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I saw 1 or 2 very early 1970 production date cars with hand throttles while working as a mechanic at a Datsun dealer in 1971. We weren't told to remove hand throttles but given my experience with such "passed down from the top' messaging at that time I'm confident application, If indeed official, wasn't consistent.

I apprenticed at a foreign car shop in 1969/70 and saw 1 or 2 Volvo's? & MB with hand throttles. 

 

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17 minutes ago, zspert said:

I saw 1 or 2 very early 1970 production date cars with hand throttles while working as a mechanic at a Datsun dealer in 1971. We weren't told to remove hand throttles but given my experience with such "passed down from the top' messaging at that time I'm confident application, If indeed official, wasn't consistent.

I apprenticed at a foreign car shop in 1969/70 and saw 1 or 2 Volvo's? & MB with hand throttles. 

 

That was my thought, that it's possible it slipped through or was somebody connected to a dealership and didn't have it removed...

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2 hours ago, Patcon said:

Weren't they removed at the dealers on import to the US?

Several very early (ie 69 production mostly) 240Z's arrived with the Hand Throttles, once the legal issue was realized - they were disabled at Nissan's Port Facilities prior to delivery to the Dealers. The Dealers were also notified and instructed to disable or remove them prior to sale.  It was against the law to Sell a new car with a hand throttle in most States - - but not against the law for a private owner to have on their car.   Lots of owners ordered the parts over the Datsun Part Counter at the Dealerships and installed them themselves.   None ever came from the factory to the US on any Series II 1971 240Z's.  The one installed on this Z does have the early style Choke/Throttle knob's. 

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18 hours ago, Terrapin Z said:

Those air horns though.......🤣 😂

Some factory rally s30s utilized air horns in place of (or on addition to?) stock horns, so there is a teeny-tiny precedent.  Probably unlikely that the owner installed them for that reason, but the next owner has that "out" to leave them on. 😄

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8 minutes ago, xs10shl said:

Some factory rally s30s utilized air horns in place of (or on addition to?) stock horns, so there is a teeny-tiny precedent.  Probably unlikely that the owner installed them for that reason, but the next owner has that "out" to leave them on. 😄

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What kind of horns did the rally cars use that made the oscillating two tone sound?

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23 minutes ago, Carl Beck said:

Driving a 240Z today surrounded by gigantic SUV’s and Pickup’s,  all too often driven by distracted drivers - I’m beginning to think Automotive Air Horns or even Train Horns are a good idea. 

I've had a set of dual-trumpet FIAMM air horns on my car for over 45 years. Not needed very often but get the job done when required! The trumpets are installed on the front side of the radiator support to get that sound right out front.

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Here are the trumpets, originally red plastic - I painted them black to better blend in. The compressor is mounted to the inner fender below the flow control valve. In retrospect, I wish I had mounted it about 4" more forward. I tapped one of the OE horn power wires to drive the compressor - a small red wire zip tied to the wiring bundle going thru the port in the radiator support.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/224586811672?hash=item344a6ac918:g:HPAAAOSw3ZFfyTd8
 

These dents should buff right out and that rust needs a splash or rust inhibitor.   
 

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It’s stuff like this that makes me wonder where things are going?  Are cars going up in value that fast or is our money becoming progressively worthless?  
We bought a 2021 Suburban one year ago at about 6k under the sticker MSRP.  About 6 weeks ago the dealership called us and said they’d be willing  to offer us MSRP for the car.   When I went online to look at similar vehicles they were goin for at 9k above MSRP.    Someone slap me and wake me up? 

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27 minutes ago, Av8ferg said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224586811672?hash=item344a6ac918:g:HPAAAOSw3ZFfyTd8
 

These dents should buff right out and that rust needs a splash or rust inhibitor.   
 

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It’s stuff like this that makes me wonder where things are going?  Are cars going up in value that fast or is our money becoming progressively worthless?  
We bought a 2021 Suburban one year ago at about 6k under the sticker MSRP.  About 6 weeks ago the dealership called us and said they’d be willing  to offer us MSRP for the car.   When I went online to look at similar vehicles they were goin for at 9k above MSRP.    Someone slap me and wake me up? 

And a little Armor All will make that upholstery look as good as new.  😎

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We had a whole long conversation about that car earlier.  There's something odd about the BHC.  They collect junk and overprice it.  Here's some old links, if they come through.

Posts 96, 175, and 205.

 

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Sorry, I must have missed that post.  Looks like nobody has bitten off on it,  FrankenZ for sure.  I did lean something about my collection of parts.  I have so many parts in several bins and now realize I don’t need those rear shock tower caps in  because mine is a 77.  I also have the proper 77 covers.   Zcardepot charges $76 each for those older puppies. 

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On 12/16/2021 at 10:28 AM, DC871F said:

What kind of horns did the rally cars use that made the oscillating two tone sound?

I'm not sure they were all the same, but this example appears to be a Fiamm MCHI Serie 2000 compressor. Horns are indeterminate.

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Originally sunshine yellow from the factory.  Sitting outside in a backyard didn't do it any favors...

When your in that town John, take a look and see if it has the 2400 valve cover, buy just that for $200 and give him a spare Nissan OHC one of yours.  Money in the bank.

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17 minutes ago, S30Driver said:

Originally sunshine yellow from the factory.  Sitting outside in a backyard didn't do it any favors...

When your in that town John, take a look and see if it has the 2400 valve cover, buy just that for $200 and give him a spare Nissan OHC one of yours.  Money in the bank.

Sunshine yellow, or Safari Gold? Looks a bit dark for Sunshine, but photos can be deceiving. 
 

most likely a late series 1 if it’s a ‘71. I don’t think the 2400 valve cover would have been there originally. 

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