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Tomohawk, I got the impression (evidently incorrectly), from your posts that you wanted it to be judged in one of the other classes. Obviously I misunderstood... Will

Tomohawk, I have reread your posts, and I think the required equipment would all be covered easily in any of the Modified classes with out loosing any points(as long as your installs are excellent). You have a custom console and shifter, sunvisors, as well as a camera mount and light on your rearview mirror-your car fits in the modified categories. The stock class should have no allowances for updating to current code or driver requirement as the cars are supposed to be time capsules. There shold be a difference between a driver and a truely stock car. Most gold medallion class winners are hardly driven-None have been daily transportation in the immediate time frame prior to being judged in a show. If you don't want your car in the daily driver class, give it a good cleaning and enter it in one of the modified classes! Will

Working or not? WIll

Excellent info-several things I had no clue to consider-presence on or ommission from the list... My car won't really look all that modified-most of my efforts are lending toward that goal. l go back through my working copy of the lists... Arne, I am putting off finishing the car until a month or two before the show simply so I won't succumb to the temptation to drive everywhere! After the show the car will be driven and thoroughly enjoyed, and though the trailer may be where she comes to rest at night(My one car garage is for the works in progress), it will be more of a Mobile home for her-AW Sh!t she will be queen of a trailer park... Will

If I had known, I would have stopped by, I went to the Studebaker show and swap meet in Charleston today-the car turn out was a dissappointment. I have a spare set of the seat mounts that came with my floor pans-from Charley Osborne. Will

VERY CAREFULLY! You actually have to squish it to get it out, the whole thing is carefully flexed inward(top to bottom and bottom to top) and cautiously and gently worked out-or snatch the sucker out and buy a new one(MikeW has made a heck of a replica!) He might well have one available! Will

I simply want to see what will count as a Modification to be sure I don't exceed 25-I am not worried about deductions. With EVERYTHING counted as a mod, I have 29, and I have more up my sleeve! My thought is that some of what I am counting may not be counted, If I know for sure I can add more to the mix! As to the Bus fare-I would probably send you a buddy pass instead and pick your brain to the point you would want to go back to work! Unfortunately, everything is still in boxes! Almost 90% of what I have taken off is restored or has been replaced with NOS and ready to be put back, but the sheet metal has hardly been touched(other than all of the rust has been cut out and new panels welded in.) Will Ps thanks for your thoughts Kats- the sticker story you posted told me alot as well! Will

I went throught the rules and was left with three areas of questions as they relate to the Street Modified and Nissan Modified classes. Please assume all parts in question to be new old stock-or equivalent in condition. 1) Though changing color does make a visable difference, if I change the color of an OEM group of parts will each group/piece count as a modification? In example: In the engine compartment, If I paint/powder coat/plate all of the OEM brackets one color(but not the color they came in), and paint/powder coat/plate the OEM exhaust manifold a different color, how many modifications will that be counted as? 2) I may be using some genuine Nissan parts from the same year but different market S30. As some cars did come from the factory(as opposed to the dealer) with these parts, do they count as a modification. In example: I am planning to use a fuse box area cover with a dual rocker parking light switch. The cover assembly was made to fit my console and simply was not a part intended to be destined for dealers in the USA. Will that be counted as a modification? 3) I am entering a '72 240Z and will be using cosmetic parts from earlier and later 240Zs, will each instance be a modification-even though the parts are listed as interchangeable in the USA/Canada parts book dated November of 1974? In example: I will be using an early Red dot rearview mirror, and a later pull type Hazzard light switch, in an early dash in a 1972 240Z. How many modifications will that be counted as? Thanks for your thoughts! Will

I can send him one as well, and not miss it from its place in a car(it is in a storage box)! I'll dig it out tomorrow and follow Arnes lead! Will

I heard back from Mr. Gasparola, evidently the one on the site is the current one. However, in going back to through the site, both the 2002 revision and the 2005 revision are available on the site-depending on the link used to fing the rules. Here is the link for the November 2005 revision: http://www.zcca.org/downloads/JudgingRules_rev2005.pdf I have been using the 2002 revision, so I will print out and study the 2005 revision and see if my questions remain. Will

Thanks! I sent my question to everone with a ZCCA.org address and every one bounced back to me(then I tried the next one), I'll try the alternate. you listed. Will

My '72 is signed up even though I have yet to finish the bodywork, and it is still axles up on my rotisserie. I am probably entering in either the Nissan or Street Modified class-depending on rules interpretation-fortunately, the signup process stated that the class would be verified before the show. Because of some of the things I am doing with the car, and the wording of the rules I have a few questions about what constitutes a modification to confirm-I am assuming on the side of having "No" for an answer, but "Yes" could radically change things. I would prefer to have the answers that the rules should successfully convey, and not the questions that I am left with. But! A current copy of the rules may well address my questions! Will

It looks like the ZCCA is contact challenged-emials to the webmaster and all other contacts listed bounced back.

First, The rules on the ZCCA site are revised 2002, but I have a printed copy that was revised in November 2005, does anybody have a link to a newer revision? No sense discussing something that has changed... I just requested direction to the latest version of the rules from the webmaster at the ZCCA Will

Car Show rules sometimes are subject to interpretation, and as more people enter a hobby, are sometimes found not to be as well defined as intended, Since the ZCCA show rules are important to the Z community, lets deal with them first. I hope to have some help in pasting some posts from another thread here as a starting point... Will

I think posts 27 through 33 need to be in another thread(though 27 and 28 are pertinant), not only because they are going off topic, but also because they are a great subject I really want to get into-without hijacking this thread! Somebody help me please! Will

Cyl pressure too high? The two to three hours to leak down...then it works.. Take out the plugs one at a time and try, if yes, install a compression tester and try. If I am right, you will probably find the issue in the valve train Will Oh sure Ramses, read my mind and type a shorter version!

Mike, Here is a quote from the ZCCA rule book: "A) STOCK CLASS Vehicles exhibited must be configured exactly as shipped from factory (NOT DEALER). Cars with Dealer add-ons such, as wheels, other than stock tires, side moldings, etc. can enter this class with deductions for same. Radios, paint color, tires, etc. must be as shipped. A/C must be factory installed except 240Z which may have same A/C as installed by dealer, i.e. ARA or Frigid King, with basic York compressor. " In a ZCCA show, this is why... Complete ZCCA rules are found here: http://www.zcca.org/downloads/JudgingRules_rev2002.pdf Will

Maybe a photo gallery(or photoshop gallery) might show just how great they look! My '72 will be a dark blue metalic, and I know white would be jumpin! Will

Another Update! I made a mistake and left out a contibutor! My appologies MIKEW! If I have made any other mistakes, please let me know! I want them all fixed beore the project is finalized and ready for delivery(not that that is close at hand!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newly updated list of what is onhand for the club project Undated Gold cover 240Z Sports Chassis and Body---------------------HLS30 Datsun 240Z Owners Manual 20th July, 1970 (050500)-----------------HLS30 71 Owners manual ---------------------------------------------------Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information Guide, 1, April 1971 c10e-ALLMU2-----Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information GGuide 15 May 1971 ------------NOTA280 71 dealer Stock sticker---------------------------------------------BRE240Z 71 FairladyZ Owners manual CST-113ZB ------------------------NOTA280 Service and Warranty booklet for late '70-----------------------------Arne Hitachi Radio ModelTM-1081ZB, -------------------------------------Arne 1971 FSM Chassis and body P/N 20016C---------------------------CHRISA 1971 Warranty and Service 15th May 1971 (124000)---------------CHRISA 1971 DatsunWarranty Card-7/16/71------------------------------BRE240Z 1972 Datsun 240Z Coupe Accessories PFORM 30003----------------------(((MIKEBRAME))) 1972 Chassis and Body 10th September 1971---------------------------HLS30 1972 Engine -----------------------------------------------------MIKEW 1972 Emmission Controls System 20th OCt 1971 (020900)---------------HLS30 Heater Model S30 Series February 1973 (010500)----------------------HLS30 Datsun Hitachi Car Radio Model KM 1520ZC (7630871)------------------HLS30 1972 Warranty and Service 20th April 1972 (043000)------------------HLS30 240Z owners Manual 6thed. 31st, may, 1972 (171100)------------------HLS30 1972(December)-1969(January) Technical Bulletins--------------------HLS30 240Z Owners Manual March, 1973 (221500)-----------------------------HLS30 1973 FSM P/N 20036--------------------------------------------------HLS30 1974 iNTRODUCING THE dATSUN 260z------------------------------------HLS30 1974 USA/CANADA Parts BOOK PUBNo. C-001OU-=-------------------------HLS30 1975 FSM P/N 20048--------------------------------------------------CHRISA 1976 Owners MAnual September 1975(390940)---------------------------HLS30 1977 FSM-Currently on loan------------------------------------------HLS30 1978 FSM------------------------------------------------------------HLS30 1979 FSM March 1978 (030620)P/N 20073 -----------------------------HLS30 1983 Owners ManualOctober 1981 (272000)-----------------------------HLS30 DATSUN AirConditioning 91-19394 REV A------------------------------BRE240Z ADS new Dartsun 260-Z---------------------------------------------------CHRISA Perfection Fuel Injection Datsun 280Z-------------------------------CHRISA Anatony of a Legend: 260Z 1974--------------------------------------CHRISA Wanted Datsun 240Z--------------------------------------------------CHRISA Sports Illustrated Z swimsuit issue---------------------------------HLS30 *************ADDED**************** S30 Microfische 8 page set dated December of 1979-------------------GEEZER S130 Microfische 5 page set dated June 1984--------------------------GEEZER 1983 280ZX FSM-------------------------------------------------------HLS30 Competition parts catalogs July 1974, 1978, 1998, 2000-I have more, but these are the ones with changes in S30 parts... Confidential Factory Product information 1974-1979 Technical Bulletins 1969-1972, 1973, 1975, 1980-1985 Technical Bulletin Cross Reference Guide 1979-1984 Introduction of the Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series Dealer condifential Parts Price List AO 1/1/2000 Will ps, I HAVE FOUND A FEW TYPOS IN THE LIST, SO PLEASE GO BY THE MOST RECENT VERSION TO CHECK FOR WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE ARE MISSING!

Another Update! Geezer has obtained the last fische sets made by Nissan for the S30 and S130. He will be donating those with the help of his son! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newly updated list of what is onhand for the club project Undated Gold cover 240Z Sports Chassis and Body---------------------HLS30 Datsun 240Z Owners Manual 20th July, 1970 (050500)-----------------HLS30 71 Owners manual ---------------------------------------------------Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information Guide, 1, April 1971 c10e-ALLMU2-----Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information GGuide 15 May 1971 ------------NOTA280 71 dealer Stock sticker---------------------------------------------BRE240Z 71 FairladyZ Owners manual CST-113ZB ------------------------NOTA280 Service and Warranty booklet for late '70-----------------------------Arne Hitachi Radio ModelTM-1081ZB, -------------------------------------Arne 1971 FSM Chassis and body P/N 20016C---------------------------CHRISA 1971 Warranty and Service 15th May 1971 (124000)---------------CHRISA 1971 DatsunWarranty Card-7/16/71------------------------------BRE240Z 1972 Datsun 240Z Coupe Accessories PFORM 30003----------------------(((MIKEBRAME))) 1972 Chassis and Body 10th September 1971---------------------------HLS30 1972 Engine 15th February 1972 (010350)-----------------------------HLS30 1972 Emmission Controls System 20th OCt 1971 (020900)---------------HLS30 Heater Model S30 Series February 1973 (010500)----------------------HLS30 Datsun Hitachi Car Radio Model KM 1520ZC (7630871)------------------HLS30 1972 Warranty and Service 20th April 1972 (043000)------------------HLS30 240Z owners Manual 6thed. 31st, may, 1972 (171100)------------------HLS30 1972(December)-1969(January) Technical Bulletins--------------------HLS30 240Z Owners Manual March, 1973 (221500)-----------------------------HLS30 1973 FSM P/N 20036--------------------------------------------------HLS30 1974 iNTRODUCING THE dATSUN 260z------------------------------------HLS30 1974 USA/CANADA Parts BOOK PUBNo. C-001OU-=-------------------------HLS30 1975 FSM P/N 20048--------------------------------------------------CHRISA 1976 Owners MAnual September 1975(390940)---------------------------HLS30 1977 FSM-Currently on loan------------------------------------------HLS30 1978 FSM------------------------------------------------------------HLS30 1979 FSM March 1978 (030620)P/N 20073 -----------------------------HLS30 1983 Owners ManualOctober 1981 (272000)-----------------------------HLS30 DATSUN AirConditioning 91-19394 REV A------------------------------BRE240Z ADS new Dartsun 260-Z---------------------------------------------------CHRISA Perfection Fuel Injection Datsun 280Z-------------------------------CHRISA Anatony of a Legend: 260Z 1974--------------------------------------CHRISA Wanted Datsun 240Z--------------------------------------------------CHRISA Sports Illustrated Z swimsuit issue---------------------------------HLS30 *************ADDED**************** S30 Microfische 8 page set dated December of 1979-------------------GEEZER S130 Microfische 5 page set dated June 1984--------------------------GEEZER 1983 280ZX FSM-------------------------------------------------------HLS30 Competition parts catalogs July 1974, 1978, 1998, 2000-I have more, but these are the ones with changes in S30 parts... Confidential Factory Product information 1974-1979 Technical Bulletins 1969-1972, 1973, 1975, 1980-1985 Technical Bulletin Cross Reference Guide 1979-1984 Introduction of the Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series Dealer condifential Parts Price List AO 1/1/2000 Will ps, I HAVE FOUND A FEW TYPOS IN THE LIST, SO PLEASE GO BY THE MOST RECENT VERSION TO CHECK FOR WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE ARE MISSING!

More than 100 ultra bright leds and a used wiring harness, but less than the cost of the documents it took to make it. Seriously, there are still some decisions to be made that will affect the price, but all of my effort, time and expense in rounding up and scanning the documents is donated to the cause.... Will

Newly updated list of what is onhand for the club project Undated Gold cover 240Z Sports Chassis and Body---------------------HLS30 Datsun 240Z Owners Manual 20th July, 1970 (050500)-----------------HLS30 71 Owners manual ---------------------------------------------------Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information Guide, 1, April 1971 c10e-ALLMU2-----Arne 71 Datsun Consumer Information GGuide 15 May 1971 ------------------NOTA280 71 dealer Stock sticker---------------------------------------------BRE240Z 71 FairladyZ Owners manual CST-113ZB -------------------------------NOTA280 Service and Warranty booklet for late '70-----------------------------Arne Hitachi Radio ModelTM-1081ZB, -------------------------------------Arne 1971 FSM Chassis and body P/N 20016C--------------------------------CHRISA 1971 Warranty and Service 15th May 1971 (124000)--------------------CHRISA 1971 DatsunWarranty Card-7/16/71------------------------------------BRE240Z 1972 Datsun 240Z Coupe Accessories PFORM 30003----------------------(((MIKEBRAME))) 1972 Chassis and Body 10th September 1971---------------------------HLS30 1972 Engine 15th February 1972 (010350)-----------------------------HLS30 1972 Emmission Controls System 20th OCt 1971 (020900)---------------HLS30 Heater Model S30 Series February 1973 (010500)----------------------HLS30 Datsun Hitachi Car Radio Model KM 1520ZC (7630871)------------------HLS30 1972 Warranty and Service 20th April 1972 (043000)------------------HLS30 240Z owners Manual 6thed. 31st, may, 1972 (171100)------------------HLS30 1972(December)-1969(January) Technical Bulletins--------------------HLS30 240Z Owners Manual March, 1973 (221500)-----------------------------HLS30 1973 FSM P/N 20036--------------------------------------------------HLS30 1974 iNTRODUCING THE dATSUN 260z------------------------------------HLS30 1974 USA/CANADA Parts BOOK PUBNo. C-001OU-=-------------------------HLS30 1975 FSM P/N 20048--------------------------------------------------CHRISA 1976 Owners MAnual September 1975(390940)---------------------------HLS30 1977 FSM-Currently on loan------------------------------------------HLS30 1978 FSM------------------------------------------------------------HLS30 1979 FSM March 1978 (030620)P/N 20073 -----------------------------HLS30 1982 Owners ManualOctober 1981 (272000)-----------------------------HLS30 DATSUN AirConditioning 91-19394 REV A------------------------------BRE240Z ADS new Dartsun 260-Z---------------------------------------------------CHRISA Perfection Fuel Injection Datsun 280Z-------------------------------CHRISA Anatony of a Legend: 260Z 1974--------------------------------------CHRISA Wanted Datsun 240Z--------------------------------------------------CHRISA Sports Illustrated Z swimsuit issue---------------------------------HLS30 *************ADDED**************** S30 Microfische 8 page set dated March of 1979--------------------HLS30 S130 Microfische 5 page set dated June 1982---------------------------HLS30 1982 280ZX FSM-------------------------------------------------------HLS30 Competition parts catalogs July 1974, 1978, 1998, 2000-I have more, but these are the ones with changes in S30 parts... Confidential Factory Product information 1974-1979 Technical Bulletins 1969-1972, 1973, 1975, 1980-1985 Technical Bulletin Cross Reference Guide 1979-1984 Introduction of the Datsun 260Z Model S30 Series Dealer condifential Parts Price List AO 1/1/2000 Will

Hey Mike, I'm not afraid to drive your ZROFL ! Will

Only an lower vin Z! Will