accommodation/clearancing for the clutch master cylinder.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Oh, and one other thing. It has been said that Nissan are considering the possibility of making this 'Customized Proto' into a Limited-Edition model variant, and they suggested an edition of 240 cars. I think that is disappointing. I do not think the number '240' has any significance in this context. Personally, I would choose 25 as the original series production quantity necessary to homologate the 432-R into JAF and FIA Group 5 Prototype racing class (but maybe not enough to be worthwhile), 270 (although not many people would understand why...) or just 432. In any case, judging by the positive reaction, they should probably consider a much higher quantity. They'll sell!
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Hi Kats. I have a theory. Just a hunch, but I feel that the very high profile of Takeuchi san's PZR in recent years has been an inspiration to Nissan's design team. His car has been seen in magazines, videos, blogs, social media posts, indoor and outdoor shows, autocrosses and just generally driving around everywhere. It has even been my personal taxi service on more than one occasion. Takeuchi san is very generous with his time and his car, and many people get to see it. Takeuchi san even joined us here on classiczcars.com and shared his restoration with us. It is one of the most special variants of the S30-series Z range, but it is not locked away in a glass box. It lives! I think the styling team's inspiration for this 'Customized Proto' show car was not just any Fairlady Z432-R, but Takeuchi san's 432-R in particular.
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Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432
Hi Kats, Amazingly, despite my expectations, I actually like it too. Maybe even love it. Perhaps I have Omicron...!? Some people outside Japan will be missing the reference point, which is: