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Ok, avatar is changed now to a shot I took last year of my "totally rust free 280Z" that I bought on Ebay last year. This is a shot of the hatch the day after I bought it. I guess the P.O. had never opened up the hatch in the time he had owned the car :

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As I said, I've largely stayed out of this situation, so I am not aware of whether other people's reactions to her sexual teasing have been more aggressive or otherwise out of line, but she is 16 and in my opinion shouldn't be allowed to post sexually charged images of herself on classiczcars.com, or anywhere else for that matter. I think this is a PARENT'S issue to deal with, and neither Mike nor the rest of us should need to get involved, but unlike in a face to face confrontation we can't grab her by the arm and take her home and tell her mom and dad what she was doing. As a father with a very young daughter, I can tell you that I won't allow this type of behavior from her when she is 16. It's not about accepting Khrystina for who she is, or being tolerant of women, or anything else. She is a CHILD and children need supervision. It is sadly apparent that this is lacking in her life, at least when it comes to the internet.

I'll not bother to go in depth on the possibility of pedophiles/rapists/etc who like Z's being members here (or them searching online and stumbling into this forum), but I'm sure that the potential is there. That's not to say that we assume everyone online is a sexual predator, but maybe it is smarter that we don't assume that they aren't.

uh HELLO!!

maybe you should read my first post on this thread you will see that MY parents know what I am doing and are completely aware.

I have been making websites and webmastering for over 3 years now, I know the pros and cons and I am well aware of the consequences of whatever behavior I project to the internet.

I DO NOT need to be told that everyone is a potential predator...i've been to the Teen Conventions For Internet Safety (drinking and driving, parent-teen isues and scholarships are also addressed) in the Hyatt in Valencia EVERY year.

and btw, its just pjs,Its not like im naked or showing vast amounts of skin in my pictures.I'd like to see you deal with your daughter when she wants her first thong and wears them. Regardless of how much you think you are going to "control" her.

And you have no right to say what my parents should and should not do.

I-m sure you wouldnt want anyone telling you how to raise your child.

Regarding Dan,

its my car, I'll lay on it if i want to. But i would never be "drapped" over the car. Unlike that photo in the Zcar Women gallery of some chick naked on the Z. I have more respect for the car.

AND if anyone truly has a problem with me, then they should tell me, not the whole forum because I am more than reasonable with holding back on anything you think is inappropriate. But I will hold my stance on the fact that: I am NOT here as a tease,

I am here to have FRIENDS and learn more about my Z.

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Ok, avatar is changed now to a shot I took last year of my "totally rust free 280Z" that I bought on Ebay last year. This is a shot of the hatch the day after I bought it. I guess the P.O. had never opened up the hatch in the time he had owned the car :
I'll use 'Datsun Dog' for a while. I really wish this thread would hurry up and run it's course.
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STEPHEN !!!!!!!

BRING BACK DAISEY MATE, she's much easier on the eyes.

My grandfather taught me to ALWAYS treat a woman like a lady and with all due respect because;

a/ If she IS a lady, she expects it and,

b/ If she's NOT a lady, she might be so grateful that you'll be glad you did.

I agree that this thread should be allowed to fade away.

jmortensen.

Why would you want to invade the girl's family's privacy ??

Surely it's really none of your business ??.

Rick.

:devious::devious:

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This thread really needs to be stopped. Not that it's intent wasn't good but what goes on here goes on an any site to some extent. The mods chime in to get the members to 'ease up' and that works for a while. As they say, people will do what's inspected rather than what's expected. In the meantime, you end up with all of these 'sidebars', like in most other threads. Then we end up talking about those. It just spirals into all of these different things, like who thinks who's wife is hot, who's parents know what their kids are doing, etc. The actual intent gets lost. It was a noble effort by Mike to attempt to quell the perceived problem but it has lost it's direction.

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There's a very simple way of "stopping" a thread.... quit participating. If you are still interested in what others post, then either you WANT to see what they wrote, or you don't want it to end. This was the same basic comment given when the Boob's thread started, if you don't want to see what's posted.... then stay out of the thread, otherwise you WANT to participate, nobody is forcing you to do so.

Whether it's to try to throw in "one last word" or come up with yet another reason for stopping it.... it continues the thread. Having someone close the thread because it's a contentious subject isn't the solution, that just emphasizes that the people participating (and bitching about it IS participation) don't have the self-control to stop participating.

At some point you have to admit that you're not going to win everyone over to your viewpoint, and you're not going to post them out of the topic. Walk away...

After some of the meandering over non-related topics, and chit-chat over non-thread related comments that this thread has seen, it's obvious that the same people that were complaining about Khrystina doing the same are as guilty as they claimed she was. Except, they aren't 16 years old. Should we start clamoring for the thread to be closed because these individuals are posting? Walk away...

Heck, we even have one self appointed moral cop! And over what? Some pictures that he's labeled as "sexually charged images" and then continues with:

I think this is a PARENT'S issue to deal with, and neither Mike nor the rest of us should need to get involved, but unlike in a face to face confrontation we can't grab her by the arm and take her home and tell her mom and dad what she was doing.
followed by the implication that he's going to e-mail her parents. Talk about imposing yourself on others.... do you practice what you preach?

While you guys have been bantering nonsense... yes nonsense, the basic message that has been ignored is that when a female appears on this site she gets accosted with either sexual innuendo, public and direct "love" messages, or harassed over not knowing much. Mike's request was simple... cut it out.

The ladies that come here arrive because they are interested in finding out more about the Z, whether how to repair or where to repair. They need to be encouraged and not chased away.

While Khrystina may have been a bit more flamboyant than most, I can provide various posts as proof that she DID have responses... it takes TWO or more to tango and in this case there were more than half a dozen folks. And as far as being flamboyant... again I can point out several MALE members and other female members who've done the same.

The problem came in when some members chose to "shout" it out, or "post" it out... when the threads wouldn't stop, they elevated their vociferousness and we have this thread as a result.

Closing the thread doesn't do the "club" any good. If you're done with the topic... walk away. If you have something to add, post it but don't antagonize.

E

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Didn't log in for a bit and my how this thread has developed! I'll stop posting to it after this.

Honestly Sblake, I meant no offense regarding your wife as being "hot". I thought that you pulled some celebrity image up and made it an avatar. Only to a close friend would I inform them that their wife was "hot". Even then one has to be careful. :)

Sblake=lucky man

Laters

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I'll stop posting period! I'm not the only one who thought Stephen pulled up some random image adn said she was hot-SHEESH! Lighten up you guys.

In regards to Khrystina, I was just playin with you and your reaction mirrors my original sentiment, just immature little girls and apparently little boys as well! Later everybody I think I'm move on to somewhere else.

Again sorry about the confusion Stephen or unintended offense.

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I am just now posting on this because of the number of post recorded. I only read or post on topics that are about Zs where I can be of help.

Unfortunately the childish banter from teeny boppers have driven many of the knowledgeable Z drivers away. Many have gone to hybridz where they don't put up with his stuff in the first place. Just as soon as a new member is known to be a Female the innuendo comments start. This is immature and ignorant and belong in the junior hi gym.

I like this web site or I wouldn't have hung around so many years. I know Mike personally and how hard he works and the time he spends to constantly improve it. nuf said. Gary

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Guys, please RELAX

My original intent on writing this message was to ask for some help in treating each other with respect. I understand that everyone has an opinion on this subject but the original intent of the request remains unchanged.

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