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Out of curiosity, has anyone here ever found or acquired a downloadable version of the 1970 FSM?  The '71 manual is widely available (albeit not a very good-quality scan and pretty fuzzy in places) and is perhaps identical in content, but I've yet to see the 1970 version anywhere.

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The 1970 FSM is in our downloads area, uploaded by @Blue.  Only problem is that it is very low res.

If you are looking for a certain page or small section I could make better quality scans from my hard copy.

Hope this helps.

Mike

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Thanks, Mike.  I already have this and thought it to be the 1971 FSM.  Hard to tell because the person who scanned it didn't scan the cover.  Is this, in fact, the first Z FSM, issued for the 70 Z and then held over as also applicable to the 71?  Or is it the 71 FSM, with a scanned version of the 70 FSM still n/available?

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There's something on eBay that might be worth a shot.  $11.  Who knows.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/datsun-240z-manual

Here's some Carl Beck comments but they're a bit confusing.  Literally, they say that 70 was two volumes, 71 was one volume, and 72 was two volumes then one.  Not sure that's what he meant though.  Also, it looks like the front cover doesn't have a year on it anyway.

http://zhome.com/ZCMnL/Books/FactoryManuals.html

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I have two printings of the 1970 service manuals.  They are two volumes.  One is devoted to chassis and body.  The other L20A, and L24 series engine.  They are punched for a three-ringed binder and the cover paper is pebble textured.  The Chassis and Body volume is yellow and the Engine volume is green.  One printing (010240) is issue date 1 November 1969 and the other (020030) is issue date 15 August 1970.  Both sets are printed in Japan publication No. SM0E-0S30G0.

I also have a single volume 1970 manual.  It is yellow, smooth texture covers, and not punched for a binder.  It is on the shelf at the shop however, and I don't have publication numbers for it.  I used to have the 1971 manual illustrated on Beck's site.  Kind of an orange color.  I sold it a long time ago.

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10 hours ago, Zed Head said:

There's something on eBay that might be worth a shot.  $11.  Who knows.

Thanks.  I had a look and discovered that this seller is offering CD's of the manual, rather than print copies (I should have known, given the asking price).

 

10 hours ago, Zed Head said:

Here's some Carl Beck comments but they're a bit confusing.

They're both informative and confusing, aren't they?

I can certainly see the incentive for a service department wanting separate volumes.  I single-bound Body/Chassis + Engine manual must have weighed 5 pounds!  Throw in the Electrical/Dash/Instruments supplement and you've got a substantial amount of paper on your hands.

18 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

If you are looking for a certain page or small section I could make better quality scans from my hard copy.

Thanks for the offer.  I get by with my downloaded 'Blue' version.  Where a photo is too fuzzy to make out details, I find that in many cases the very same photo or diagram appears in the '72 FSM.  I've got the British Autopress and Haynes manuals for backup.   My reason for bringing up the subject is just that the 'collector' in me has always wondered why a '1970' FSM has never seemed to be available.

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37 minutes ago, 26th-Z said:

I have two printings of the 1970 service manuals.  They are two volumes.  One is devoted to chassis and body.  The other L20A, and L24 series engine.  They are punched for a three-ringed binder and the cover paper is pebble textured.  The Chassis and Body volume is yellow and the Engine volume is green.  One printing (010240) is issue date 1 November 1969 and the other (020030) is issue date 15 August 1970.  Both sets are printed in Japan publication No. SM0E-0S30G0.

I also have a single volume 1970 manual.  It is yellow, smooth texture covers, and not punched for a binder.  It is on the shelf at the shop however, and I don't have publication numbers for it.  I used to have the 1971 manual illustrated on Beck's site.  Kind of an orange color.  I sold it a long time ago.

So now we have the answer!  Thanks for the details, 26th-Z.  If you have extra time on your hands, post a photo.  I'd love to see this manual, just for the sake of posterity.

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4 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

I have two printings of the 1970 service manuals.  They are two volumes.  One is devoted to chassis and body.  The other L20A, and L24 series engine.  They are punched for a three-ringed binder and the cover paper is pebble textured.  The Chassis and Body volume is yellow and the Engine volume is green.  One printing (010240) is issue date 1 November 1969 and the other (020030) is issue date 15 August 1970.  Both sets are printed in Japan publication No. SM0E-0S30G0.

I also have a single volume 1970 manual.  It is yellow, smooth texture covers, and not punched for a binder.  It is on the shelf at the shop however, and I don't have publication numbers for it.  I used to have the 1971 manual illustrated on Beck's site.  Kind of an orange color.  I sold it a long time ago.

Just wondering if you have noticed any/many differences between the 1NOV69 and 15AUG70 printings?

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Hi, I think there will be no differences between early and 1971. Just picture quality of 1969 is better than 1971 , 

And just for your interest, Flat rate schedule and Collision estimate are attached. 

Kats

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19 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

over the next few weeks I will create a higher res copy to upload for those who are interested.

Thanks, CanTechZ.  That scan quality is excellent.  So much better than the version that's currently available.  If you're able to find the time to scan and upload the entire manual, all of us CZCC members will be in your debt.

BTW, how did you acquire your copy?  e-Bay?  Dealership connections?

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5 hours ago, kats said:

Hi, I think there will be no differences between early and 1971. Just picture quality of 1969 is better than 1971 , 

And just for your interest, Flat rate schedule and Collision estimate are attached. 

Kats

Thanks, Kats.  Excellent photos.  Also interesting to see the flat-rate and collision-estimate publications. 

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On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 3:31 AM, Namerow said:

Thanks, CanTechZ.  That scan quality is excellent.  So much better than the version that's currently available.  If you're able to find the time to scan and upload the entire manual, all of us CZCC members will be in your debt.

BTW, how did you acquire your copy?  e-Bay?  Dealership connections?

No problem, I will post here when it is available for download. Sadly it will be "Body & Chassis" only as I don't have a copy of the "Engine" volume.

I picked the FSM locally from a craigslist ad a couple of years ago.  It was advertised as a two volume 1972 set but when I checked with the seller he realized that it was actually two copies of the Body & Chassis Manual, one 1972 and one 1970 but no engine manual, so I'm still on the look out for a 1970 engine FSM volume. The good thing was I got both copies for $30 and he threw in a copy of "How to modify Datsun engines & chassis 510 610 240Z" by Bill Fisher and Bob Waar printed in 1973. Lots of great historical reading.

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18 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

Not that I remember although I have never compared them page by page.

Thanks 26th-z

 

10 hours ago, kats said:

Hi, I think there will be no differences between early and 1971. Just picture quality of 1969 is better than 1971 , 

And just for your interest, Flat rate schedule and Collision estimate are attached. 

Kats

 

 

 

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Thanks for posting this Kats, earlier this year I scanned and uploaded the Datsun 240z -260z section of the 1975 Mitchell Foreign Car Collision Estimator Guide, it's in the Service Documents category in Downloads here.  I wonder if the estimating times Mitchell used came from the Nissan collision estimating sheets like you have posted?

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7 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

Just uploaded for those who might be interested.

Mike

This is great Mike, best quality scan I've seen.  Thank you!

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I agree. The quality of the wiring diagram is better than in my printed copies of the 72, 73, and 74 FSMs.

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Thanks @jwtaylor and @SteveJ for the feedback.  I played around with the scan settings looking for a balance between file size and quality.

I have noticed that I made mistakes in the file names of the FE and WT sections. Not a big problem as they can just be renamed after unzipping. I checked to see if I can replace the zip file in the downloads area but didn't see an option, maybe @Mike could chime in and let me know if this is possible.

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3 hours ago, CanTechZ said:

Thanks @jwtaylor and @SteveJ for the feedback.  I played around with the scan settings looking for a balance between file size and quality.

I have noticed that I made mistakes in the file names of the FE and WT sections. Not a big problem as they can just be renamed after unzipping. I checked to see if I can replace the zip file in the downloads area but didn't see an option, maybe @Mike could chime in and let me know if this is possible.

Hey, just saw this today. You should have a "file options" drop down when you open the file in our downloads area. There should be an option to edit the files in there. Let me know if you need help. 

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1 hour ago, Mike said:

Hey, just saw this today. You should have a "file options" drop down when you open the file in our downloads area. There should be an option to edit the files in there. Let me know if you need help. 

Thanks Mike.  I fixed the file names but when I went to upload a new zip file I found that my WinZip license just expired so I had to upload the individual .pdf chapter files instead.

At least this way is better for mobile device users.

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On ‎11‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 9:23 AM, Namerow said:

Out of curiosity, has anyone here ever found or acquired a downloadable version of the 1970 FSM?  The '71 manual is widely available (albeit not a very good-quality scan and pretty fuzzy in places) and is perhaps identical in content, but I've yet to see the 1970 version anywhere.

Not actually downloadable due to copyrights but I purchased to 1970 FSM & S30 Parts catalogs from Courtesy Nissan back in '05.  The FSM CD looks to be a scanned copy of the 1970 FSM created for the Nissan Vintage Z Program from 1997.  The back cover image on the CD has a Issued Date of March, 1997 (010240), the number in brackets is the same as the 1st November 1969 printing of the 1970 FSM Body & Chassis Volume.  The quality of the scans is not that great but the pdf's are searchable and have links from the table of contents.  Anyone else have these, and what are your thoughts.

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