Jump to content

IGNORED

Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432


kats

Recommended Posts

9 hours ago, zed2 said:

I did not buy the Prince toolbox.

I too am always on the look out for tools, however I concentrate on Standard (non-metric) tools that were originally included with my early Datsun projects.

Keith

Thanks Keith, you have a Patrol ! Does it have a L24 motor ? 
I don’t have any knowledge about Nissan cars before S30 cars , but I remember Nissan engineers said bolts and nuts were mixed up with inches and millimeters. For late 1960’s cars like S30,  they decided to use only millimeters for convenience. By the way, I have read that Nissan rally cars used less variation of sizes of bolts and nuts to minimize number of tools for fast operations. 
 

Chris , I too love hunting tools , wooden handle screw drivers are my favorite one. My recommendation is to get spark plug wrench , that is cool to add your correction.

Kats

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/9/2022 at 10:06 AM, zed2 said:

Kats,

My 1969 Patrol L60 has a 3.956 L pushrod motor.  (The L Series is a "modern" engine, never envisioned by the Patrol designers.) 

081713 002.JPG

081812 003.jpg

Keith

Thanks Keith, what a fascinating engine! I am so impressed , I have never seen it before. In-line 6 cylinder, 4 litter, very big engine. How many still out there ? Maybe very rare I guess.

Kats

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/9/2022 at 7:48 AM, Gav240z said:

Hi Kats,

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/listing/3756694780

Thought you might like to see this. Looks like an HS30 with Blue / Blue paint and interior combination. This is only the second such HS30 I've come across in my years (now) of collecting HS30 data.

Thanks Gavin, HS30 blue on blue is very rare as your observation. How about other color combinations? Green with Tan , white with red , etc . 
Buy the way , my understanding is up to August 1973 , lime yellow, green metallic and brown metallic are only for export market . Is this applicable for HS30 territory?

Grand Prix Maroon is only for Fairlady Z series. Oh , Universal blue ‘903’ was not available for Fairlady Z series .

Kats

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here is a very interesting dashboard, an original one which has been taken off from a Z432-R . Takeuchi san got new one from local Nissan decades ago ( Nissan had PZR dashboards in their parts center until early year 2000 ) .

Takeuchi san said he doesn’t need it , so I have got it .I will repair the two cracks . Or remain as it is for historical exhibitions?
Maybe I want to have it clean. Because I will put some Z432-R parts into my Z432 just for fun . I am not aiming ‘wannabe’ car . I would like to have an ultimate both worlds . Luxury GT and Sunday racing . I respect Z432-R , and my Z432 too . 
 

Maybe this is for the first time to show the details for everyone here , please enjoy.

Kats


 

09A3E519-86A9-44CB-A721-1941CC3668ED.jpeg

9E75125C-7A17-4154-A597-9BAA3CFEEBDC.jpeg

66AF2BE8-7EE9-4061-838E-F9A326C38164.jpeg

5C47EAB1-5EE7-4929-A7FA-68A463B4AA01.jpeg

0DB1F0C2-632F-466D-9F4B-3003CF31E6DE.jpeg

D08A15F3-F1A5-4CA6-8415-6752A22BC25E.jpeg

09C18302-B0CF-4032-B2DF-962020D7E6CA.jpeg

6AB956C2-0D1A-452C-998A-171C9E7D4649.jpeg

299A6F0C-5C9A-4507-A6C6-91128238F03A.jpeg

6AF91061-0915-4302-A815-831D8A95A980.jpeg

D51EBB52-FA4D-4563-9ABB-133BCA0B6DCB.jpeg

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can see ‘ 45  1  16 ‘ in the stamp which is shown back of between the speed meter and the tachometer.

It is 16th January 1970 . Takeuchi san’s Z432-R would have left the factory around March or April 1970 . Wiring harnesses have February and March stamp . So my two US 240Z (HLS30-02146/02156)  were almost brothers ! Or Takeuchi san’s car would have left a lot later because of special limited production, might be taken care of a lot more than regular production cars . 

Kats

03C52B3F-42BE-4D5F-98A0-331E912A50B0.jpeg

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/10/2022 at 11:28 PM, RIP260Z said:

As the subject of tool boxes has been touched on, this is on its way from Japan as we speak... a Nissan tool bag, and the seller put some tools in for free.

 

nissan tool bag.jpg

Nice bag Ian , 80’s feelings !

Kats

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/9/2022 at 3:06 AM, zed2 said:

Kats,

My 1969 Patrol L60 has a 3.956 L pushrod motor.  (The L Series is a "modern" engine, never envisioned by the Patrol designers.) 

081713 002.JPG

081812 003.jpg

Keith

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_P_engine

That's not related to the L series Nissan engine.  The third generation has the 2.8 L series though as an option. Nice Patrol you have there! 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

20 hours ago, bartsscooterservice said:

@katshttps://www.justdashes.com/

These guys restore dashes, i came across it when Jay Leno featured it. Some must have known before, the owner started out with Datsun z dash...

If you can do it yourself offcourse that will save a lot of money 

Hi Bart , yes justdashes is my top list . I have heard recently price $2000 , need to wait a half year . Plus shipping from Japan returning from California will surely be painful. 
 

Someone wants a PZR look dash , send it to them and ask them not to cut out the side vents and the clock , glove box key cylinder. 
 

I want to have it fixed by my hand , it will be fun and yes a lot of money saving . And I want to remain its details as much as possible , every old originals are one and only! 
 

Kats

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/19/2022 at 1:02 PM, kats said:

Hi Bart , yes justdashes is my top list . I have heard recently price $2000 , need to wait a half year . Plus shipping from Japan returning from California will surely be painful. 

Hi @kats,

A place in Australia does the same kind of work and for half the price. 

https://www.dashboarddoctor.com.au/reskinning-and-restoration

For LHD dashboards Hung Vu offers completely new remanufactured dash pads. @theguppies

https://www.instagram.com/vintagedashes/?hl=en

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

That dash is a nice piece,Kats, to compliment your other nice pieces.  I personally think you are on the right track by doing it by hand. The parts that make that dash special are still intact, from what I can tell, and fixing the cracks by hand is imho the primary way you’ll guarantee they stay intact.

Edited by xs10shl
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/18/2022 at 11:02 PM, kats said:

I want to have it fixed by my hand , it will be fun and yes a lot of money saving . And I want to remain its details as much as possible , every old originals are one and only! 

Both options (professional repair vs do-it-yourself) have their good and bad considerations.

The do-it-yourself option requires much attention to detail in order to create a good and lasting result.  There are two or three good threads available on CZCC that will provide you with a list of recommended tools, materials, and procedures.  Based on my own experience, the main limitation is that the final exterior finish -- typically accomplished using texturized 'bed liner' paint -- has 'look' and 'feel' that is different from the original textured vinyl.  Although a casual observer would not notice the difference, a knowledgeable person will see it very quickly.

I found some upholstery vinyl (long sheet with 1m width) that had a texture very close to the original material used by Nissan.  Unfortunately, it was only available with a bonded fabric backing.  Despite the use of a heat gun, it would not stretch enough to follow the contours of the S30 dash surface (those contours become quite extreme around the openings for the instrument pods.  If you can find a suitable vinyl that does not have a fabric backing, you might be able to achieve a successful result.

I look forward to reading about your dash restoration.  There may be materials available to you in Japan that we in North America have not discovered.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and Guidelines. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.