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Having bought some more paint recently at eye watering prices, I am considering getting a pro level gun. Tried to do some googling but kept finding the same useless info. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Sata, Iwata, DeVilbiss, Tekna, etc...

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Been there Charles! Watched a ton of Youtube videos (a few good but a lot of bad) and tried to find reviews worth reading (waste of time). Ended up with the DeVilbiss FLG4. I don't know how it compares to the pro-level guns that start at $500, but even to my very novice self, it's definitely an improvement over the cheaper ($50) Harbor Freight guns.

ETA: looks like HF has a new gun: https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools-compressors/air-spray-guns/20-oz-professional-hvlp-gravity-feed-air-spray-gun-56152.html I don't know anything about it, but a lot of HF's new professional tool lines have received good-to-excellent reviews and seem to be properly legit. It might be worth a look.

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I just bought a Warwick 904 HE HPLV gun. I’m inexperienced and have not used it yet. It’s supposed to be a good quality gun at a reasonable price. Spent about $280 for a kit that comes with an additional size tip/needle set.

I believe it’s a Iwata clone


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As a point of reference,  I  have an older Devilbiss set that has multiple tips. I probably paid in the $180s for it. I think its probably low $200s now. I suspect there is a noticeable step up to a good gun if you've sprayed enough. Starts to be justified when paint is getting this expensive. I would use it strictly for basecoat / clearcoat. Use my older gun for primer

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13 minutes ago, mailnome said:

I’m inexperienced and have not used it yet.

Ah... painting a car is easy, you just have to put on paint everywhere with the same thickness..  :rolleyes:

Just kidding.. if you can do that it's far from enough.. many variables are trying to make a mess of your paintjob, first look A LOT of you tube videos about painting it helped me..

I painted a car and only had 1 bad spot.. and that one i knew what went wrong and came out easy.

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Yep, a lot of variables and the biggest is inexperience.

Probably give a good painter a cheap gun and not optimally reduced paint and will still lay it silky smooth, then give a novice the best of everything set up perfect and not produce good results


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Im sorry, you say you are looking at the “pro” level guns. It may just come down to getting one that is similarly laid out to what you are already comfortable with or deciding what you don’t like about your current one and finding one that addresses that.


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@Mailnome,

Quite right.  Other things a guy will likely get right on the first try.  Make sure everything is clean, get the right parts on in the right order with the proper torque, and even if it's your first time, you will get it right.  But painting?  Not so much.  It is a practiced art.  Best equipment in the world and you will still have too much or too little  - all bald spots and leaks.  It would be as If you were a lousy golfer and Phil Mickelson loaned you his  clubs.  You would still be a lousy golfer.   

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I ended up getting a Devilbiss FLG5, very versatile and has a low cfm requirement, I had to buy the 1.8 set up in addition to the 1.4 that came with the gun. I think I paid $340.00

https://sprayfinishingstore.com/spray_gun/devilbiss-flg5-gravity-feed-spray-gun/

Edit, I just checked the price and they have come way down from what they were, https://www.ebay.com/itm/203638824293?mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338830130&customid=devilbissflg5&toolid=10001&mkevt=1

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Why the Ebay one is cheaper..

From the ebay site:

 This gun is made from a cast and is not milled (machined) like the DeVilbiss guns that cost hundreds of pounds. This keeps the cost down but means that there are minor imperfections where the casts are joined together. This is merely aesthetic. The functionality of the internals are top class.

Years ago i heard that DeVilbiss had a lot of trouble with fake sprayguns..  I wouldn't be surprised if these ebay ones are totally fake.

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A comment on ebay:

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GUN GREAT REGULATER RUBBISH

the gun itself is a great bit of k TO STOP AIR it BUT THE PRESSURE REGULATER IS RUBBISH ITS PLASIC AND IT WLL NOT TIGHTEN UP ENOUGH TO STOP AIR LEAKING ,HAD TO BUY ANOTHER WITH A METAL BODY ITS A PITY IT DID SPOIL A GOOD ITEM

Verified purchase: Yes | Condition: New | Sold by: mdabitec

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I bought this gun today

DEVILBISS 905043 Prolite Gravity HE TE10 TE20 1.2 1.3 1.4 Spray Gun Kit w/ Cup

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133769934729?epid=28045770277&hash=item1f254f3789:g:y80AAOSw9GRgq3iN

Eastwood had a good price but was $30 more on Black Friday than this seller. The seller on Ebay seems to sell all name brand stuff, so I went that way. I will verify it's an actual DeVilbiss when it gets here

 

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I apprenticed at an automotive body shop as a teen, late 1960s, early 1970s. Learned the trade from a guy who made body and paint his life’s work. I’ve painted a lot of cars, pickups, big trucks, a couple of tractors, and dozens of refrigerators. 

I even painted my mailbox.

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Good tools go a long way toward an acceptable result. I still own all the tools from then, and have added HVLP spray guns back when the paint systems changed.

Devilbiss is among the best, and all I own, both suction and HVLP.

The difference is in how the gun handles the material. A good spray gun will produce an even spray pattern, a cheap one will not.

Always clean the gun thoroughly after every use, especially with today’s catalyzed paints. Once they cure out, it is impossible to remove them from the passages inside the gun. Take good care of your equipment and it will reward you with good results for many years.

 

 

 

 

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I painted an exterior door what I thought was close to Safari Gold. Boy was I wrong. It looks like a school bus ran into my house and the arse end is sticking out. LOL

I'm going to fix it tomorrow. I added more umber and white tint now it looks better in the can.

Pictures on completion, it's cold down here.

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I did get one of those nicer HF guns, and I'm sure it does a nicer job than the cheapo HF gun I was trying to use.  Since I'm spending well over $1000 on primer, paint, and clear, I thought something more than a $50 gun is justified.  But, my painting still is not good.  I don't think I can learn technique and skill from youtube videos, but they help.  I need a peloton of painting.

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On 11/27/2021 at 9:00 AM, Richard McDonel said:

Racer X

Just finished painting my birdhouse.  White.  Made a mess.  Haven't the faintest idea how you did that mailbox.

The mailbox came powder coated black. I wet sanded it with 600. Then I taped off the flames, and shot the colors one at a time. I used two stage automotive base coat/clear coat paint. The color goes on and dries quickly, so each color can be done shortly after the previous one. By the time I had my gun cleaned and the next color mixed it was ready. After the colors were done I removed the masking, hand pinstriped a line around the flames, then mixed and shot the clear coat.

It has held up well, the picture was taken after about 12 years after the paint was laid down. I wash and wax it once a year.

My neighbors have all asked if I would paint their boxes, but shy away when I tell them how much it cost.

 

 

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Merry Christmas!

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If you buy a devilbiss and it doesn't have this security label, it's probably a fake.

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Such a pretty color!  SWMBO even liked it. 😉

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Looking forward to loading it up. It also has an included digital gauge, which I wasn't expecting.  Another nice thing about devilbiss guns, is many of them co.e with multiple tips. Which makes the really versatile.  Sata tips are like $150-$200 a pop!

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9 hours ago, Patcon said:

If you buy a devilbiss and it doesn't have this security label, it's probably a fake.

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Yeah.. but i think it's very sad that there are DeVILBISS guns that are completely fake.. they are a registrated trademark, can't they take those counterfeiters to court?

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You could try to litigate but most are in China and pretty well shielded by the government. Also the courts are slow. By the time you get a judgement they have already moved shop and setup under a new name. Also, even if you got a judgement, how would you enforce it? The Chinese government isn't going to help. A huge part of their GDP and clear profits are from copies of brand name products.

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