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Hi Blue , 

my 44mm has 34 choke , it is just right for the carb , racing use .

I believe U20 race option was 50mm , one cylinder is approximately 500 cc , so it is suitable, isn’t it ?

Kats

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Hi I found old pictures , those were in 2009 . Not clean like those pictures anymore today.  But I have been enjoying so much , no-regret for what I have been doing to my cars.

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I visited a classic car shop yesterday , there is a Dec 1969 PS30-00062 . I felt this car is a good original car , a lot of original parts . 
 

I immediately noticed the welding finishing touch of the radiator support upper L & R corner , this is what I call and love  “ hand crafted “ which is rarely seen in our mass produced S30 . 
 

How many things can we list “ hand crafted “ treatment parts in our cars ? I would say the interior roof center trim piece for room lamp could be the one , my 03/1970 has two cut away for the defroster wires which would looked “ hand crafted “ cut away . 

I guess my blue trim was made in early days and not ready to be considered as a car which have a defroster glass . Nissan would just make them a little too many blue trims .

My blue tail gate interior trim too , the pieces for the vent system is different from later vented one , those pieces can only be seen on an early trim in black . Blue and Tan could be interesting as parts to be used early parts into a bit later cars .
 

How about yours ?

Kats

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2 hours ago, kats said:

Hi I found old pictures , those were in 2009 . Not clean like those pictures anymore today.  But I have been enjoying so much , no-regret for what I have been doing to my cars.

I wish there was a way to preserve the look of freshly yellow cadmium plated parts. But I wouldn't regret using your cars either.

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I immediately noticed the welding finishing touch of the radiator support upper L & R corner , this is what I call and love  “ hand crafted “ which is rarely seen in our mass produced S30 . 

I noticed these on HS30 00150 too! I thought it meant the car had been repaired before. So this is good to see and know about as being "normal".

The car has been in a nudge on the passenger side, but not enough to disturb the radiator support. The driver side is still as OEM as new.

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Hi , I did some work recently. Checking the inside of the passing light switch of my Z432 and 240ZG , they both keeps good condition.

And I did an amateur job for the seat reclining mechanism cover which belongs to my elder Captain Shigekura, they were so badly missing tabs . Don’t look closely, I regret I didn’t took much more time for perfection, but Mr. Shigekura said it is OK about the results.

His 240ZG has been kept clean , original condition. He just replaced the seat upholstery and carpet which were done by the master , Mr. Sudo . With using  the original materials  Mr. Sudo customized them to give a little more stiffness ordered by Mr. Shigekura. 

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Hi , I let my treasure go to the other Fairlady 240ZG , it is an optional item which was available for the L-series engined car in Japan . 
The dual exhaust system for the L-series engine is one of the rarest part to obtain nowadays. Maybe back in the old days too , most of people even don’t know what it is .

The front and center tubes “ 20010-E8730 “ is the one , this was made specifically for the L-series standard exhaust manifold to bolt on . I imagine so few people chose this set up when people going to have sporty “ dual exhaust systems “ back in 70’s and 80’s . I think this is not so sportier than the one with the full race exhaust manifold set up .
 

Usually, people have Nissan sports option replica exhaust manifold with the Z432 genuine center and tail pipes or , after market  set up for their cars .

Please see the pictures, they are all genuine Nissan exhaust systems. The ones the left is designed for the L-series standard exhaust manifold, the ones on the right is for the L-series engine with the genuine Nissan race option exhaust manifold with genuine Z432 center and tail pipes set up . 

Everybody who has S30 series car can attach this “ 20010-E8730” on his car .

Kats

 

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The Z432 tail tube and the standard exhaust manifold  are now ready for a new paint .

The 20010-E8730 is a NOS , but need to be painted to much other parts.

Me , sticking with a standard single pipe muffler ! Because my ZG’s tube has 05/72 date code on the tube , I can’t replace it with a new one .

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On 1/18/2020 at 8:04 PM, kats said:

I visited a classic car shop yesterday , there is a Dec 1969 PS30-00062 . I felt this car is a good original car , a lot of original parts . 
 

I immediately noticed the welding finishing touch of the radiator support upper L & R corner , this is what I call and love  “ hand crafted “ which is rarely seen in our mass produced S30 . 
 

How many things can we list “ hand crafted “ treatment parts in our cars ? I would say the interior roof center trim piece for room lamp could be the one , my 03/1970 has two cut away for the defroster wires which would looked “ hand crafted “ cut away . 

I guess my blue trim was made in early days and not ready to be considered as a car which have a defroster glass . Nissan would just make them a little too many blue trims .

My blue tail gate interior trim too , the pieces for the vent system is different from later vented one , those pieces can only be seen on an early trim in black . Blue and Tan could be interesting as parts to be used early parts into a bit later cars .
 

How about yours ?

Kats

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Hi Kats. How much are they asking for the Dec 1969 PS30-00062 car? Thanks!

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Hi Brad , good question ! I wasn’t told the price nor I asked about it . Because I feel I should not ask (I can not explain well) at that moment. 
Maybe the price is just below 3000 0000JPY , still cheaper than the green BAT car ?

BTW , here is another good Z432 ,

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very attractive original Sunshine yellow , nice interior . Very hard to obtain the Z432 horn  pad and the earliest 8 track stereo are in place and they are so beautiful.

 

Here are some you tube for your interest, I think these video’s Z432 is the one on the sale . The asking price is 3300 0000JPY.(still cheaper than the green BAT car ) .

The man who is doing the tuning is the legendary tuner Mr. Kubo . 

 

 

Kats
 

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My HLS30U cars . Please note the original dash has the motifs of the bonnet sleek line on the gage clusters .Beautiful , is not it ?

Kats

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On 2/23/2020 at 6:18 PM, bartsscooterservice said:

 

I saw a green 432 there

Hi , the green Z432 was ( still is ? ) for sale at 2150 0000 JPY when I heard about it .  Lack of some original parts , and need to have proper size tires for stock appearances .

Kats 

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Normally I don’t like to do this , but let’s try how many things you can tell the differences from the originals . I just want people to know more about Z432 , and try to give some tips for someone who owns this fantastic car .
To begin with, look at this picture very carefully, this car is mid 1970 Z432 .

I noticed the shift boot is not correct for this car . Anything else?

Kats

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Correct Blue !! Anything else ?

How about the map lamp trim ?

And , does anyone feel something uneasy about the steering wheel ?

Kats

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Looks like a hooded map light, early ones are flat.

The oil pressure and coolant temp gauges look like later style ones. Early ones had different ranges and a delimiter in the middle. Later ones had no center delimiter.

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What about ashtray lid, early ones had a longer handle. I can't tell for sure but this looks like a later style lid.

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Thanks Gavin , you’re correct , gauges must be replaced at some point in its life .

About the ash tray , yes it has a small handle which is molded in ONE PIECE of the lid , early one is a separate piece from the lid .

But I am looking for the answer when it changed. 
 

Do you see the steering wheel is not for the Japanese domestic model ? Fairlady Z series has much shorter spokes  for the steering wheel , maybe design team consider average Japanese people have short leg , then positioned much forward than the westerners. So the steering wheel must be flat with the horn pad . 
And horn pad itself has a trumpet,  that is from the summer of 1973 ,  the Japanese regulation required all cars must have the trumpet mark on the horn  pad . 
 

Also the dash board is later type , and the ignition key looks later type .

Here is my 01/1970 Z432 , you will see the difference of the steering wheel.

Kats

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Thanks Kats, I knew about the home market steering wheels being shallower than the export market cars. I agree it was likely for leg room. But I couldn't really tell in the photos. :).

I didn't know about the horn button changes. I knew that there was "blue" (non 432 engined S30Z's) and "red" which this car had, but I didn't know about the horn icon. As you know our export market cars just had "DATSUN" on them.

I couldn't see the keys property, buy my early 240z (HS30-00150) has a "garage" position on the ignition switch. Still not sure what that does? Do you know?

What is the difference between early and later dashboards in the home market? I know North American cars had the hazard switch moved about, but AU market cars didn't come with hazards and the dashboard is basically the same from 1970-73.

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On 2/23/2020 at 8:18 PM, bartsscooterservice said:

I saw a green 432 there

Ha, I've been watching his channel because of his Skyline content. A fellow Australian :).

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On 4/14/2017 at 11:26 AM, kats said:

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Gav240z, your 240Z has an unique holder, same as the picture and Z432 too. I think this holder was shared with SP/SR roadstar, was not it?

In this picture, we see the wheel was for a SP/SR roadster because it has cap teeth ! 

For Z432 , if owner chose 5 magnesium wheels , the spare tire holder was chosen this (like a tap of fire pump) , shape of the center hub can not

accept a dish holder which is used for a steel wheel. Some owner chose a steel wheel for the spare tire, to reduce price.

My elder sister PS30-00087 has the tap holder, but slightly different from mine. The yellow Z432 is PS30-00013,my Z432 has same tap as 00013 (I added  a rubber sheet  I do not want to scrach  center hub) . And my blue 1970 240Z.

Kats

 

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