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Springs....Eibach oor Tokiko or what?

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The time has come for me to replace my springs. MSA only has the progressive rate Eibach speings.

These sound good but I have seen some threads that note problems with these progressive springs. Both ride height and that the top coils fully compress at rest...so why have them?

Any info or feedback you may have will be welcome.

Thanks

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I guess it depends on what you are looking for in a spring. I had the Tokico’s on my yellow Z and they just about rattled my teeth loose, too stiff for daily driving. I switched over to the Eibach’s and really like those. I did cut 1.5 coils from the front springs to get the car to sit level. I am still running the Tokico 5 way adjustable at all 4 corners, with at the number 2 setting..

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Same here. Had to cut over 1 coil from the Eibach's to get her to sit level, but the springs have a good feel. Just don't go with the Tokico Blue shocks. While not bad, I've found them a be a bit too harsh for daily / weekend driving.

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i went with the eibachs and blue tokico's. on my 72 240

I am happy with the ride and handling improvements.

one thing however, I found also that the ride height in the rear was a little lower than the front.

Personally, i kinda like that look. with the right pair of rims and rubber I find it gives the car a good stable appearance.

just recently, i added a thicker front and new rear sway bar. It seems to have helped with the ride height a little bit.

handles way better now also.

just my .02$

i would recommend the eibachs and blue tokico's without hesitation.

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I have the popular MSA Eibach-Tokiko combination installed. The car sits slightly lower, and sits evenly front-to-rear. The ride is slightly stiffer, as expected, but I am used to that, as I used to spend hours on my bike, with it's 180 PSI tyres and stiff steel frame. You just gotta remember that the car will shake more, so pick your roads carefully, and try not to keep anything that's vibration-senstive on the dash, or stuck to the windscreen.

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I was using Tokiko Illuminas and Tokiko springs last year on my 1970 and found it a bit jarring but the PO had removed the bump stops so maybe that was the problem. Over the winter I installed bump stops and Eibach springs, I haven't driven an inch yet due to a problem I hope to have resolved soon but with the Eibach springs the front does sit an inch higher than the back, although the whole car does sit much lower than stock.

I hope I won't have to cut the front springs as the travel between the top of the shock and bottom of the bump stop is only 1.75"

Pacemakr, so you have the blues, one of these days when we get both of our cars together maybe we can trade rides and then post a write up on the differences between them?

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Finally got 100 miles on the new suspension system and the heights have evened out, 3 season old Tokiko Illumina shocks,

New Eibach springs and all other wearable suspension parts are also new. Measuring from the top of the wheel arch my heights are,

driver front - 26.125"

driver rear - 26"

passenger front - 26.250"

passenger rear - 25.5"

So my "1inch taller in the front" isn't so cut and dry as it was. The passenger rear has me a little concerned.

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What wheel/tire combos are people with Tokico springs/struts running? I'd prefer to avoid tire rub in the rear, so any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks.

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16X7" Wheels with 205 55 16" tires. I love the Eibachs with either Tokico Blues or Illuminas ( I have both and would recommend either).

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16X7" Wheels with 205 55 16" tires. I love the Eibachs with either Tokico Blues or Illuminas ( I have both and would recommend either).

Does that combo work without trimming the stock front valence, i.e. there is no rubbing with the steering at full lock?

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Leon......It did on the 71, I had to adjust the front valence on the 72. If you loosen up all the hardware, you can actually move the valence forward enough for clearance. I think the 225 50 16's fill the wells the best, but require substancial tweeking for everything to work without rubbing.

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Leon......It did on the 71, I had to adjust the front valence on the 72. If you loosen up all the hardware, you can actually move the valence forward enough for clearance. I think the 225 50 16's fill the wells the best, but require substancial tweeking for everything to work without rubbing.

Thanks for the feedback! Good to know about adjusting the front valence.

I really like the fit of 225/50-16s but as you said, it'll require some altering to get those to work with the stock front valence. I have no issues on one Z which has a Xenon air dam but I want to run the stock valence with a lip on the other car. Looks like I may have to go down in size for my next set...

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I tried to order a set of Tokico Illuminas this week from MSA and unfortunately they are out of stock. Something to do with Tokico losing their distributor in North America. Anyone know where these are in stock?

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Running Tokico springs and Blues on my 78 with 245/45/17 Eagle GT's. I had to trim the MSA air dam for clearance but I think that is pretty common anyway. The wheels are the Konig Imagine with the opal finish that MSA was selling. The ride is a little stiff, but I think that has a much to do with the sidewall on the tire as the suspension.

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I tried to order a set of Tokico Illuminas this week from MSA and unfortunately they are out of stock. Something to do with Tokico losing their distributor in North America. Anyone know where these are in stock?

I am just about ready to order the Illuminas. Not good news, hopefully they figured something out soon.

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BlackDragon shows them available at $169.95 or maybe try Spruell Racing in Atlanta.BD phone is 1 888 789 3746.

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Here is that 260z I mentioned:

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Nice, is that Clive's car? Triple Webers, Megajolt, and carbon fiber air horns?

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