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On 3/17/2018 at 5:32 PM, nix240z said:

I have been in contact with the seller and he said he truly  did not know that they where reproduction when he was selling the hubcaps and was thankful that it was brought to his attention by people contacting him.

 

I don't have a problem with reproductions . 

Not so sure people aren't going a little too far here.  The guy is not selling them as OEM.

Edit - the price alone is offensive though.  It's got URGELIS all over it.

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9 hours ago, Zed Head said:

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Interestingly, the ad states that they are for "off road use only" and that he's not responsible for any injuries as a result of use.  I would hope potential buyers are smart enough to realize they're dealing with a wonky seller and avoid.

Dennis

 

 

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 The description implies that they don't stay on and he doesn't want to be liable for the hubcaps striking other vehicles or they're not for human consumption. Hubcaps on an off-road? Z?

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3 minutes ago, Mark Maras said:

 Hubcaps on an off-road? Z?

Of course.  Drivers want to dress up their entries in the East African Safari Rally.  And what better way than to add a matched set of off road use only,  scratched, non-OEM, as-is, no rust, 1970 Datsun Z hubcaps?  I wonder if the seller has a release from liability form for buyers to sign in case of injury.

Dennis

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If Frank Monise was 20 when he started the business in 1949, he'd be 89 now.  I'm thinking that his grandson Greg is probably the thief and Frank doesn't know.  Frank Jr might know though.  And they're all down there around Rancho Cucamonga.  Seems like a thieves den for Datsun parts.  People just don't realize that everything we do is on the internet.  And they put it out there, with their stories of "legendary and famous".  Doubt that the fame was for gouging customers and selling fake parts.

Stanceworks has promoted thieves before, there was a guy, Senza Pari, who ripped off many people.  Wasn't there a guy from the Vintage Racing League onhere a while ago.  Now they're sullied. 

Frank probably started out as an honorable guy.  Nepotism does something to people.

I'm a little over the top here, but all of this stealing and lying that's on the news every day is getting to me.

http://www.thevrl.com/profile/GregMonise

http://www.stanceworks.com/2016/05/frank-monise-motors-mating-power-precision-and-perfection/

https://www.mgexp.com/member/eprodb

http://www.frankmonisemotors.com/

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6 hours ago, psdenno said:

Of course.  Drivers want to dress up their entries in the East African Safari Rally.  And what better way than to add a matched set of off road use only,  scratched, non-OEM, as-is, no rust, 1970 Datsun Z hubcaps?  I wonder if the seller has a release from liability form for buyers to sign in case of injury.

Dennis

 

 

Probably for pedestrian safety. They probably fall off and can injure people due to poor fit or metal fatigue. 

Most Chinese fake parts sort of look like the original but function and quality are never the goals of a fake part.

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Edit - my mistake.  He says 2 in the description.  $300 / cap. (So how many is he selling?  Doesn't say. ) Two of the pictures look almost exactly the same, like he moved it one inch for the next shot.  Three shade pictures and one in the sun.  Hiding the backs now.  Still 100% positive feedback.  $600 and he won't even pay for shipping.

Anybody positive who this guy is yet?

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Guys, 

I've been looking for a set of the D hubcaps for my '71 240Z. A guy in the San Francisco area has some for sale and has asked me to make an offer. I have attached the pictures that he emailed me. This set doesn't look quite right to me. What are your thoughts? 

Thanks,

Steve

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Thanks Steve , the pictures were taken almost ten years ago, time flies .

The caps which you are thinking about to obtain look original , I hope you will have originals for your car .

By the way , I couldn’t stop myself driving with the old Super speed radial -20 , but not with the early less tab ( the less tab caps were given from Mr. Matsuo , so display only! ) One day I had a flat tyre one of the rear tyre ! That was  a few months after I drove the tyre .I think  ARMOR ALL was not good for the old rubber . I was thinking it was good for keeping the surface in nice condition and protect the rubber from the sun shine. But the results was not what I expected, maybe the liquid sink into the rubber ‘s tiny tiny cracks then it makes the rubber break apart easily. 
 

If I had not put ARMOR ALL on the tyre I would have a little more longer life on the old tyre , would not have I ?
Anyway no one seems to ride on a 40 years old tyre , so I don’t need to think about it . I never ever do it again !!

Kats

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Hi Kats, 

Sorry to hear about he flat tyre.  Yes, 40 year old tyres can certainly be risky to drive on,  I'm kind of surprised that only one tyre went flat!

I asked the seller of the D caps to send me a couple of overhead pictures of the backsides and I have attached. Do these look correct to you? 

Thanks,

Steve

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Armorall has silicone in it.  Don't use silicone on rubber!

The caps look great to me.  They have an inked number on them.  I doubt someone would go to all the trouble for a set of repros?  How much are these things worth?

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11 minutes ago, 26th-Z said:

Armorall has silicone in it.  Don't use silicone on rubber!

The caps look great to me.  They have an inked number on them.  I doubt someone would go to all the trouble for a set of repros?  How much are these things worth?

Buyer beware.

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I have a couple I believe are original, The have the punched valve stem hole like Kats made note of. A makers country of orgin stamping on the side IKI MADE IN JAPAN. Inked markings inside.

They are rough I know......

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18 hours ago, 240260280 said:

Are they claimed to be original or reproductions?

Perhaps ask for a higher resolution photo of this area and we can tell.  The photos above are too small to see details.

It was like pulling teeth to get the seller to send me these last 3 pictures that are just a little more closer up. I don't see the "IKI Made In Japan" stamped anywhere that Terrapin Z mentioned. The seller also told me that the set of 4 are original. What do you think of these last 3 pictures?  

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The edge fingers at the hole are not like any of the original pictures I have but they do closely match the early poor-quality fakes from 2 years ago but they better match Terrapin originals.

I think they are real or a very good reproduction.

The  IKI stamp and  Made in Japan require further exploration.  I'll check mine in the garage and get back.

 

 

 

 

 

Circa 1970 version 1

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Circa 1970 version 2

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