HS30-H

Yes, the 'net is indeed "full of crap". It's like a Typhoid-infected well at times. It may be a token gesture, but we've spent a lot of time and effort on this forum over the years trying to get the story surrounding our cars right. If there's one place where we should try to get it right, surely it's here? Why should the Goertz Myth be repeated here, of all places? Our well should have clean water in it. So by all means point at the site, but if you know it contains blatant errors then please flag them up. If you don't, it looks like some kind of endorsement. I like the cars and I like driving too ( you think I don't? ). But if more of us were virtual "proof readers" then perhaps we might not have to wade through quite so much nonsense being written - and repeated - about those cars. Other make and marque enthusiast groups don't stand for it, so why should we?

Perhaps you might like to point out the presence of the pot holes to other road users who are following your directions...? You've posted links to similarly flawed articles with no comment in the past. I think it's worth commenting on / querying / correcting the mistakes here ( where better? ) as well as on the original site ( should they actually allow comments to be posted ) as that's the only practical way to promote the truth.

Are you recommending this, Blue? It's yet another short article that makes mistakes. They quote facts and figures for the North American market cars and fail to properly explain the German ( Euro ) market specs. The car in their pictures is one of the 'Vintage Z Program' cars on German license plates ( so it's not even an original German market car ) and appears to be something of a parts hotchpotch, too. "Die 240 Z-Karosse geht auf einen Entwurf von Albrecht Graf Goertz zuruck...." According to whom? According mainly to Albrecht Goertz, that's who. None of the main players in the creation of the S30-series Z attribute even a small part of it to Goertz. The Goertz story relates to another design which never reached production. What a pity we still have to see Goertz getting a namecheck, but no mention of the people who actually were responsible.

I'm 99% sure it's an Izumi. Made by the same people who made the OEM steering wheels for 'our' cars ( Izumi Motor Co. made the 'Datsun Compe' steering wheels too... ) but one of their many aftermarket versions. And I think it's been modified some time in its life too....

The short answer to that is..... absolutely nothing. Never even heard of it! Sorry!

A photo from one of the build-up reports ( issue no.84, dated January 2000 ) shows the same location as the original shot, and some of the build team:

Chris, I'm not a member of that Facebook group so I can't do cavalry charge to come to your aid ( or even Medevac you out of there..... ) but the build of this ( replica ) car was covered comprehensively in J's Tipo magazine in the late 1990s. The fact that the car even appeared at the 2000 Convention in the USA should ring some bells with the nay-sayers. The photo of Katayama san inspecting the car after it had been painted was also in J's Tipo magazine, included in one of the build reports. Proof positive that people ought to at least try to keep original source information with the photos that they right-click-and-save.....

OK, now I remember.... The car was/is a project build by a member of the 'J's Tipo' magazine staff in Japan, and the whole build was covered in the magazine in the late 1990s (!). They even took the car to the 2000 Z Car Convention in the USA. Some scans from J's Tipo magazine. This was issue no.92, dated September 2000:

Chris, It's a replica / 'tribute' car being built in Japan. Covered by one of the magazines, too. I'll see if I can find it and give you a link.

It's not an LY. 'CF-L' is an acronym for 'Cross Flow-L (series)'. It's basically a single-cam RB head converted to run on an L-gata 'block, with dedicated castings and specially machined components. Guy who made it ( them ) in Japan has a blog showing the whole process. ( Edit: Sato san's blog is where you found it..... ).

I think it's a given. A distinct model - quite different in the metal ( and plastic! ) from its siblings - and with somewhere around 25 cars produced for homologation in JAF's 'Prototype' class ( depending which ones you count... ) it has to be the rarest model in the whole S30-series Z range. Think of it as the equivalent of the Porsche 911R - its inspiration - and it starts to make more sense. Next up would have to be the 'ordinary' ( but extraordinary ) PS30 Fairlady Z 432 with around 420-ish built. Then perhaps the other factory 'homologation special' - the HS30-H Fairlady 240ZG with 500 built ( the minimum for FIA Group 4 homologation ) or perhaps slightly more. In terms of distinct factory models that were made to be sold to the general public, I'm sure that the PS30-SB, PS30 and HS30-H are the top three in terms of rarity and current market value. Alan T.

Hardly. Try thinking about the PS30-SB, PS30, HS30-H etc etc before you get into limo territory....

I don't think it's got anything in the hole. The lower dash mount is visible, and you would not see that if the plastic storage pocket thingy was installed. They were an extra-cost option on the 'S30-S' Fairlady Z 'Standard' ( no frills ) model. I was really happy to get one last year, but can't think what to do with it except put it on the bookshelf and feel pleased with it.....

The LHD was the mirror image. The RHD was the mirror.

Full of errors. Classic poisoned well. Best avoided.

If you're going into that level of detail, I don't know how you can hope to be accurate without detailed photos of every part on the car. There are literally thousands of non-standard parts and details on a Works rally car, and every car was unique in some way. This pic is out of focus, but it shows the knob mounted to the right of the centre Halda. This knob is a rheostat for the navigator's Halda-illuminating 'P' light that's above it:

One thing to note about the Kakimoto cam / tappet cover on an S30-bodied car is that the very front edge can rub on the inside of your bonnet / hood as the engine moves around a little under drive and engine braking. The solution is to fit engine mounts with uprated rubber ( like the Kameari units ) and lower the engine slightly by slotting the mount brackets. There's plenty of space in the S130-series body though ( as in your pic of Kakimoto san himself )....

Earliest Japanese market factory parts list for the S30/S30-S/PS30/PS30-SB - to my knowledge - is dated Dec.1969. They are extremely interesting and useful resources, and a great aid in understanding the whole S30-series Z range.

The view of the R/H side of the centre-mount Tripmaster is partially obscured by the P-light. There is another Tripmaster mounted on the lid of the glovebox, and the view of the R/H side of that one is clearer:

Sorry, but no. I have hundreds of photos of this particular car so it would be a logistical problem to 'give' them to you, as well as a philosophical one. A better reference for your purposes might be Tamiya's 1/12 scale model kit of the car. Especially so for the exterior graphics. You can still find them for sale now and then. Alan T.

I wish I did...... The car is the actual 1971 East African Safari Winning car ( Japanese reg: 'TKS 33 SA 1223', Chassis number 'HS30-00073' ) and it is part of Nissan's 'Heritage Collection' housed at the old Zama plant in Japan. I've seen and photographed it many times over the years, as I have a deep and ongoing interest in Nissan's works race and rally cars.

All the photos in this thread were taken by me.

It's a Halda Tripmaster, made not so far away from you ( in Sweden ).

It's good manners to thank the chef for what you've already eaten before you ask for a second helping...