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I called MSA today for a weatherstrip kit and was told they have been out since early this year and won't have any until early next year. Precision (the company that makes them) damaged the molds and cannot produce them right now.

I have heard that the Black Dragon kit is not quite as good so I am reluctant to purchase it. Any other suggestions for vendors that will be equal in quality, fit and comparable in price?

TIA,

John

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I got the black dragon kit for my Modified Z. Only thing I wasn't happy with was the door seals. Very difficult to close the doors..but then again, no exhaust smell either.

Oh, forgot to say I hate installing weatherstripping. Easiest thing to do was the front and rear glass. The rest was a pain. I will use the masking tape trick next time as mentioned on other thread.

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Thanks for the quick reply. Did you install the trim in the front and back seals? I thought I read recently that it was more difficult with the BD kit. I also read that the door seals are tight. I agree, might not be a bad thing.

I was told that Precision makes both MSA and BD kits. The difference being that MSA has (had) their own molds and BD uses the Precision's generic molds.

John

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I was told the BD(from their customer service) that they don't use precision. Then again-she wouldn't tell me who made their kits. I don't have any experience with the BD weatherstrip except fron t windshield weatherstrip and it looked like a nice piece.

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Did you install the trim in the front and back seals? I thought I read recently that it was more difficult with the BD kit. I also read that the door seals are tight.

John

Not sure what you mean by front and back seals, but I installed just about everything. The BD kit comes with Hood/cowl rubber, door lower rubber strip, single piece rubber for each door frame (Very thick, pain to install and hard to close door), front and rear windshield rubber, Quarter window rubber (2 pieces each), both seals for rear hatch,-inner and outer (use the masking tape on these).

Good news is no exhaust or gas smell.( I still have the Trans oil smell from my speedo cable issue though).

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I was told the BD(from their customer service) that they don't use precision. Then again-she wouldn't tell me who made their kits. I don't have any experience with the BD weatherstrip except fron t windshield weatherstrip and it looked like a nice piece.

I just ordered and received Black Dragon kit today. MSA has more pieces for the $, but they look identical to me. They did not come in Precision package, but they appear to be the same kit that MSA sells.:)

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I just ordered and received Black Dragon kit today. MSA has more pieces for the $, but they look identical to me. They did not come in Precision package, but they appear to be the same kit that MSA sells.:)

So the BD kit has fewer pieces but does the same job as the MSA kit?

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The MSA kit I bought and my body shop used ended up with extra pieces they didn't use. Some were for the 280z on the label and seems to be a one size fits all. I too have trouble closing the door and hatch. Search for Hyundai and you should find a lot of info. Also, try the dealers. They still have some original stuff. Good luck.

carl

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I checked everywhere today (except for Nissan OEM) and ended up buying the BD kit because I couldn't find it anywhere else. Lots of companies advertise the Precision kit but do not stock it. They must drop ship from Precision and Precision is obviously out of them.

I read on zspecialties.com that they make minor modifications to the kit that are required to ensure the doors close properly.

http://www.datsunstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/134/products_id/305

Does anybody know what these modifications are?

John

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I read on zspecialties.com that they make minor modifications to the kit that are required to ensure the doors close properly.

http://www.datsunstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/134/products_id/305

Does anybody know what these modifications are?

John

I hate to reopen an old thread, but I've been curious about this...does anybody know what modifications are done to make the doors close properly?

thanks,

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A while ago, I spoke with the product manager at Precision and he told me that they definitely were re-tooling the molds to make a better fit. Perhaps they run the stock out to make room for the new kit. I would call them and ask, they seem very open to questions. Go to www.prp.com.

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I just installed a right (passenger) door weatherstrip, the one that goes around the body doorframe, from MSA. Made by Precision, it went on in a jiffy and fit perfectly, only had to trim about 7 inches. T'was a snap to install, and the door closes just fine.

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I was told by msa that the plant that makes the kits for them burned down along with the molds. I just got the BD kit but havent installed it yet. Let us know how it works out.

Brian

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I hate to reopen an old thread, but I've been curious about this...does anybody know what modifications are done to make the doors close properly?

thanks,

I never received an answer to this question. Ended up buying the Precision seals. They fit better but the doors still dont shut "easily".

Hoping after sitting for the winter they will compress a little.

John

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JohnnyO,

Thanks for the response.

I went ahead and ordered the weatherstripping kit from MSA. Yesterday I got this reply from MSA:

"We are currently out of stock on the 27 piece weatherstrip kit. It should be about six months before we receive the 27 piece weatherstrip kit in our inventory."

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