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1 hour ago, Av8ferg said:

One of the upper intake bolts is partially stripped. It will lightly tighten but when I torque it it spins.

I have a memory of there being two short bolts and two long ones, of the four across the top.  Maybe you got a short one in a long hole.  And, if it is the right bolt but it is stripped, maybe there are usable threads left at the bottom of the hole, that a longer bolt will grab.

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On 7/24/2021 at 1:02 PM, Av8ferg said:

Here are the motor mount from zcardepot.  Says they need modification?   Rock Auto had the Beck Arnley one for $10, wondering if they need modification too.  

 

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I believe there is a locating pin on the later ones that isn’t on the earlier Zs.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Zed Head said:

I have a memory of there being two short bolts and two long ones, of the four across the top.  Maybe you got a short one in a long hole.  And, if it is the right bolt but it is stripped, maybe there are usable threads left at the bottom of the hole, that a longer bolt will grab.

Or maybe a shorter one? Can't remember the torque spec but it can't be much.

 

28 minutes ago, Racer X said:

I believe there is a locating pin on the later ones that isn’t on the earlier Zs.

 

 

The 280s don't have a problem with the line up pin but the 240s do. They went to a universal fit off the 280 dimensions but they won't sit in the 240 holes. I had to file my 240 pins down to get them in. On my 280 they fit. 

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I think it was a short bolt. The bolts in the end are the long ones it appears because the intake flange is thicker there compared to the inner ones.

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If you have the correct tap, maybe its worth chasing and cleaning up the threads on that intake bolt hole and see if that improves the bolt threading in. 

The torque for the big intake bolts is about 25 ft lbs.

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On 7/24/2021 at 4:40 PM, Mark Maras said:

Plywood and steel wheels purloined from street skates in the early sixties. Sixty years later a few of the old memories (scars) remain and remind me of the good old days of adrenaline fueled afternoons and the painful recoveries.

Our generation invented skateboards.

The next generation perfected them.

The generation has made a career of skateboarding.

 

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On 7/24/2021 at 3:19 PM, Av8ferg said:


That’s a legit Old School one...amazing you kept it. I bought a new one Gator 2 years ago to ride with my kids. Boards are different these days. My son’s is on the left. My squadron gave me the one on the right.
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Nice longboard.

Have you ever tried the street luge? A buddy modified a couple of longboards and we ran down a long, twisty road near his house.

Most enjoyable.

 

 

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Nice longboard.
Have you ever tried the street luge? A buddy modified a couple of longboards and we ran down a long, twisty road near his house.
Most enjoyable.
 
 

I haven’t but I also don’t feel like being a cripple any time soon. As kids we used to “hillside” on our skateboards. I grew up in the Bay Area near San Francisco and we had serious winding hills where I lived. We would cannonball run down these hill that we’re over a mile long and we would weave down the hill sideways to slow down. We’d hit like 40 mph (had to tighten the trucks up big time to be stable) To do it we’d lay backwards and put one hand on the road. We had homemade gardening gloves what were massively wrapped in duck tape and had layers of plastic; the stuff used to protect the bottom of your skateboard. So you’d lay the glove down and push your trailing leg forward causing the board to skid sideways and slow down. You’d S turn like this all the way down the hill. It was epic fun but we had some close calls with oncoming traffic. Don’t tell me how I survived my childhood.


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Getting all the stars aligned for the big pull. Picked up a unused 1 ton engine hoist on CL for $100. Cheaper than renting one for a week. I’m sure there will be work stoppages and challenges I run into that could push my timeline out 30 days. Shooting for a week? Also got a leveler for $34 at Harbor Freight. I primed and painted my transmission to match the engine block yesterday. It’s looking good. I’ll start disconnects tomorrow.
-Cooling System
- Wiring
- Exhaust
- drive shaft from transmission
- slave cylinder
. Starter
-multiple misc items.
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Good luck with it! Don't scratch that nice paint job.

Those HF levelers are nice but scary when you're working by yourself. They pop and are jerky when using them while loaded down with the motor. That little handle is useless, put a socket on the other end. Grease the bottom rail the roller rides on, makes it a little smoother.

I found an old post of mine showing what I did. Might help you too.

Here's some reading for ya. Below the videos it's stuff from classiczcars.com.

https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+leveler+classiczcars.com&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc&ei=_6wJYZWmJtScwbkPxba40AY&oq=engine+leveler+classiczcars.com&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBQgAEM0COgQIHhAKUJuaAVjkrAFgxrkBaABwAHgAgAHIAYgB5g2SAQYwLjExLjGYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

Skateboarding comment. I always put my right foot down on the toe box of my tennis shoes and used that as a brake. Pissed my Mom off but what didn't eh?

I had to google "eh" to figure out what @Racer X meant. LOL

 

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Cliff, thanks for that.  I think it gave me more to think about.  I’m a bit concerned that my garage might not be tall enough using the load leveler with its standard set up.  My garage is 9’9” tall and I don’t know what I’ll need but I don’t want to be in the middle of the pull out to figure it out,  One response on the thread you sent the guy was worried about his 10’ garage not being enough, 
So, you mentioned that using ratchet straps should mitigate the height concern.  Did you strap one to each end of the leveler or did you just attach them to the main hook on the hoist?  Does anyone have any pics of that set up.  I have two helpers on call to help me get though this, both with the same level of auto skills as me…aka amateurs.  

Side bar Cliff……my  kid is burning though his vans (3 this year) because he thinks they’re perfect brakes.  Things haven’t changed.  We didn't have a lot of money when I was a young kid, my mom just said well it looks like you’re going to school with holes in your shoes.  All my shoes were hand-me-downs from my brother until I was probably in 7th grade. 

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I didn't use straps but I did read that. here's my setup before install. I used an old valve cover so not to scratch up my nice pretty one.

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Here's one of my favorite " calm down it'll be fine" pictutres from @Jeff G 78. He really helped me from jumping off the roof. He's like a big 'ol walking talking Valium. He's the one that told me to jack the rear up and I made the decision to let the air out of the front tires as much as I could while still getting the hoist under there. My ceiling is low too but it's exsposed rafters so I lined the hoist up in between the rafters. That bought me another 10 or 12 inches. When it was all over with I'd say I overthought the whole deal, it's easy and I did it all by myself. You got this Ferg. :victorious:

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Thanks Cliff, I like to think things through before jumping in head first.  I’ve leaned that lesson the hard way in life.   Do you think I need to remove the intake and exhaust manifolds first. Would prefer not to and just remove the exhaust pipe from the manifold.  
 
I have an old valve cover…good idea!  

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1 hour ago, Av8ferg said:

Thanks Cliff, I like to think things through before jumping in head first.  I’ve leaned that lesson the hard way in life.   Do you think I need to remove the intake and exhaust manifolds first. Would prefer not to and just remove the exhaust pipe from the manifold.  
 
I have an old valve cover…good idea!  

That's what I did. I only removed the hood then I unhooked everything up top, took the exhaust pipe off and the driveshaft then put a rubber cap over the transmission. I think I pulled the alternator and starter too. Don't forget the WD-40 cap over the clip for the hood hold up rod.

Here's a good thread from '05. Post #15 shows the rubber plug I'm talking about. You'll read about rolling the car out of your garage to get some stuff off then roll it back in for the removal, good advice.

 

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17 hours ago, siteunseen said:

 

I had to google "eh" to figure out what @Racer X meant. LOL

 

I’ve lived an hour and a half drive from Canada since 1970. Going to Canada is like driving across town. Been there so many times I lost count. 
 

When I turned 18 the drinking age up there was 18 so we would drive up Friday after work and spend the weekend bar hopping and sleeping in my friend’s van.

Always came home speaking “Canadian”. That’s what its all aboot, eh? Spent lots of dolers on beer.

When I was in Roanoke, Virginia a guy there accused me of being Canadian, said I had an accent.

So, yeah, I speak Canadian, eh?

 

 

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Jeff,
Thanks for the advice. I have a folding lift. I can easily get the bumper off since it’s a new 240 style and not the railroad tie.
Good advice all around. Got the radiator out today(what a mess) had to kick my dogs out of the garage before they tried to drink it. Wiring all labeled and disconnected. Working on the AC lines and compressor. Didn’t think the system was charged having sat so long. Got a nice blast of refrigerant on one line. Throttle links off, starter and heater hoses done. Going to drain the oil and trans fluid next. Headed to Lowe’s to get some rubber plumbing caps. Friend headed over to help with hood this afternoon. (Thanks Cliff for reminding me to mark the hinges).
Cliff what’s are you talking about when you mention the WD-40 cap on the hood rod?


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26 minutes ago, Av8ferg said:

Cliff what’s are you talking about when you mention the WD-40 cap on the hood rod?


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On the radiator support, you will see a spring clip that holds the hood prop.  Remove the prop rod and then tape the little red cap off of a WD40 can over the clip.  The oil pan will easily snap the clip off if you don't protect it with the WD40 cap.

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1 hour ago, SteveJ said:

"eh" is Canadian for "You know what I mean?"

I took it to mean "in agreement with" which is the same as you say but different words. 6 of one 1, half a dozen of the other, eh?

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All I have left is the exhaust and drive shaft those exhaust puppies are on there tight! Breaking out the 3/4” impact wrench.


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Coming in late to the thread, HF has different length hoist straps that you can wrap around a intake/exhaust or other points that lets you shorten the length of the chains.

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7 hours ago, Racer X said:

When I was in Roanoke, Virginia a guy there accused me of being Canadian, said I had an accent.

I always get the phrase "You ain't from around here, are ya boy?

Cliff knows the interpretation - ya better state your business before I introduce you to my Winchester.

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