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hi Guys,

well, i have managed to snap up the 240K GT that was recently on ebay.. It is a 72 model (complied in australia 1/73) and it is build number 280! i know it wasn't probably the smartest buy.. considering my other project.. but i just can't resist sometimes!

unfortunately the car was a bit of an ongoing "project" and most of the bits of the car have been lost including the original engine, gearbox, bonnet, rear light panel, dash cluster, seats.. it was destined to have some form of V8 in it, but i am looking to fix her up and try and bring her back to a somewhat original look. the car is moslty stripped at the moment, so i am looking at fixing the remaining rust, get her painted again, and then put her all back together using some of the other parts i have lying around.

from what i can gather, the rear lights are original, it has the GT door cards, dash top is in good condition (though probably re-covered), and the Diff looks original (no idea what condition it is in though).

from what i can find, the only other really functional difference between the GT's and the GL's was that it came with a MPH/KMH speedo..

If anyone finds one of these in their travels, or knows of the whereabouts of one.. can you please let me know!!

Kent

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it is now my 4th 240k coupe.. (in as many years).. only one of those were complete cars.. and the others have all been "complete cars that just needed to be put together (yeah right!).. so that would make only 5 cars i have had the pleasure of being involved with! i am hoping that one day i will find a C10!

and i think commited might be the right term :D

thanks guys, would appreciate it if you ever see something..

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Spewing you only just bought the coupe, if it had off been bought a year ago I could've given my engine and gearbox to you.

I just gave away a heap of parts to SWR including Hilux calipers and old school mags, front end and rear end. If you need any of those parts I'm sure they'd give you a good price maybe even free.

I'm hoping to be able to afford a C10 GTr one day as I love them soooooooo much. They look so hot.:love::love::love:

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Kent, there's a lot more different than those few items.

Speedo is MPH only, not dual MPH/KPH.

Odometer is 5 digit.

Oil pressure is imperial.

Water temp is imperial.

Dash does not have the parking brake and brake system warning lights in the lower right corner.

Tacho has the brake system warning light in the lower centre.

Air vents are rectangular.

Front and rear springs are lower and stiffer.

The ADR plate describes the car as a "DATSUN GT COUPE".

If you really want to go down the rebuild path, work out your plan and get in touch.

I've got a complete (stuffed) 240K GT for spares plus some of the unique parts out of another one.

The "DATSUN GT COUPE" ADR plates for those two cars are not for sale.

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btw, there's actually a s**t pile more 'little' differences to deal with for a really good restoration!

oh, and I forgot about those taillights. They are not original GT parts, they are JDM items.

The JDM lights do NOT comply with the Australian ADR's applicable at the time of manufacture and could not be fitted by Nissan.

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Hi Arc,

that is some awesome information.

I will need to see what the car is missing on saturday afternoon when i pick it up, but i know that all the instrumentation is missing (including the bezel), i didn't check when i looked at it, but i assume the dash is the original one just recovered.

Unofrtunately it looks like the car was half pulled apart a number of years ago, then it has moved from place to place.. and some of the important parts have gone walkabout. The guy has obviously been picking up bits and pieces as he went.. but i am not confident he knew exactly what he was looking for

do you happen to have a picture of the rear beaver panel? the one that "comes" with the car has a different datsun badge (almost like what i remember the sedan one to be) to what i have seen before, and it had a GL badge on it, so i presume it is not the original.

I would be very interested in any GT parts that you can spare (including all the dash bits).. i will pm you on the weekend.

I guess i should be hunting for some more 240k GT pics by the sounds of it!

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Art, not all of those are differences between GT and GL. Some are differences between early and late model cars, and some I question are differences at all (never seen a 240K with anything other than a 5-digit odo...)?

Kent, there were two "early" rear Datsun badges as far as I'm aware. One has black text (never actually seen one on a car) and the other has white. Are you sure the badge you have on this isn't just a later model badge? Got a picture of it?

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the only pic i have is this one (the one in the auction). i will certainly have a lot more on saturday!

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Lachlan,

You're right that some are early vs later cars, just pointing out those that are very specific to the 'earliest' of the earlies.

I've inspected a couple of supposed GT's that somehow 'lost' their ADR plates which owners were trying to sell at inflated prices, both were doctored early GL's with no provenance traceable to Nissan.

Maybe the 6 digit odometer that I pulled out of a '75 240K is actually a later release OEM replacement part?? Dunno & really don't care!

Kent,

There is a spare DATSUN badge which could have been any colour (nothing evident now). May have another in white. Like Lachlan, I've seen the black badge but not on a car.

I'll get a pic tomorrow of the original on our better car.

Rear panel may be a problem, at least in very good or better condition. I have a spare but it's what I would deem restorable.

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Good question.

If Nissan have done their usual thing then the panel itself may well have exactly the same holes in it that the original GT one had.

If that is the case, just a matter of replacing the badges.

If not a little rework with a MIG or TIG welder would be easier and cheaper than sourcing and shipping another!

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Kent,

You mentioned that the car was complianced 1/73, was it described as a "DATSUN GT COUPE"?

If so then we now have five examples of Australian delivered Datsun 240K GT's that have good documentation and provenance traceable to Nissan Australia.

At $1500 I would consider that you made a pretty reasonable investment.

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Good question.

If Nissan have done their usual thing then the panel itself may well have exactly the same holes in it that the original GT one had.

If that is the case, just a matter of replacing the badges.

If not a little rework with a MIG or TIG welder would be easier and cheaper than sourcing and shipping another!

I think the panels are the same, its just that the badges are different. Underneath the big Datsun badge is the narrow indent that the jdm skyline and export datsun badge fit in. I pulled the badges off the back of my sedan and it had the narrow indent.

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Hi Art.

Yes, the compliance plate is stamped GT, and the VIN is #280, i am not sure when it was made (will find out on saturday), however it had to be 1972 (when did the 240k production start.. considering this is #KHGC110-0000280.. it can't be too much earlier).. i am not sure if it will come with any documentation or books unfortunately.. it would be nice, but i am not holdign my breath considering the rest of the stuff that has been lost. I am glad to hear that the price sounds justified.. i had started to wonder if i had just dazzled myself and paid too much

I am not sure of the condition of the rear panel (the GL badge will certainly go), but i have never seen a datsun badge that takes up the whole width of the rear before.. is this normal? the only ones i can think of seeing, only took up the indent in the centre (but then i could be easily confusing them with my GT-R one).. is this a badge off a sedan or something?

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Lachlan?

Which year had this badge?

Kent,

as Mr Camo has been kind enough to verify, sounds like your panel is most likely usable with new badging.

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Kent,

No visible difference between early 240K GL and GT panels.

I would think that all Nissan did there was alter the badge to satisfy our rapacious insurance companies.

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Hi Art.

I am not sure of the condition of the rear panel (the GL badge will certainly go), but i have never seen a datsun badge that takes up the whole width of the rear before.. is this normal?

Yeah, ive seen them before. They are made up of 3 parts. The central datsun badge, and the 2 separate badges either side, the left one is just the bar thing. The right one is the bar incorporating the 240K GL.

I'm 99% sure the when you pull the badges off you will be able to put a badge like Art has on there.

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thanks mr. Camo that makes sense.

do you know where these badges originated from? were they JDM, special or something? i find it odd that datsun would make a badge like that (unless it is from another model).

should have a few more pics of things tomorrow.. can't wait now!

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Also on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140168964749&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

except these are C210 (unless later C110's got those o'seas).

Original early '73 badges are quite different. Note the deep red in the upper edge groove which I am told was all round the badge.

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Thanks Art, i saw those on ebay today, but i wanted to see what badges the car came with in teh morning before i made a bid on that ($55 seems quite expensive for a 2nd hand badge, i paid just a little more for a NIB GT-R one!)

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