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I was hard at work and surfing ebay and found this for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Z-Series-240-Datsun-240z-FRP-Body-Shell-All-Panels-Brand-New-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2306f30b3aQQitemZ150440446778QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_1463wt_925

I am not sure what my feelings are. It would be good for racing but then its not a "real" z car. At least it wouldn't rust. Would this be titled as a datsun or a kit car? Has anyone seen this before? What are everyones thoughts? Just curious.

carl

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Looks pretty sketchy.

Seller has zero feedback, for one.

Also, in the interior rear view, the strut towers look asymmetrical.

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I wonder how much the subframe would set someone back? Also, how safe would it be compared to our not so safe tin cans.

I am pretty sure there was a thread on getting something like this made, in fact the pics look to be of the same car. I wouldnt mind having the main glass shell and throwing my good bits on it, but I am sure it wouldnt drop the price too much.

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If you had a car that was rusting away this would be pretty nice. Wonder how much lighter it is that the Steel tubs on real z's

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That would require a visit and a drive in a completed one...

Titling it-much less importing and insuring it-could be a real issue...Mechanical parts may fit, but interior looks like it would be a challenge to put back in-fiberglass has to have a thicker cross section to have the strength of steel, and that extra bult has to go somewhere...The light coming through the bulk of the firewall tray hints the material is pretty thin there...

Will

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I am guessing you could title this like a kit car and I wouldnt think it would be that big of a problem.

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I am guessing you could title this like a kit car and I wouldnt think it would be that big of a problem.

Most kit cars use a chassis from a donor car-and get titled with the vin on that chassis. Insurance as a road car would be a bear-easy to get by not saying anything about the chassis, but make a claim, and I would bet unless it was registered as experimental, the insurance company would be tough to get anything from.

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An easier answer to registering it would be to use the vin from the donor car donating all of the suspension and drivetrain like the buyers of the Daycorn Bodys for 1969 Camaros do or the Brookville bodies for the 32 Ford but the legality of this brings up many more questions .From what i have seen anything over 25 years old not much matters (with the exception of stolen cars)

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I think Hagerty and Grundy are pretty supportive of kit cars. However, if you tried to pass it off to them or any other company as factory I am sure any claim would be nullified.

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I would think that the rigidity of the car would a problem. When you look at the picture of the front end, it looks like there are only the frame rails with the body panels attached at points not the unibody construction of the original. I would think the front end would be wobbly.

carl

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Kit cars are much tougher to register in some states (N.J. being one of them )I really did not give much thought to insurance ?? What would be the difference of Buying fiberglass hood fenders doors hatch and quarter panels and putting them on a S30 "Tub" ??

Carl our Z cars are exactly 300 vin #s apart I own Hls3000033

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I think it is intended as a shell for a rally car only. As it is, it wouldn't be any good as a road car unless you put a full cage in it to stiffen it. I for one wouldn't want to drive in that without some protection.

Interesting that someone thinks that there is enough of a market to warrant the work on the moulds alone. I wonder how many they'd need to sell to make a profit.

Interesting thread.

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After coming across an Ebay ad, I found this site:

http://www.frpautomotive.com/index.html

It belongs to a UK company offering, among other things, complete fiberglass shells and panels for a 240Z. I'm curious if anyone here has heard of this, or better yet tried it. If the mounting points lined up, it might be fairly easy to transfer parts over. I'd be a little cautious of something that cannot be welded.

Nevertheless, an interesting option for those looking to replace a rusted out or seriously damaged shell. The prices look a little spendy by the time you consider what shipping across the pond would be, but I bet in many cases it would be cheaper than stripping and repairing an original shell.

Hmmm... I wonder what it would cost in carbon fiber?

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Ooops. Sorry for the unnecessary thread. I really should: a) search before starting a thread, and B) pay closer attention to the board. Feel free to delete this thread.

Cheers.

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Thanks for bringing this back to light, I know I would have never found the original thread but do find it very interesting. Have wanted a Z track car but never wanted to risk damaging a real Z

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Check out www.frpautomotive.com

They sell High Quality FRP Body Shells & Panels.

I have owned 10 different 240z's. I am currently trying to finish a 1970 serial # 620 that I started the restoration in 1986. I am also completing a 1972 Datsun 510 Wagon I found on e-bay a couple of years ago.

The site above sells panels and Bumpers

Tom

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This is thread number three on this subject. I'll merge it in with the other two.

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Hi everyone, Craig here from FRP Automotive.

I have enjoyed many of the topics here on the forum as many of your cars are modified in a different way to most of the uk cars.

I am about to start a build on a track 240Z using the composite bodyshell/panels and a new subframe.

Initially I want to keep the mechanicals as stock as possible so I can make a direct comparison between the composite car and the steel car with regard to how it feels and handles on the track. Then further upgrades will happen after that.

This car will be mine, so if it is of any interest I would like to post a build thread.

I am hoping the thread generates enough interest as it would be great to get some feedback and suggestions on various parts of the build.

Feel free to ask anything you like, and thanks in advance.

Cheers

Craig

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We all like a good story. I'd be very interested in following your progress to learn how your shell compares to Nissan's original design.

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Hi all, I have uploaded some pics to your site but to no avail. I hope these work!!

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Seems like they have uploaded:)

Cheers

Craig

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Very nice! Have you completed a car, or is this as far as you have gotten?

It looks pretty true to the original at this point.

Any idea what the weight of a finished car would be?

Marty

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