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    A very interesting article on the Covid-19 impact on the hotel industry - especially important as it might pertain to large convention gatherings.  Of course, if there is a Fall seasonal resurgence of the virus, a lot of things might change even more.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/so-long-minibar-how-coronavirus-changing-your-hotel-stay-n1180226

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    Thinking about ZCON this year.  After being paid to stay home for over a month it'll be interesting to find out how many vacation days get wiped out.  If everything works out like Washington is thinking the month of September will be when we're getting back in stride and busy at the restaurant I work for.  I think I'll be able to get away for a week but am left wondering about others.  Time will tell but I sure hope we can all attend as planned.  Safe distance in a Z car?  I don't think so.  I figure in my Camry someone could sit in the back passengers side seat and we'd have 4 ft. :love:

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    It's less than 200 miles from your house to the convention hotel cliff.   How can this possibly not be a safe distance to drive your Z car?  :ph34r:

    I drive further than that on a nwazcc weekend drive here.

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    I paid $1,500 for a mattress 2 years ago. Comfort is important to me now.

    Mine are original cars from the '70s. Fun for a 30 minute rip around here but not road cars. 

    But I might, and I mean a light might, drive my 280. I could park next to you and do that "better by comparison" thing and you'd get flogged with lookers while I sit back and drink beers. LOL

     

     

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    I bet Dave WM is older than you and he drove his Z from Orlando to Pikes Peak and back with a damaged timing chain guide. If you show up in a Camry you will have to hand over your man-card immediately before you can drink a beer.


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    In four days I might add.. up and back with a couple day layover in Phenix city AL. I was going 70-80 most of the time 18hrs a day

    also no radio (lost that in  KS, turned out to just be a sticky of off switch), lost brakes somewhere in Arkansas (my bad after not properly tighten up brake line fitting after replacing a rear brake slave), timing chain guide lasted till the return trip in TN, did not even know it and continued on home. Next up is the tail of the dragon, then the big'un, Alaska via the ALCAN hiway.

    I thing the only real issue for making long trips is to replace that guide if it looks worn at all.

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    In four days I might add.. up and back with a couple day layover in Phenix city AL. I was going 70-80 most of the time 18hrs a day

    also no radio (lost that in  KS, turned out to just be a sticky of off switch), lost brakes somewhere in Arkansas (my bad after not properly tighten up brake line fitting after replacing a rear brake slave), timing chain guide lasted till the return trip in TN, did not even know it and continued on home. Next up is the tail of the dragon, then the big'un, Alaska via the ALCAN hiway.

    I thing the only real issue for making long trips is to replace that guide if it looks worn at all.

    I think the guide failing was a outlier..I think they robust enough unless it been in there since new. If that’s the case maybe replace. Cars are like planes, they want to be driven. The less they’re driven the less reliable they become.

    Driving in AZ without Air Conditioning is a no-go. Alabama humidity would suck too. Not sure if Cliff has AC. If we keep the pressure on him maybe we can get him to ditch the Camry for a weekend.

    I’m probably gonna take a load of crap because I’m going to try to get my car there but it’s going to be a stretch. I might make it from a mechanical perspective but the body and interior probably won’t be complete.

    I sold my current house last week and have it’s closing is on 15 Jun. The new house should be complete by them and then the Z arrives from my parents barn and the race is on to get her ready for a 11 hr drove to Nashville. It’s has AC, doubt it works but another thing to get sorted out before ZCon.

     

     

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    I don't think we (humans) will be traveling anytime soon.

    People continue to be positive for months  and possibly permanently (like AIDS).  They do not seem to shake the disease (read link below).  If such a person was sitting beside you on a plane.... tag! you got it.

    We will not get out of this unless a vaccine is found, and that may be a year or more. Also we may need to permanently isolate people with or, who had the virus.

    This is not the flu but airborne aids-like communicable disease that causes the blood in your lungs to clot and kill you.

     

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/covid-19-china-recovered-patients-continue-to-test-positive-for-virus-months-after-contraction

     

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    3 hours ago, Av8ferg said:

    I bet Dave WM is older than you and he drove his Z from Orlando to Pikes Peak and back with a damaged timing chain guide. If you show up in a Camry you will have to hand over your man-card immediately before you can drink a beer.


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    That Camry was great in Memphis.  It's stealthiness worked very well for our craft beer tour downtown.  Ask our buddy.

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    I don't think we (humans) will be traveling anytime soon.
    People continue to be positive for months  and possibly permanently (like AIDS).  They do not seem to shake the disease (read link below).  If such a person was sitting beside you on a plane.... tag! you got it.
    We will not get out of this unless and vaccine is found and that may be a year or more. Also we may need to permanently isolate people with or had the virus.
    This is not the flu but airborne aids-like communicable disease that causes the blood in your lungs to clot.
     
    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/covid-19-china-recovered-patients-continue-to-test-positive-for-virus-months-after-contraction
     

    Well, I hope this isn’t the case but “hope” has never been a course of action that produces results.
    Life is beginning to return to more normal where I live. People have come to the conclusion, right or wrong that this “destroy the economy” cure is worse than the disease. We’ve had 3 deaths in my county and all were in their late 70’s and 80’s and had other morbidity issues. We had 24 cases total and everyone else but 4 have recovered completely. People’s lives are at risk from loss of income. We had 9 beach drownings last year, 3x Covid-19 deaths and we didn’t close the city and county and people didn’t loose their jobs and businesses. People are demanding the state open back up. Sorry, this post is probably for the Covid-19 thread which I have stopped following.
    How many lives is our $20 Billion economy worth? It’s a morbid thought but it’s real. I’ve done several aviation mishap investigations and the airlines put a $$ on you’re life. Most deaths in airline accidents are due to smoke inhalation but to put non-toxic materials in the interior of passenger jets is too expensive. They chose to spend less knowing it will mean more lost lives.
    I’m an optimist and I’m planning for success. Humanity can do incredible things when pushed to the brink. A breakthrough is possible.
    I’m plan on going to ZCon until we are closer to Sept.



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    7 hours ago, siteunseen said:

    That Camry was great in Memphis.  It's stealthiness worked very well for our craft beer tour downtown.  Ask our buddy.

    Yeah, I gotta admit... It wasn't as classy, but it sure blended in.    LOL   It's like my daily driver... I want it to be invisible.

    You remember that one shaky looking neighborhood when we ended up startling the guy in the brewery?

    Him, clearly startled - "Woah! Uhhh... Can I help you?"
    Us, being a tasting flight up already - "We we're looking for beer."
    Him (thankfully) amused - "Uhhh, OK. We got lots of that, but we don't sell it here."

    Hahaha!!! We could have easily ended up in a cell for that one! I think the only thing that saved us was your trustworthy face!     ROFL

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    Yeah, I gotta admit... It wasn't as classy, but it sure blended in.    LOL   It's like my daily driver... I want it to be invisible.
    You remember that one shaky looking neighborhood when we ended up startling the guy in the brewery?
    Him, clearly startled - "Woah! Uhhh... Can I help you?"
    Us, being a tasting flight up already - "We we're looking for beer."
    Him (thankfully) amused - "Uhhh, OK. We got lots of that, but we don't sell it here."
    Hahaha!!! We could have easily ended up in a cell for that one! I think the only thing that saved us was your trustworthy face!     ROFL

    Funny story Bruce, it’s hard to find a good part of town there. When the sun goes down it’s like the movie “I am Legend” I get it...I spend more time than I want in Memphis. It’s a shady place. I have a car there I bought when I started working from there. It’s parked in the company parking lot at the airport. It’s a 2002 Nissan Xterra. Its manual transmission and I searched for that for one reason other than later Nissan’s builds some of the worst automatic transmissions and that was theft. I read that only 18% of Americans can drive a manual and most are over 40 yrs old. That means at minimum about 4/5 criminals wanting to steal my car will walk past mine. Car theft is very high in Memphis. Memphis had 4,450 car thefts in a single year.
    Cliff, Bruce has both a kill switch and a steering wheel lock bar. He had a bad cam so they wouldn’t have gotten far for too long....hehe!
    Here’s my Memphis bomber. She’s been a good car. Has a persistent ABS and Airbag light that I’ve chosen to ignore. 6cdec79efc85cd7d9e27552fd8d2d2d1.jpg597da3d94d5996518df13c8eca9554e5.jpg



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    18 hours ago, Captain Obvious said:

    Yeah, I gotta admit... It wasn't as classy, but it sure blended in.    LOL   It's like my daily driver... I want it to be invisible.

    You remember that one shaky looking neighborhood when we ended up startling the guy in the brewery?

    Him, clearly startled - "Woah! Uhhh... Can I help you?"
    Us, being a tasting flight up already - "We we're looking for beer."
    Him (thankfully) amused - "Uhhh, OK. We got lots of that, but we don't sell it here."

    Hahaha!!! We could have easily ended up in a cell for that one! I think the only thing that saved us was your trustworthy face!     ROFL

    I remember it like it was yesterday. We went to the right address of the brewery but no taps. The guy had reddish brown hair and Carhart overalls on. He was stirring a big ole pot of something when we came in the loading dock's door. Walked by a forklift and a dumpster up a few steps and into the brewery. Isn't he the one that gave us those wooden tokens for free beer at their tap house/bar? where we sat at a table with a bunch of other folks? I remember the super sweet good looking girl that took your printed list and told us "go here and here...".

    My favorite was the one where you and I were the only ones there yet and they brought out those sampler planks, you knew the name but I'd never seen that before. Great memories Sir!

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    Wow. I'm impressed! Mind like a steel trap!

    Yes, he's the guy who gave us drink tokens. I was just happy he didn't call the cops on us! I bet he locked that door after we left! Haha!!  The planks hold "flights", or "tasting flights". And yes, I remember that map. Showed it to her and she's like "Wait... The only thing on here is directions to beer?" 

    You remember at one of the other stops on our tour... The two guys who were reluctant to give us a recommendation for BBQ? You remember the detail behind that?

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    16 hours ago, Captain Obvious said:

    You remember at one of the other stops on our tour... The two guys who were reluctant to give us a recommendation for BBQ? You remember the detail behind that?

    Sort of but a bit fuzzy from all the "flights".  There's only a few ways of thinking when it comes to the Q in my opinion.  Pulled or chopped, white sauce or red and low and slow vs over an open flame.

    Honestly I was thinking it was two guys at the table with that girl?  Do tell, I'm curious now.  My steel trap didn't hold that conversation too well.

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    I don't remember the minute details... Clearly from your highly detailed recollection of the other place, that's what I had you for.

    Something about the two guys were competing in the annual BBQ competition and were thinking they might win? Placed high previous year and thought they might take first place that year? They didn't want to recommend any Q from any of their competitors. They were not in the restaurant biz... One was a lawyer and the other was an a software guy or something? I bet they opened a BBQ joint after we met them.

    Any of that ringing any bells?

    Oh yeah, and their female companions were attractive. That's probably why you don't remember shitte.   ROFL

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    Anyone heard an update or I guess a down-gate on this zcon? I don't think it looks too promising. Maybe we all rent RVs and stay in our own bubbles? 

    I remember worrying about bed bugs at hotels a year ago. LOL

     

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    ZCON is still a go as far as I know.  Chris Karl posted a few times on Facebook this past weekend when he and some of his ZCON team were in Nashville locking things down.  Not exactly sure how they are going to deal with the big crowds, especially at the opening and closing banquets, but I understand they have a plan.

    If I hear anything else I'll try and provide an update here.

    Mike.

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    As Mike said, this past weekend was a scouting trip in Nashville for the ZCON organizers. ZCON is still happening, but it will be a little different from past years. The honored guests from Japan will not be in attendance, but Pete Brock & John Morton will be in attendance. Chris Karl from the ZCCA was making arrangements on Sunday for a car to put in the lobby of the hotel. (I happened to hear part of the phone call.)

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    In case you're not on the ZCON mailing list, this was sent out last month: https://mailchi.mp/b1cdfc56ed8a/zcon-2020-covid-19-update?e=aca997d0bb

    Don't forget that Nissan will have a special presentation at ZCON. Guess what that is. Usually attending ZCON also locks you into employee pricing on a new Nissan until the end of the calendar year, too.

     

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    It was with sad reluctance that I made the decision to cancel my ZCON hotel reservation last week. TN is one of the states seeing a marked increase in COVID-19 cases and Nashville has been particularly noted on some newscasts. This situation is not going to magically disappear in the next 6 weeks and I am very much in the susceptible age group. Even if I went to the event, I would then have to quarantine myself away from my home for a couple of weeks to ensure I did not bring the virus home to my wife who has an autoimmune condition.

    As an original owner, this 50th anniversary meeting holds a lot of significance to me but I cannot allow that to seriously jeopardize my health and that of my family. I will dearly miss meeting up with old friends and getting introduced to new ones from this great site. For those of you who move forward with plans to attend ZCON, I pray that you remain safe. I will have to "enjoy" the event vicariously thru your reports and photos.

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    Makes a lot of sense Jim.  Totally understandable.   I too have been coming to the same conclusion.  Will be discussing it when the other Jim in Bentonville returns from his latest work adventure.

    Us Jim's need to stick together.

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    19 hours ago, jfa.series1 said:

    It was with sad reluctance that I made the decision to cancel my ZCON hotel reservation last week. TN is one of the states seeing a marked increase in COVID-19 cases and Nashville has been particularly noted on some newscasts. This situation is not going to magically disappear in the next 6 weeks and I am very much in the susceptible age group. Even if I went to the event, I would then have to quarantine myself away from my home for a couple of weeks to ensure I did not bring the virus home to my wife who has an autoimmune condition.

    As an original owner, this 50th anniversary meeting holds a lot of significance to me but I cannot allow that to seriously jeopardize my health and that of my family. I will dearly miss meeting up with old friends and getting introduced to new ones from this great site. For those of you who move forward with plans to attend ZCON, I pray that you remain safe. I will have to "enjoy" the event vicariously thru your reports and photos.

    Yup... you gotta know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em.

    Good decision!

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    It's so close to me and I am torn as whether or not to go, even if not for the whole week.  I don't consider that my Z is competition for trophies so that part doesn't even matter, but missing the face to face with everyone is a let down for me personally.  I would still like to go and hope to find a way.   Like most of you I have literally bled for my Z,  but I'm not ready to give up breathing for it or spreading that chance to my family.   I hope conditions change for the better between now and then.

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    I agree. I miss the face to face catch up time!

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