Everything posted by Zed Head
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Flying Z
If it's still assembled you could clean it up and start it. Put it on a cart, crank it up and see what happens. Are the core plugs rusted or removed? Is there a head? If there's no head, is the timing chain held in place with a wedge? The short blocks are known to be very durable and last hundreds of thousands of miles. The heads tend to wear or get warped from overheating before the short block has problems.
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1978 280Z barn Find / sons dream car won't stay running
That part is a capacitor, AKA condenser. The one wire units ground through the case and mount, the two wire units have a separate ground wire, as yours does. But they both do the same thing. If the engine starts that's not likely to be your problem. If it was shorted, you'd know it because it would short whatever it's connected to. I wouldn't worry about unless you've measured continuity and know that it's shorted. If the car sat for ten years, you'll need to give many many more details on what's been done to it before you tried to start it. The gas tanks on these cars aren't well sealed and tend to get rusty after just a few years, let alone ten. The fuel pumps get rusty, the injectors get clogged, the filter could be full of water. Who knows. But since it does start and run for a short while, describe what happens as it dies. Does it just shut off quickly, or does it slowly lose idle speed and die? Will it restart immediately or do you have to wait? If ti won't restart, does it not have spark or not have fuel? The more detail the better. You can't just replace parts one at a time on these cars, you need to do lots of testing. Check the forum's Download section and get the 1978 Service Manual and the 1980 Fuel Injection Guide.
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74 260Z at Portland South PnP
Hope you haven't left yet. Forgot to say that the guy at the counter could't find it, but I think that he might have been faking computer literacy. He couldn't find any cars earlier than 1978 either, but there were about 10 out there. It's on Row 30. White.
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74 260Z at Portland South PnP
Good luck, They seemed to be having a 50% off sale. I saw a bunch of flyers but didn't read the dates. Just collecting or looking for particular parts?
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View inside Fuel tank, previous coating?
I mentioned this in the novel I wrote in Post 24: the coating has what's called a crosslinking agent in it. The solvents (MEK, acetone, etc.) that carried it in to the tank will be gone pretty quickly but the chemistry might take a little bit longer. I'd keep it somewhere warm so that the crosslinking chemistry (curing) can complete and make the coating durable. Put it outside in the sun and let it bake. If it's well covered inside I wouldn't put another coat in, the strong solvents in the second coat might cause the first coat to swell and come loose from the tank metal. Then you'll have a big floppy balloon of Red-Kote in your tank.
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1971 240Z rebuild
Are you sure it's the pump? Your picture shows what looks like an electric pump on the fenderwell, feeding the mechanical pump. It's too high to get a proper prime. Electric pumps generally should be at or lower than the fuel level in the tank so that they don't have to pull the fuel. They're designed to push. You could probably just remount that pump lower if you find that it actually works. Your mechanical pump should also be enough to get you going. You have a lot of wrong there.
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74 260Z at Portland South PnP
Went out to see if it had its gas cap. It did, doesn't now (figured out why my tank doesn't "whoosh"). Has some parts left, no engine or transmission (automatic), TC rods, steering gear, front and rear suspension (one drum left), glass, doors (no handles), R180, halfshafts. Bumpers and rear lights are bent up or gone.
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Is this acceptable?
A plating shop would probably just do a degrease then a plating dip. Electroplating is all about filling cracks and crevices for corrosion resistance, usually. You'd have to see the service description to know what they were offering.
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4-speed transmission rebuild kit
I would take a look inside before buying a rebuild kit. Sounds more like a broken part, than something a rebuild kit will fix. Along the same thought direction as EuroD, 2nd and 3rd usually show the signs of wear. Not 4th, for sure. If it has high miles it probably needs a new clutch anyway, before you grind the rivets in to the flywheel.
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Project Boondoggle (or, so I went and bought a Z!)
The pump parts can get stuck after stopping. It's essentially a set of roller bearings in a cage. Some rust, wear, or debris can jam it, then a tap can break it free. A mechanical problem, not electrical.
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1971 240Z rebuild
Seeing that wire, and considering that it';s a 240Z, you'll want to check your points. Looks like a 240Z distributor. Best just get new wires, plugs, points, etc. Even better, check that distributor isn't shot (the breaker plate bearings) and decide whether or not to just swap up to something better. You're already off of original.
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4-speed transmission rebuild kit
You used the synchros on different gears, not the ones they started on? Many say that the synchros and gear cone wear down together and you can't do that. But it seems like wear would be similar since they all start in the same tolerance zone. Aren't 3 and 4 on the same coupling sleeve and shift fork? Might be part of the problem. Just to simplify - is the clutch being replaced because of the 3-4 grinding problem or because it has problems anyway? A relevant anecdotal aside- you can shift a good transmission without the clutch once you get moving. I drove my old GTO all night that way back when it was too early to go home (high school weekend) and my clutch linkage broke in the early evening. Started it in first gear, then just matched RPM to keep going. Timed the traffic lights, etc. No racing that night though.
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4-speed transmission rebuild kit
Search EuroDat's work. He has many posts and at least one good thread on rebuilding. Maybe even some download material. The 5 speed references are good for you too, they're the same transmission, just with an extra gear. Word is that the aftermarket synchros are sketchy. You need to decide hwo much "rebuild"ing you want to do. Bearings, bushings, seals, synchros. How do you know it needs a rebuild? Many of us have solved synchro problems with better fluid.
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1971 240Z rebuild
Looks like your firing order might be off. I can only verify one wire from your picture and it looks wrong. What should be 2 is 4. Here's a couple of good references. http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/15211-firing-order-at-head-did-search/ http://www.classiczcars.com/topic/28399-firing-order-with-photos/
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cranking untouched 2 years Sentra
How's the old fuel smell? Some of the newer fuel systems are pretty well sealed. The tank might not be in bad shape. If it has that sweet smell, you'd probably want the external tank and pump for the short trip. Don't forget the return line. Your pump will suck a 2.5 gallon can dry pretty quickly. On the other hand, you could remove one of the outlet lines and see what comes out. If it's not wet and rusty, just draining and replacing what's in there might let you use the stock tank and pump. Zip tie all of the loose lines and wires, and seal everything up well. You won't have time to jump out and extinguish a fire if the pump is running full bore. I get nervous just running my setup to test injectors or when I had an engine running in the garage. OR. Just get a friend to tow it the old-fashioned way. A rope and a tire. 1/4 mile is nothing.
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Can't tell if I have the valve keepers in right!
Just a note - the socket and hammer are done with the valve head free, no compressor. That breaks the retainer free from the keepers. Then the spring compressor should easily press the retainer down so that you can remove the keepers. Your writing implies that you're combining the steps. Maybe causing binding. As I understand the various tips and tricks.
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Can't tell if I have the valve keepers in right!
Yes on the hammer drill. It's all about high inertia, low amplitude. There are also hammer drivers, for driving screws in to wood. The impact keeps the heads from stripping and pushes the screw in while turning. They come with adapters for sockets. I have a hammer drill, for concrete drilling, so if it was my problem I'd rig up a socket drive on the end and give it some spins. I've not read of retainers being so stuck that head removal is necessary but would be surprised if it happens. 150,000 miles of heat cycles and vibration.
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Can't tell if I have the valve keepers in right!
No tips on technique, but just a thought on "first principles". The point of hitting the retainer, using a socket, is to release it from its jammed position on the keepers, allowing it to move later without the valve and keepers, using the spring compressor.. If yours are jammed so tight that the inertia of the hammer blow can't break it free, maybe something like a hammer drill would help, or pneumatic chisel without the chisel. Your problem is that you can't move the retainer fast enough to leave the valve and keepers behind. The pros probably trust that their hammer hits will break it free and they just nail it hard. You're probably tapping weakly (no offense) afraid that you'll break something.
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Won't start
For the record, the distributor adjustment procedures are described in the Engine Electrical section. All of these checks and measurements are easy and can be done within an hour. 20 minutes if you've done them before. With that mind, plus the incorrectly installed distributor drive spindle, DJ may want to recheck valve lash. And cam timing (notch and groove) while the valve cover is off. If the valves don't open because lash is wrong, or valves are bent because cam timing was off the engine won't run right. No suction and/or no compression.
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Found metal at the bottom of my 5-speed. What next?
That's a good point on aftermarket. What brand is the new one? The engagement point should get narrower as the disc wears in. There are other factors also, like thickness of the marcel spring and just general tightness of tolerances for the disc and pressure plate. The slave cylinder self-adjusts becuase it stays as full as the clutch fork lets it. The piston in the cylinder is pushed back by the clutch fork and pushed forward by a spring inside. So it stays full and ready for action. If it refills through the hole in the MC, as described. I've mentioned this before, but one way to get very close to correct on the initial pedal linkage adjustment is to turn the rod clevis out until the clevis pin slides in easily with the pedal all the way up, pulled up by its own spring. Then you can add a few turns to tighten it even more or take out play from wear. If you had to pull/push the rod or pedal back or forward or get the pin in, it's probably not right.
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Need a miracle!
People new to engines often are somewhat oblivious to measurements. The actual numbers are very important. And sometimes the definitions of terms can be confusing. How did you "make sure" the timing was right? And what is "pulse"? As SteveJ noted, how did you check spark? How did you "try" to spray starter fluid? It either went in the manifold or it didn't. You and Djanssen have a lot in common. You both should probably go back to square one and check that the parts are correctly oriented. People have been putting these engines together the wrong way for many years. Engine Mechanical chapter, engine assembly section. Check the marks and orientations, the notch and groove, the rotor position, the timing mark, all of that. A good engine assembler will know that his engine is going to start because there are marks on all of the important parts. You just have to line them all up. Like ducks.
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Won't start
Oops. You really need to find that notch. The notch is placed so that you'll know exactly where TDC of #1 is. And TDC is what timing is referenced to. If the notch is wrong, your damper may be failing. Besides that, without the notch you won't be able to set timing. And timing is very important on these engines, they have a tendency to knock/detonate. You can't just turn the distributor until t sounds right, like an old US V8 engine.
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Found metal at the bottom of my 5-speed. What next?
You could still have some play in the pedal linkage, or air in the hydraulics. And the clevis pin and other parts have been known to wear. Congrats. You never did give a good telling of how you got the transmission installed, after getting a transmission jack. Did it slide right in or was there more cursing?
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Won't start
If you didn't find the notch on the pulley and set it to zero it may still be wrong. You can be off by one gear tooth. There's a procedure in the FSM, Engine Mechanical chapter, Assembly section that describes all of this, with pictures. Whoever put the engine together was not using the manual, apparently..