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what z car do you think would out run what mustang? Whenever i see any mustang i never fail to think that my zx would smoke it no problem. and i often see videos online that contain a z car smoking mustangs. you guys got any input on this?:cool:

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I hope you're not talking about a 2011 Mustang GT. It would run away and hide from your ZX. It has 412 hp. My 2005 GTO is fairly modded and those new Mustangs still give me a tough time. And the Shelby GY500 will outrun me but with 540 hp, it should. Ford really outdid themselves this time.......

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Just google the power to weight ratios of the cars of interest, and you get a pretty decent idea of their "quickness". Next question is, in a straight line, or on a road course?

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also i don think that power to weight ratio would be an accurate way to tell what vehicle would out perform the other due to the design and quality of the engine and the design and areo dynamics of the car. not to mention the way the car is put together.

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I'd love to get my hands on a newer Roush Mustang. the 427R. or the Stage 3 set-up.

But honestly though, Your ZX won't stand a chance against the Supercharged Mustangs. Sorry. Though you might have fun going against their V6's. Our Power to weight is a little better and it's funny as hell when you pull away from them and the look on their face as you do it.

I too am cocky, until I'm proved wrong. it happens. Not often, but it happens.

Dave

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Seriously...look at even the 2011 base V6 Mustang...0-60 in 5.1 sec...That is what 305HP and a 7K redline will get you...and 30 plus MPG.

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Any new Mustang is going to smoke your ZX (assuming it is as stock as it looks in your avatar). If it doesn't, the other guy didn't know you were racing him. This is true on a road course also. Your ZX would have been faster than my first car, a 79 Mustang with the 2.3L Pinto motor.

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Seriously...look at even the 2011 base V6, Mustang...0-60 in 5.1 sec...That is what 305HP and a 7K redline will get you...and 30 plus MPG.

Yea, after 25 years of making fun of Honda's V-Tech they've finally put it in their engines.

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also i don think that power to weight ratio would be an accurate way to tell what vehicle would out perform the other due to the design and quality of the engine and the design and areo dynamics of the car. not to mention the way the car is put together.
Power to weight ratio does pretty much determine performance. The other things you mention? The new Mustang has your car beat in all of them. Cocky is one thing but in this case I'm afraid you will have to face reality.;)

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There is a serious need to define the exact perimeters of your question.

Are you talking stock Z/Mustang? Which yr or yrs? Modified or not?

There are heavily modified Z with more than 400-500HP and upgraded suspensions that would compete with newer Mustangs I would imagine.

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Buddy of mine had an inline 6 Chevy Nova, that he thought was "the Shiznit" until I wiped the expression off his face with my pretty damn stock Z (years ago, before the mods)

The older V6 that came in the Mustang 2's (my first car was a 75') was nothing compared to our inline 6's. I could eat those things all day long. But the newer 305hp V6's are more than a contendor, they wup some serious butt. Even with it being a heavier car. Yet, If I had 305hp in my 70', that Mustang would have a challenge on it's hand, as mine is obviously lighter. Power to weight is a major factor in that race.

Either way, the ZX is a good car but Heavier than the earlier Z's, so I would likely beat your ZX as well. But if they were identical weight and power, then it would be a "Drivers Race" Where Reaction time and shift points come in to play.

So like GNOSEZ said, definition of each car is important. I understand your quarry, or question as it pertains to a thought, that I'm sure most of us have had "Can beat this guy" and "Bet I could woop that car, like right now"

Good question but needs perameters.

Dave

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also i don think that power to weight ratio would be an accurate way to tell what vehicle would out perform the other

Quite the contrary. Power to weight ratio is EXACTLY the point. Perfect example of that is the fact that the 1970 240Z will outrun your ZX. Read the road test reports.

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Quite the contrary. Power to weight ratio is EXACTLY the point. Perfect example of that is the fact that the 1970 240Z will outrun your ZX. Read the road test reports.

Yes. Case in point, drag racing calculators. Plug in weight and power and they can give you a pretty accurate 1/4 mile time.

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html

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I think the new 370 coupe will give new GT Mustang a run. Sorry but, no chance in an 80's ZX (still nice looking car though).
The 5.0 is nearly a full second quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 370Z Nismo. Don't know how they'd compare on a road course though. I've not run up against a 370Z yet that could out accelerate my 2005 GTO either.

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The new Mustang was .1 sec slower than a BMW M3 on Streets of Willow which is a very tight road course, almost like a very big autox. The new Mustang is no joke. I don't know how the 370Z would fare on that course, but I wouldn't assume that it would be as fast.

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Yes. Case in point, drag racing calculators. Plug in weight and power and they can give you a pretty accurate 1/4 mile time.

http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html

According to that, my stock 280ZX-T will do a 14.6 quarter mile. I'll take that! (most magazines have it at 15.0- 15.5). The calculator must not take into account turbo lag.

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i was not just talking about my zx. i was talking about any model z.
You weren't?:)
Whenever i see any mustang i never fail to think that my zx would smoke it no problem.

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According to that, my stock 280ZX-T will do a 14.6 quarter mile. I'll take that! (most magazines have it at 15.0- 15.5). The calculator must not take into account turbo lag.

Trap speed is more accurate. ET is pretty hugely affected by traction.

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The 5.0 is nearly a full second quicker in the 1/4 mile than the 370Z Nismo. Don't know how they'd compare on a road course though. I've not run up against a 370Z yet that could out accelerate my 2005 GTO either.

Car and Driver took care of the road course comparison. For the past few years, they go to VIR for their Lightning Lap comparison. They used up the brakes in a 370Z and stuffed it. They did a post-mortem on the the brakes after that. The Mustang GT was over 3 seconds faster despite the solid rear axle.

Of course, this is done at only one road course. YMMV.

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sblake01 the question was "any z vs mustang" when i was talking about my zx i was sharing one of my thoughts as an example of what i thought. i see you on the forums all the time and you are always a smart a$$.

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According to the Calculator, my 70' is a over a half second faster than a Turbo L6 in a ZX?? I'm around 170+ HP in a 2450 lb car. am I wrong on my Curb weight?

I guess I need to drop some cash on a Dyno test and weigh the car as is. I trust the facts, in black and white. (or a colored graph LOL )

Dave

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Probably pretty close. You have a 70 which is lighter, but you also have R200 with LSD which adds weight. I know mine with a full carpet kit, R200 and Autopower roll bar weighed 2350 with 1/2 tank and nobody in it. I'd suspect yours is probably right around 2300. So yeah, that sounds about right.

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